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Is Tesla cooked?

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  2 weeks ago  •  30 comments

By:   Andrew J. Hawkins

Is Tesla cooked?



With Elon Musk in DC, Tesla has slumped. Sales are down, stock is down, and the future looks even tougher.

How can the EV maker get back on track?


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Does Elon care? I mean... what's the difference between having two hundred billion dollars, and having three hundred billion dollars?

I'm pretty sure I couldn't tell the difference. Could you?

There are links in the seed.




S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


original The CEO is absent, the stocks are plummeting, and the brand is toxic. Tesla's future looks grim.

Tesla stock plunged 15 percent on Monday, its steepest drop in five years. The price is down over 50 percent since its December highs. Tesla owners, disgusted with Elon Musk's slash-and-burn tactics for the Trump administration, are selling their vehicles at a big loss. And Tesla showrooms across the country are becoming magnets for large crowds of protesters who want to see the company fail spectacularly.

But at least Musk can still count on one guy to have his back.

"I'm going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk, a truly great American," President Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social on Monday. "Why should he be punished for putting his tremendous skills to work in order to help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN???"

But it will probably take more than a Cybertruck in the presidential motorcade to make Tesla great again. It will take an actual commitment to more affordable electric vehicles. It will take a more serious and safer approach to driverless cars. And it may take a change of leadership to get the company back on track. Let's run down the company's problems.

Sales slump


Trump's election last year sent Tesla's stock price soaring, as investors rewarded Musk for making the right political bet. It hit a record high of $488 in mid-December; by early March, it had sunk to roughly $226.

The wipeout erased over $800 billion in market value, Tesla's steepest drop in years. Musk's own net worth took an over $100 billion hit. (But don't worry: he's still the richest man in the world.)

What happened? Setting Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) side quest and the resulting protests aside for a moment, the simplest explanation is that Tesla's sales suck. The company produced 4 percent fewer cars in 2024 than it did the previous year. And its deliveries were essentially flat. Tesla earnings came in light, even with a Bitcoin boost.

Musk's own net worth took an over $100 billion hit.

In California, Tesla's biggest market in the US, its sales dropped almost 8 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024 and 12 percent for the year. Coastal elites' love affair with the brand has soured.

And it's not just in the US. In February, Tesla's sales were down 10 percent in Spain, 42 percent in Sweden, 45 percent in France, 48 percent in Norway and Denmark, 53 percent in Portugal, 55 percent in Italy, and a whopping 76 percent in Germany. Musk's endorsement may have helped Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party place second in the recent election, but it doesn't seem to have improved his company's flagging sales in Europe — down 45 percent in January year over year.

In China, the world's largest car market, Tesla is on a sustained losing streak. The company has been backsliding for the past five consecutive months on a year-on-year basis, according to data from the country's Passenger Car Association. Some of this is likely related to a temporary factory suspension to accommodate the new Model Y Juniper assembly line, but rising competition from domestic automakers like BYD is putting increased pressure on Tesla.

And unlike BYD, Tesla doesn't sell any hybrid or gas-powered vehicles. It has nothing to fall back on when consumers feel anxious about the future of electric vehicles.

An aging lineup


A frequent criticism you see about Tesla is that the company's vehicle lineup is getting a little long in the tooth. The Model X turns 10 this year, while the Model S is pushing 15. Both vehicles have only received minor updates since their initial launch. (A Tesla executive promised a refresh later this year.)

The Model 3 and Model Y, which represent the bulk of the company's automotive revenues, were both updated recently, but the lag in regular updates has opened a window of opportunity for Tesla's competitors. Consumers interested in plug-in power suddenly have a wealth of choices as newer, more interesting EVs from Hyundai, Kia, Honda, and General Motors hit the market.

Meanwhile, Tesla's only new model to be introduced in the last five years is the Cybertruck, which has been recalled seven times since its launch. Musk has said that frequent software updates obviate the need for a more regular cadence of model refreshes.

While Tesla sales dropped, sales of non-Tesla EVs continued to climb. Americans bought a record 1.3 million electric cars, an increase of 7.3 percent year over year, according to Cox Automotive's Kelley Blue Book. EVs now claim 8.1 percent of the market in the US.

Americans aren't souring on electric vehicles — they're just over Tesla.

No affordable models


For years, Musk has been promising to make an affordable electric vehicle, likely priced at $25,000. He first mentioned it in a 2018 interview, saying, "A $25,000 car, that's something we can do." Then, in 2020, at the company's first Battery Day event, he speculated that Tesla could eventually produce upward of 20 million of these vehicles in a year — or roughly twice the current production of Toyota, GM, or Volkswagen.

Musk has said the more affordable EV would be built on the company's next-generation vehicle platform. But rather than prioritize a vehicle that investors took to calling the "Model 2," he spent Tesla's resources on the expensive, polarizing Cybertruck. And after some initial excitement, the truck has turned into a flop. Musk predicted that Tesla would eventually sell 500,000 Cybertrucks a year. Last year, the company only sold an estimated 40,000.

Americans aren't souring on electric vehicles — they're just over Tesla.

Musk has also actively gummed up the works for a cheaper Tesla vehicle. Last year, he reportedly canceled the company's plans to build a low-cost electric vehicle in favor of going all in on a robotaxi. But after some pushback, he claimed that a cheaper Tesla was back on the menu — only now, the vehicles are expected to be built on the same platform as the Model 3 and Model Y. Now, investors are worried that this new vehicle will cannibalize Model 3 and Model Y sales rather than boost the company's profits overall.

Meanwhile, Kia and Volkswagen have announced plans to actually produce affordable EVs. And China has cracked the code on budget-priced, highly affordable EVs. The BYD Seagull, for example, was the country's bestselling vehicle last summer, with about 190 miles of range and a sticker price of around $10,000. Even with a 100 percent tariff, the Seagull would still sell for a price much cheaper than most US-made EVs.

Robotaxi blues


Of course, Musk doesn't think Tesla even needs a $25,000 vehicle. The company's future is in AI — specifically self-driving cars and humanoid robots. In October 2024, he undercut his company's own guidance to make "affordable models" by commenting, "I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless. It would be silly. It would be completely at odds with what we believe."

Musk now believes that Tesla is on the verge of solving autonomy. He's claimed that fully autonomous vehicles are right around the corner for almost a decade now. "Optimus has the potential to be north of $10 trillion in revenue," he said during the most recent earnings call, referring to Tesla's humanoid robots.

"I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless."

But while Musk bloviates about robots, Waymo and others are operating real driverless cars on the road. The Alphabet-owned company just launched its first partnership with Uber in Austin, Texas — Tesla's headquarters and the city where Musk has said he plans on launching his own robotaxi project this summer.

There's little evidence that Tesla is on the cusp of delivering what Waymo has already done. The promise that all Tesla vehicles built after 2016 have the hardware necessary for full self-driving turned out to be totally false. Musk said the company would replace the onboard computers for vehicle owners who bought the FSD package, a process he admitted would be "painful." Tesla has already been targeted with a class action lawsuit claiming the company lied about the capabilities of its vehicles.

The Elon of it all


And then there's Elon. And DOGE. And the fascist salute. And the chainsaw. And everything else going on behind those dark sunglasses.

Musk's antics have turned the Tesla brand toxic. Disillusioned owners are selling their vehicles at big losses. Others are swapping in badges from other vehicle brands or using desperate-sounding stickers to signal their dissatisfaction with the billionaire CEO.

And even more are protesting outside Tesla showrooms as part of a grassroots effort to oppose Musk's takeover of the federal government, damage the company's stock price, and maybe even slash the world's richest man's net worth.

Separately, there have been a growing number of reports of arson and vandalism at the company's stores. Tesla charging stations have been set on fire. A showroom in Oregon was shot up. A woman was arrested in Colorado for throwing a Molotov cocktail at a Tesla location. Tesla vehicles have been defaced with swastikas and expletives. Four Cybertrucks were destroyed in a fire in Seattle. The rage is real.

Keep in mind, Tesla's sales were already dropping before all these incidents occurred. The growing dissatisfaction has led some analysts to predict even more dire numbers for the company's first quarter results this spring.

What's next?


It's unclear what can turn the company's fortunes around. Some supporters have started to openly question whether Tesla can continue to survive with Musk at the helm. But shareholders aren't likely to jettison the controversial CEO yet, especially after voting to approve his multibillion-dollar pay package last summer. The outcome was a huge vote of confidence in Musk's leadership — and a big validator of his behavior.

But that was pre-DOGE, before the salute, and before the stock wipeout. Tesla's board is clearly feeling the pinch. Chair Robyn Denholm and director James Murdoch (son of Rupert Murdoch) both sold millions of dollars' worth of shares in the past month.

A lot rests on Musk's promises of a cheaper Tesla, a next-generation vehicle platform, and an actual working robotaxi service. President Trump can buy all the Teslas he wants, but if Tesla's future is built on a bunch of falsehoods and fantasies, it's unlikely the company can emerge from this fire unscathed.

Andrew J. Hawkinsis transportation editor with 10+ years of experience who covers EVs, public transportation, and aviation. His work has appeared in The New York Daily News and City & State.


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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    2 weeks ago

I've never even ridden in a Tesla. From what I've read, they have never been outstanding as far as quality is concerned. They sold because socially conscious ("woke") people wanted to be ecologically decent, and therefore to go electric. Tesla was the only serious game in town.

Now there are lots of (better and cheaper) EVs on the market. And socially conscious ("woke") people are seeing Tesla very, very differently.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2  Freefaller    2 weeks ago

I know with people going around damaging and destroying them for some sort of statement I wouldn't want to own one (not that I ever did want one)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Nobody else makes electric cars as good as Tesla.  Right now, Musk is suffering for the volunteer work he is doing. Despite the cowardly leftist committing acts of vandalism, Tesla will survive.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    2 weeks ago
Nobody else makes electric cars as good as Tesla.

That is not true.

[] Stellantis (in Europe) and Renault make cars that are as good, and somewhat less expensive. The Germans (BMW, Mercedes) make cars that are as expensive... but they're better. Volvos (dunno if you count them as European or Chinese) are better than Teslas, for about the same prices. And then there are the Chinese, who make cars at all price points and all quality levels... but their balance of price and quality is the best in the world.[]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1    one week ago

Why is this a CoC violation?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.1    one week ago

Because Vic said so

I will take that taunting ticket gladly

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.3  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.2    one week ago

Ah! Now I understand.

Thanks for the explanation...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    one week ago
Nobody else makes electric cars as good as Tesla.

No one else makes electric car fires as good as Tesla.

EVs make up 1% of the vehicles on the road.

EVs make up20% of all car fires which can burn for days.

In 2023, 35 Tesla car fires resulted and 80 deaths in the last 10 years.

Tesla will survive.

The same way that Ford survived the Pinto, that GM survived the Vega and VW survived cheating the EPA; change, adapt, pay out in court, advertise the populace into thinking the product is the best ever for anyone willing to swallow their sales propaganda, and get back to selling cars for profit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    one week ago
EVs make up20% of all car fires which can burn for days.

That's because they have lithium batteries, isn't it?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.2.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.1    one week ago

That was true five years ago. Today, ICE cars burn more often percentage-wise than EVs. Firefighters now know how to handle a burning EV.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.2.2    one week ago

Source?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    one week ago

Source please.............thanks

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.2.5  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.4    one week ago

I'm not wasting my time anymore. If you care, Google it. Duh.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.2.5    one week ago

You should still have it right in hand. C'mon, do as you wish others to.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.2.7  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.6    one week ago
C'mon, do as you wish others to.

I haven't asked for a source for a very long time. It's pointless. Either someone is motivated to do the research or they are not. Either they will search honestly or they won't. I no longer give a fuck.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.2.7    one week ago

You made the claim, you back it up. That's how it works in a place like this.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.2.9  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.8    one week ago
That's how it works in a place like this.

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Split Personality
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3.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.8    one week ago

Not exactly but this took longer to capture and repost than find, please note the stock has lost 32.39% in the last month...not soaring.

original

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

1. Trumps stunt today at the White House was illegal.

2. Trump hates electric cars and is on record saying so. 

3. Musk gives him tens of millions of dollars.

4. The other car makers are now saying "what the fuck". 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

"What the fuck??" seems quite appropriate.  jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one week ago
1. Trumps stunt today at the White House was illegal.

Impeach him

2. Trump hates electric cars and is on record saying so. 

Impeach him after you impeach him for #1

3. Musk gives him tens of millions of dollars.

Arrest him

4. The other car makers are now saying "what the fuck". 

Because they didn't get enough money to help them the last time they were going to go belly up.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5  Trout Giggles    one week ago

Somebody at work has a Tesla and the license plate reads "Tethla". Cracks me up. Kudos to that person for mocking their own car

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6  Just Jim NC TttH    one week ago

Tesla will be just fine...............

Tesla Stock Is Soaring. The Trump Bump Won’t Last.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6    one week ago

If Musk Denounced Trump the left would be lining up to buy Teslas.  Such a fickle group.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @6.1    one week ago

Not the red ones. They will still burn those because Trump bought one.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.2  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6    one week ago

A 7% rise in 24 hours isn't soaring when the stock still lost 33.62% in the last month.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @6.2    one week ago

I didn't write the headline.............

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.1    one week ago
I didn't write the headline...

No, but you threw it out there as a counter to this seed about Tesla tanking clearly intending to push back on the idea that Tesla is in financial trouble. It lost 33.62% and then went up by 7% and the MAGAites cling to stories that make it seem like the losers are still winning. It's what they do best.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.2    one week ago

Exactly.

 
 
 
freepress
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7  freepress    one week ago

He really doesn't care, he will blame the protests. Or he can walk away and sell it to China his "buddy".

 
 

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