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GUILTY! - Trump Verdict is In- LIVE UPDATES - With JBB

  
By:  JBB  •  Politics  •  2 weeks ago  •  83 comments

GUILTY! - Trump Verdict is In- LIVE UPDATES - With JBB
"No Man Is Above The Law" - JBB

Jury deliberation has begun in Trump's NYC Criminal Fraud Trial. Stay tuned for updates. Will Trump soon be a convicted felon?

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Professor Principal
1  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

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Professor Principal
2  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Trump cannot leave the courthouse while the jury deliberates...

Will there be a verdict today? Will Trump sleep in a holding cell?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago
Will there be a verdict today? Will Trump sleep in a holding cell?

Do the vast majority of Americans care?  Will a guilty or innocent verdict change anyone's mind as to if they will vote for him?  Will an innocent verdict make more independents vote for him?  Will a guilty verdict make Biden look better to people?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    2 weeks ago
Will a guilty or innocent verdict change anyone's mind as to if they will vote for him?

a criminal convicted of fraud should be representing today's GOP...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
a criminal convicted of fraud should be representing today's GOP...

Gee, that was expected

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.3  author  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

I expect Thirty Four Felonies, with four years for each...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

Prepare to be disappointed

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

Hate to be the one to break it to you but your expectations are impossible since even if he is found guilty on all counts and he is sentenced to jail and loses appeals his sentences will be concurrent

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.6  author  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

Maybe, and maybe not...

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.7  Snuffy  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

Isn't that for the judge to decide if they run concurrently or serially? But I do believe that New York law actually has a cap so the max Trump could get would be 20 years. I'm not sure how that would all turn out as I find it difficult to see an ex-president being sentenced to prison for this. And the uproar over election interference on this would be huge regardless of prison or home confinement. 

But I still just don't see how the prosecution proved it's case so while a guilt verdict is definitely possible due to where the trial is taking place I still think a hung jury is more likely. We shall see, in just a matter of days.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2  devangelical  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago

the jurors will probably drag it out over a catered lunch, even after getting a guilty verdict on the first ballot...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.1  author  JBB  replied to  devangelical @2.2    2 weeks ago

I expect they will move pretty quickly now...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Don't believe without verification whatever bullshit is posted on the web simply because it fits your narrative.

Fact check:  Yes, the jury must come to a unanimous verdict

As the jury begins its deliberations, claims are spreading across social media that Judge Merchan told the panel they don’t need a unanimous verdict to convict Trump.

That’s false.

To convict Trump, Merchan told the jury they will have to find unanimously — that is, all 12 jurors must agree — that the former president created a fraudulent entry in his company’s records or caused someone else to do so, and that he did so with the intent of committing or concealing another crime.

What’s being distorted by some online is the judge’s instruction about how to reach a verdict about that second element.

Prosecutors say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of a New York election law making it illegal for two or more conspirators “to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”

Merchan gave the jurors   three possible “unlawful means” : falsifying other business records, breaking the Federal Election Campaign Act or submitting false information on a tax return.

For a conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don’t have to agree unanimously which it was.

And do not fret, a unanimous verdict is a high bar. Takes only one juror to derail a conviction.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Do you ever post anything that isn't from the extreme right wing? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

What Really Worries Me About a Potential Guilty Verdict (townhall.com)

From the article.....

"McCarthy explains how hardcore partisan Alvin Bragg and his fellow Democrat, Judge Merchan, teamed up to rig the game:

"Ordinarily,   falsifying business records is a misdemeanor under New York penal law. The statute that enhances the offense into a felony requires proof of fraudulent intent to conceal “another crime.” ...[The indictment] put the defense on no notice of what “other crime” Trump was alleged to have concealed ...Bragg knew it would be controversial to proclaim in clear terms the power and intention to enforce federal law — against a defendant whom the federal agencies with authority to prosecute investigated and as to whom they decided, for sound legal reasons, not to bring charges . The failure to provide a defendant with notice of the charges in the indictment violates the federal Constitution — and it strongly suggests that the grand jury did not find probable cause of the other crimes that Bragg now alleges   (there is no “other crime” pled in the indictment). On this point,   Merchan has aided and abetted Bragg, to the point that it was not until summation, after six weeks of trial, that state prosecutors were finally clear and full-throated in urging that Trump should be convicted for violating federal law. That would be astounding in any case but is mind-boggling in the first-ever criminal prosecution of a former American president  (who, not coincidentally, is the Republican presidential nominee and thus Bragg’s partisan political adversary). Without being limited to the charges in the indictment, as prosecutors are supposed to be, they presented the case to the jury as if the charge were   conspiracy to influence the 2016 election by burying politically damaging information . To say that this conspiracy appears nowhere in the indictment does not explain the half of it.   It is not a crime to conspire to influence an election   unless one does so by unlawful means (that’s the afore-described New York misdemeanor), and   there is nothing unlawful per se about burying politically damaging information."

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.5    2 weeks ago

Why are you not upset with the actions of Judge Cannon?

Rhetorical.  We all know.

Anyway, I recommend you stop believing whatever heavily biased sources like Townhall declare and focus on what has actually taken place.  For example, disregard the interpretations of sources and read the instructions yourself.

As far as the law and verdict, this trial was formally conducted with professional attorneys making their competing cases with evidence and witnesses under the control of a professional judge.   The jury will decide.   That is it.   What they say (until overturned, if ever) becomes the legal truth in this matter.

You can put forth preemptory excuses just like Trump does all you wish.   It does not matter.   In fact, it is ridiculous.   

Trump has a good chance for a hung jury;  one juror can accomplish that.    But if they return a unanimous verdict, then that is the best our system offers.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.7  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.5    2 weeks ago

You need to wake up about your beloved townhall, Greg.

Detailed Report

Questionable Reasoning:   Conspiracy, Propaganda, Numerous Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating:   RIGHT
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Country:   USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank:   MOSTLY FREE
Media Type:   Website
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History

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TownHall.com features commentary by various conservative columnists and guest commentary by politicians.  Weekly contributors include Ben Shapiro, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Marina Medvin, John Stossel, Dennis Prager, and others. Guest contributors have included Eric Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Lara Trump. The current editor is Jonathan Garthwaite.

Read our profile on the United States government and media.

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Townhall is owned by   Salem Media Group , which owns numerous right-leaning Christian-based radio stations across the USA. According to   Open Secrets , Salem Media Group   donates   100% to Republicans and right-leaning PACS. Online advertising generates revenue for Townhall.

Analysis / Bias

In review, Townhall almost exclusively publishes news articles that favor conservatives and utilizes strongly loaded language such as this:   Shove It, House Democrats: Another Trump-Russia Story Blows Up . This story is sourced from the left-leaning   Axios   and right-leaning   Fox News . In another article with loaded language, by Rush Limbaugh’s brother David:  Abortion Extremism Exposing Left’s Moral Contradictions,  there is not a single source listed to support Mr. Limbaugh’s claims.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.2.8  Gsquared  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

Hey, any publication that features Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and Dennis Prager is all right.  Oops, I meant lunatic fringe far right.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.8    2 weeks ago

I see the usual suspects dissing the sources as usual when they can't dispute the facts contained therein.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.10  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

The trial is the mechanism for adjudication.   All legal questions are addressed by the trial process.   You posting opinions from third parties is totally irrelevant.  

What matters is the evidence, the arguments, the proper trial process, and the decision of the jury.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.2.11  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

I see the usual suspects dissing the sources as usual when they can't dispute the facts contained therein.

That's because you posted no facts, Greg! 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.2.12  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

Coulter, Malkin and Prager are NOT sources of anything other than reactionary propaganda.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3  Just Jim NC TttH    2 weeks ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3    2 weeks ago

MAGA surely are sore losers...

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.1    2 weeks ago
MAGA surely are sore losers..

That's hilarious coming from somebody how has cried about Trump for the past 8 years.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

I think the only thing it does is reset and he becomes a human roomba wandering aimlessly.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

That's hilarious coming from somebody how has cried about Trump for the past 8 years.

Hard not to when he puts himself in the news every fucking day like a petulant child. Trump is a blatant attention whore. He puts himself out there so much, he makes himself an easy target because he's a pathetic cunt. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Well, at least he doesn't have drugs shooing out of his nose. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

Whereas Biden's seems to have lost its effects? Or perhaps it just kicked in thus the loss of thought?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.6    2 weeks ago

Whereas Biden's seems to have lost its effects?

That was weak.... 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.7    2 weeks ago

As was yours. There was no evidence of anything "crushed up". Looks like and overload of snot to me.

But The Fix's own editor, Rebecca Sinderbrand, has another idea: Sniffling is a tic Trump does when he's on stage. We at The Fix watch a lot of Trump rallies, and Sinderbrand has noticed that Trump often sniffs into the microphone at events:

For those asking: sure, Trump could have allergies. But the sniffing is also a thing he does sometimes during big speeches...

— Rebecca Sinderbrand (@sinderbrand)   September 27, 2016
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.8    2 weeks ago
Looks like and overload of snot to me.

pearl white snot, ok Jim, you go with that... LOL 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.9    2 weeks ago

LOL where do you see pearl white? Look at his face and hair. Hair is almost white and and the orange isn't very dark. Could it be the lighting? Who knows? I don't think you nor the X poster does either.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
Hard not to when he puts himself in the news every fucking day like a petulant child.

Then stop acting like some star struck child waiting with bated breath for any and every mention.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Court is adjourned for lunch, and then jury deliberations...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

Merchan's instructions for the jury were not normal and further add to the confusion.

Legal Experts: The Trump Trial Jury Instructions Are Not Normal (townhall.com)

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Greg Jones @5    2 weeks ago

Merchan's improper conduct just keeps getting more and more attention. It's doubtful anyone will be fooled by this rigged Soviet style trial and it's even more doubtful it will change a single vote. If there is a conviction, it would become a national scandal of Merchan tries to jail Trump.

Evidence Shows the 'Random' Judge in the Trump Trial Has Major Conflicts of Interest (townhall.com)

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5.2  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5    2 weeks ago

see @2.2.3

Further, just apply common sense.   A judge is not going to make absurd violations of jurisprudence that would enable a successful appeal.   

 
 
 
evilone
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5.2.1  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @5.2    2 weeks ago
A judge is not going to make absurd violations of jurisprudence that would enable a successful appeal.   

An absurd violation in such a high profile case would be used as grounds to have him removed from the bench. I read the instructions online during my lunch today. They were not unusual, or biased at all. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @5.2    2 weeks ago
judge is not going to make absurd violations of jurisprudence that would enable a successful appeal.   

Of course they will and do. Appellate Courts are very busy. 

And most judges don't have a career as a pundit on MSNBC, a book etc.. in their future if he can bring home a conviction.   The idea that this is an ordinary case with ordinary implications for the non-party participants is absurd. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.2    2 weeks ago
Of course they will and do

Normal functioning judges will not make brain-dead, blatantly stupid decisions that would virtually guarantee a successful appeal.    Especially in an extremely high-profile case such as this one.

Yet another absurd 'argument' trying to defend Trump.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    2 weeks ago
Normal functioning judges will not make brain-dead, blatantly stupid decisions that would virtually guarantee a successful appeal

He's a county level trial judge appointed for his politics.  Even Federal court trial judge make dumb decisions that get unanimously overturned all the time.  Of course a county justice will do stupid things that result in appeals. It happens every day.  

The incentive for Merchan is to get  a guilty verdict.  It takes a special kind of willful blindness to ignore that.  Whether it's overturned on appeal on is irrelevant to both him and the County, which would almost certainly not retry the case as a new trial would take place after the election. 

That progressives pretend this is business as usual in a County that doesn't bother to prosecute many physical assaults is what is absurd.  It has no credibility except among those who think trump is a criminal and therefore must be guilty of something.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    2 weeks ago

According to Trump supporters the deck is always stacked against him. According to them Trump never does anything wrong, its all the "haters".  

These people wouldnt know truth if it slapped them in the face. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
5.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    2 weeks ago
He's a county level trial judge appointed for his politics. 

Good grief, Sean, get a grip.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    2 weeks ago

OMG, is he mentored by Judge Aileen Cannon? Are they related? 

Shades of mediocracy in black robes. 

Has Trump attacked his ethnicity or place of birth? Is he one of not the best they sent us.  He may be a commie or a drug runner on the side.

Let's have David Pecker buy and bury this information. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.2.8  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.6    2 weeks ago

They're desperate to blame anyone else besides Trump for creating his own problems.

 
 
 
George
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6  George    2 weeks ago

The easiest way to tell if the fix was in? check the streets when the verdict is going to be announced, we all know the low information progressives get stupid violent when things don't go their way, if NY's finest aren't out in force you know the verdict will be guilty, because if trump is acquitted the animals may burn the city down.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @6    2 weeks ago

nice  hallucination

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6.1.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    2 weeks ago

An accurate observation, sorry if it hurts.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
6.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    2 weeks ago

It’s funny that they think “the fix” is only if Trump loses.  He’s got enough influence with the new Idiocracy that the fix could very well be on his side.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.2    2 weeks ago

It takes only one delusional Trump supporter to hang the jury.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

MAGA are rare in NYC. So, a conviction should be well done!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6.1.5  George  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

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Right Down the Center
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6.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    2 weeks ago
It takes only one delusional Trump supporter to hang the jury.

It could also take at least one independent critical thinker that believes the prosecution did not eliminate all reasonable doubt.

 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
7  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

Well we can be sure of two things. 

Even if the jury is hung, the defendant isn't. 

Not one lawyer on the defense is getting paid. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
7.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  MrFrost @7    2 weeks ago

If enough morons vote for Trump he will probably hang his attorneys in the public square, even if the fix is in and he wins this case.  That’s what dictators do.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

How long does it take to deliberate 34 verdicts?

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.1  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @8    2 weeks ago

In this case, approximately 2 days.

 
 
 
JBB
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9  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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10  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
 Mother Teresa never led a presidential campaign in the United States. She couldn't run for the office herself, as a native of Albania, and she showed no interest in supporting somebody else's run. She never even considered, for instance, violating
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N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-152 : Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Under that statute, “Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.”

(Yes, if you commit a misdemeanor in furtherance of a misdemeanor, that can be a felony.)

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This is something Trump indubitably did, first in his 2015 agreement with publisher David Pecker, as established in  Pecker's testimony  in the ongoing trial—

In testimony this week during Trump’s trial in New York City, the former CEO of the National Enquirer’s former parent company explained in stunning detail how he agreed to act as “eyes and ears” for Trump’s campaign, purchasing the rights to stories in order to suppress them, and even outright fabricating negative stories about Trump’s opponents.

—and later in the catch-'n'-kill discussion over the article proposed by Playmate Karen McDougal.

The  connection  in these events between Crime 1 (conspiracy) and Crime 2 (falsification) is just too obvious to ignore. The felony was created by the two crimes interacting.

Mother Teresa, problematic as she might be, has nothing whatever to do with it. She is invoked simply as an example of virtue whose existence, somehow, demonstrated that Trump shouldn’t be tried for his crimes. and there’s really no reason to think that.

 
 
 
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JBB
Professor Principal
16  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Hot Damn! The jury has reached a verdict which is being read...

Stay tuned!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
17  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

We are still waiting on the verdict!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
18  TᵢG    2 weeks ago

Jury reached a verdict.   Hard to imagine how this could be not guilty.   I saw this case going to guilty or hung jury.

We shall see soon.

 
 
 
devangelical
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18.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @18    2 weeks ago

trump is now reflecting on all the shit he's said about the judge and his daughter. an ambulance is standing by ...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
19  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Guilty!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
20  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Guilty on all. Ounts!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
21  Just Jim NC TttH    2 weeks ago

Here comes the appeals................

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
21.1  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @21    2 weeks ago

And now Trump will be campaigning on it. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
21.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  George @21.1    2 weeks ago

Trump cannot even vote for himself now! Can he?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
21.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @21.1.1    2 weeks ago

He can vote. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
21.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @21.1.2    2 weeks ago

From what I read, a convicted felon residing in Florida must complete his/her sentence before they can vote.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
21.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @21.1.3    2 weeks ago

It defers back to the state the crime took place in.  Because the trial took place in New York , NY laws will prevail even in Florida. NY allows felons to vote as long as they are not in prison. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
21.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @21.1.4    2 weeks ago

Does he not have to serve his sentence first?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
21.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @21.1.5    2 weeks ago

Evidently not.  There were very clear about this on TV.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
22  author  JBB    2 weeks ago

Trump is a felon, times thirty four!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
23  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

Did anyone notice the huge crowd of Trump cultists protesting outside the courthouse after the verdict?

No?  Neither did I.