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A child dies of measles in West Texas outbreak

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  perrie-halpern  •  3 weeks ago  •  109 comments

By:   Erika Edwards

A child dies of measles in West Texas outbreak
A school-age child has died of measles in West Texas, the first death from the disease in a decade in the United States.

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/ Updated By Erika Edwards

A school-age child has died of measles in West Texas, the first death from the disease in a decade in the United States. The child had not been vaccinated against measles, according to the city of Lubbock's health department.

The death, confirmed by Katherine Wells, the Lubbock health department's director of public health, is part of a fast-moving outbreak that's infected at least 124 people — mostly children — in rural West Texas.

The official tally of people who have been hospitalized is 18, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services.

That number isn't up to date, said Dr. Lara Johnson, a pediatrician and the chief medical officer at Covenant Children's Hospital in Lubbock.

Johnson said in an email that her team has cared for "around 20" kids with measles so far.

250226-measles-mb-1441-d21e24.jpg A health worker administers a measles test at a mobile testing site in Seminole, Texas, on Friday.Julio Cortez / AP

All of those kids, she said, were admitted because they were having trouble breathing. None had been vaccinated against measles.

The outbreak has been limited so far to parts of Texas bordering New Mexico. That state has also reported nine measles cases, but officials have not said whether they are connected.

This is the first measles death to be reported in the U.S. since 2015, when a Washington woman died. Health officials at the time said she'd likely been exposed at a clinic in a rural part of the state that was experiencing an outbreak.

Measles was considered eliminated in the U.S. in 2000 because of widespread use of the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine (MMR), according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Two doses of the shot are 97% effective in preventing the disease.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  Just Jim NC TttH    3 weeks ago

Texas, New Mexico and California................I see a trend here..................wonder what they have in common?......./S

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

Don't they all share a border with Mexico?  jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago
Don't they all share a border with Mexico?

Oh my God that's hilarious! So clever! /s

Do you understand how disease works? It has nothing to do with proximity to Mexico.

I personally have been vaccinated against Measles. A thousand people could come from Mexico or any place else - all infected with measles - and walk through my yard. I still wouldn't get measles because I have been vaccinated.

Unfortunately, there are - in AMERICA - quite a few AMERICAN CITIZENS who don't get their children vaccinated. Why?

I think some are probably just too fucking lazy to drag their kid to the doctor.

Others want to vaccinate their kids but may not be able to afford medical costs because Republicans in Congress hate the idea of helping poor people get medical care, even though they loooove the idea of giving subsidies to billionaires and corporations.

Others have been listening to professional dumbasses like RFK Jr who have been telling them that vaccines cause autism or some other malady.

So it's not people coming from Mexico who are to blame for the spread of measles. It's all the unvaccinated Americans who should either know better or have better access to basic medical care.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

rwnj's have been blaming undocumented immigrants for drugs and diseases for over a century. it usually starts right after the crops are all in ...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

Don't they all share a border with Mexico?  

No they share a border with moron anti-vaxers. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Do you understand how disease works? It has nothing to do with proximity to Mexico.

Exactly.

I had measles before I was old enough to be vaccinated.  I lived in West Virginia at the time.  Geography isn't my strong suit, but I don't think WV shares a border with Mexico.

I remember a spring back in the 90s when the WV high school state championship games for some spring sports were canceled because of a measles outbreak in Wheeling.  Again, nothing to do with Mexico.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
No they share a border with moron anti-vaxers. 

... truth. I literally laughed out loud when I read that ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

I got measles and chicken pox in the early 60's the old fashioned way, my mom sent my siblings and me down the street to the house whose kids already had the malady du jour, along with all the other neighborhood kids. for some reason I seem to remember that there were 2 types of measles back then, regular and severe.

 
 
 
shona1
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1.1.7  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Arvo...there were two types here... ordinary measles and German measles..I copped the German ones numerous times..

I also got chicken pox as a kid ...and have copped two lots of bloody shingles..which I have now been vaccinated against..

The last lot put me in hospital for 10 days and that's 4 years ago...I still have problems with the area they broke out on..

So if you have had chicken pox I strongly urge anyone to get vaccinated.. shingles is the pits..

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.8  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

yeah, I thought so, thanks for remembering those measles facts. I reckon it's the german measles that are raging thru the goober thumpers, seeing as how there's a nazi fan boy in the white house now.

I've had shingles twice, but since I only had 1 chicken pox on my body when I was a kid, it was only a burning rash the size of my thumb on my left forearm. I can't even imagine the discomfort of a full blown shingles rash.

 
 
 
shona1
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1.1.9  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

Yep shingles is a shocker..

Had it on my left side of my head from the top down to my ear, then it started towards my eye but the medication stopped it etc..

It still burns and itches 4 years down the track..

Paid $540 for the vaccine best money I have ever spent...4 months later the government brought it in that it was now free...glad no one else has to go through it unless they enjoy pain..

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.1.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

You're not supposed to make those kinds of connections.  It insinuates that the previous administration and its "Border Czar" was actually a failure.  And that makes some people cry.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2    3 weeks ago
"Border Czar" was actually a failure. 

So it's mexico's fault that people in the US don't get their kids vaccinated? Seems like a bit of a stretch if ya ask me. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

well, the problems certainly can't be blamed on any white xtians, no matter what side of the border ... /s

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
So it's mexico's

If I meant Mexico, I would have said Mexico.  I referenced the failures the Democrats gaslit you all into believing were viable candidates.  Please try to keep up.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

Here in SE NM, we are starting to see more illnesses than we've seen in YEARS and, being 32 miles from El Paso, we expect to see more.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  1stwarrior @1.3    3 weeks ago

Count on it..............

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @1.3    3 weeks ago
As of Tuesday, 124 people were known to be infected, according to the   Texas Department of State Health Services , including   18 of whom had been hospitalized . In abutting New Mexico, state health officials suspect their measles outbreak, with nine people identified, is connected to the Texas cases.

Texas health officials announced   Monday that more people were likely exposured to the virus after a contagious Gaines County resident traveled to several locations   in and around San Antonio , nearly 400 miles away. The person visited two public universities, tourist attractions around San Antonio's famed River Walk, and a Buc-ee's along Texas' Interstate 35, among other locations, officials warned.

Texas measles outbreak: Spread in low vaccination rural America

These Mennonites don't care about anyone outside their community; they are going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell, it doesn't really matter about their own ethnicity.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.2    3 weeks ago

that part of texas is ripe with religious wacko compounds ...

the mennonite wackos in western colorado have a stranglehold on the construction industry by abusing child labor and subcontractor laws.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.4.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4    3 weeks ago

About 91 percent of Texas children born in 2020 - betcha they include just children born of U.S. citizens considering the age ranges of the disease parameters.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  1stwarrior @1.4.1    3 weeks ago
betcha they include just children born of U.S. citizens

They're not. 

And the idea that this is an illegal alien thing doesn't work in a dozen ways.

The overwhelming number of illegal kids are vaccinated.  It's free at clinics everywhere with no immigration questions (as it should be, for very obvious reasons).   It's also required for public school.

They didn't walk their happy asses through cartel infested jungle all the way from Guatemala only to say "there is a free shot that will keep my child from getting a terrible disease that's common back home?... No... I'll have none of that."  This is literally one of the key reasons they came here in the first place.

Let's also don't ignore the fact that showing up at the county hospital with a disease none of the locals get because they've all had their shots is a very easy way to attract lots of attention and get deported back to whatever shithole they came from.

Finally, after you've walked all that way, are you really going to stop in Seminole County, Texas, like you've finally arrived at the land of milk and honey that looks very much like the shithole you left with an added Wal Mart??    Of course not.  Less than 10% of Seminole county is foreign born.  18% of Dallas County is foreign born, and we don't have a measles issue.  

This is all about religion.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.3  Split Personality  replied to  Jack_TX @1.4.2    3 weeks ago

Gaines county is only 86% vaccinated, well below the herd threshold ( 93% ? )

it's all about the Mennonites.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.4.4  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.4.3    3 weeks ago

... religious freedom, y'all ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.4.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.4.4    3 weeks ago

Sure. Until somebody's freedom impinges on my family's health. I don't have grandchildren yet, but I know my daughter will get them their shots. But what if one of them has an autoimmune disease that makes getting vaccines iffy or a big NO. Then they will be subjected to the Mommies who didn't vaccine their kids because of their "religious freedom"

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.4.6  Split Personality  replied to  devangelical @1.4.4    3 weeks ago

Yep, including Bibles in OK classrooms, no Torah or Korans, though; and many conservative Texans have a god given hard on to approve a school voucher system for private religious schools....well, because.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.4.7  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @1.4.6    3 weeks ago

there's no limit to the unconstitutional and unamerican activities they will partake, just to own the libs ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago

Keep wondering.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.6  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    3 weeks ago
Texas, New Mexico and California................I see a trend here..................wonder what they have in common?......./S

They all have an increasing number of polio cases. (If you're not familiar with that, here's an article that describes what's going on there)

And, perhaps (just a wild guess), but I have a hunch that they all have significant groups of people who aren't vaccinated.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2  devangelical    3 weeks ago

oh no, a measles outbreak in an anti-vax religious cult in bufu texas. whoever will they blame it on this time?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @2    3 weeks ago

Most of them were probably unvaxxed when their parents illegally crossed the border

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    3 weeks ago

they look a bit pale to be undocumented immigrants, and it's in the part of texas where geezus rules the am/fm airwaves.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Where did you see pictures? Ya didn't .  There weren't any in the article. I suspect just another weak assed work in for the virtue signaling crowd

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

gee, go figure. I get my information on stories that interest me from more than 1 news outlet ...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Well, go figure. Show us the photos from your "other sources" then since you brought it up. You know. Back up your bullshit.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    3 weeks ago
Most of them were probably unvaxxed when their parents illegally crossed the border

You mean the illegals that democrats are fighting so hard to protect?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

look it up for yourself, [removed][]

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.1.6    3 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @2.1.6    3 weeks ago

You made the claim, you back it up. That's how it works. So pony up please or admit you were just trying to start a fire with bullshit for kindling. Thanks.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.9  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.8    3 weeks ago
So pony up please or admit you were just trying to start a fire with bullshit for kindling.

Comment 1 is still smoldering. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

They have interviewed the Moms on Fox news, they were white home schoolers who refused the vaccines.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

Who are/were Mennonites who started arriving from Mexico in 1977.  Not all were/are legal aliens.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.8    3 weeks ago
You made the claim, you back it up.

I don’t see you demanding proof from all the people here pointing the finger at Mexico or migrants.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.13  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.11    3 weeks ago

Mexican Mennonites arrived from Canada 100 years ago after leaving Russia and Germany.

Mennonites bought 100,000 hectares for 600,000 pesos (8.25 dollars per acre) and started a colony near Ciudad Cuauhtemoc, west of Chihuahua city.  The group’s spartan lifestyle is reflected in their conservative dress habits and the fact that their villages ( campos ) are numbered, rather than named.  The people are taller than the average Mexican, speak German, and have northern European physical features. Today, about 50,000 Mennonites live in the Ciudad Cuauhtemoc area. They also founded colonies at Patos, in northern Durango state, and near Saltillo in Coahuila. Today, there are also several Mennonite villages far to the south, in Campeche.
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Mennonite cheese (queso menonita)

The landscapes of Mennonite areas in northern Mexico are very distinctive. They transformed desolate areas of semi-arid scrubland into prosperous farms.

The cultural geography of Mennonite enclaves in Mexico – Geo-Mexico, the geography of Mexico

Yes, they are legal Mexicans, but ethnically Dutch speaking Caucasians from northern Europe and extremely law abiding no matter where they reside, whether it's Kulpsville PA., Columbus OH, Ontario Canada or Mexico.

They are known to be fastidious about obeying the law.  While some are old school, more closely related to the Amish Old Ways, many are modern embracing a certain amount of electricity.  In my youth in PA they used to paint their cars entirely black; everything except the lights and windows while still dressing like the Amish.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

Many really don't know the impact the Mennonites have had on many areas.  Your comment sent me to the "what/where/who" gig - and, tell you what - I was/am surprised.

Thanks Split for providing that.

 
 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    3 weeks ago
Most of them were probably unvaxxed when their parents illegally crossed the border

I can only refer you to my comments at 2.1.13 and 2.1.15.

They are certainly unvaxxed Americans.  The rest of your comment is assumption and wrong.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.17  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.5    3 weeks ago
You mean the illegals that democrats are fighting so hard to protect?

I can only refer you to my comments at 2.1.13 and 2.1.15.

They are certainly unvaxxed Americans.  The rest of your comment is assumption and wrong.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.18  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.17    3 weeks ago

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    3 weeks ago

Most of them were probably unvaxxed when their parents illegally crossed the border

Um, no... 

According to the statistics from the  World Health Organization (WHO) , no cases of  diphtheria measles polio  or  yellow fever  were reported in Mexico in 2019. However,  mumps  and  pertussis  cases are on the rise in Mexico, with 8009 and 874 children reportedly having contracted mumps and pertussis respectively in 2019. There was an increase in  tetanus  cases from a total of 23 in 2018 to 35 in 2019. [ 1 ]

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.1.20  sandy-2021492  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

Mennonites around here tend to live fairly modern lives.  Some of the nurses on the L&D floor when I had my son were Mennonite.  They were certainly comfortable with education for women, modern medicine, etc.  The only way I could tell the difference was that they wore long scrub skirts and kapps.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.21  JBB  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.20    3 weeks ago

The Mennonite communities in Oklahoma range from horse and buggy primitives in pioneer clothing to the high rollers with college degrees, private jets, alligator boots and million dollar combines.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.22  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.20    3 weeks ago

They do love those Kapps

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @2.1.18    3 weeks ago

You don't know close to the truth that is...nah...you do know

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.17    3 weeks ago

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Split Personality
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2.1.25  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.24    3 weeks ago

I offered you facts about American and Mexican Anabaptist attitudes towards the law and vaccines and their similarities to the Amish.

I am not and have never been interested in your biases or "trick" questions.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.25    3 weeks ago

4 days now and you couldn't, and still haven't answered my question. [deleted][]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @2    3 weeks ago

Some one already has. First comment

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  devangelical @2    3 weeks ago

Biden obviously, and when that fails, Obama. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.3    3 weeks ago

they have to keep the answers very simple for the maga base ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

It's 2025. The MMR vax has been around for 60 years. Children dying of measles should not happen

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 weeks ago

Interesting history 'bout this little medical issue -

Prevention actually began long time ago in various pockets of the world ('bout 200 BCE) with Cotton Mathers and Edward Jenner as pioneers in the U.S. in the early 1700's.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 weeks ago

A lot of the negative hype about vaccines, particularly from Hollywood and MAGA, came from the popular yet false correlation of the  increased diagnosis of hyper activity and the autistic spectrum. My Mom was a State Reading Specialist for Nixon's newly formed Department of Education who worked with multiple school districts to improve reading scores. She participated in the very best continuing adult professional continuing education available including summer courses at Harvard and other top universities to stay on top of the curve. What the entire educational establishment DID NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND YET in the 70s and 80s about "The Spectrum" still makes her sad. Vaccines Did Not Cause An Increase In Autism. Professional educators have only fairly recently begun to understand those things, but the underlying issue haven't changed in either severity or truly increasing incidence. Kids with suffering in varying degrees from the autism spectrum were always there, they were just undiagnosed, misunderstood and left behind...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.2    3 weeks ago
Kids with suffering in varying degrees from the autism spectrum were always there, they were just undiagnosed, misunderstood and left behind...

exactly

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.2.2  charger 383  replied to  JBB @3.2    3 weeks ago

Agree

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.3  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @3.2.2    3 weeks ago

Another thing is, parents used to not want their child labeled as "Disabled" in any way. But now, a diagnosis of autism can earn a family thousands of dollars disability income. This has led to parents basically demanding that their children be diagnosed with any and all possible kinds disabilities, for the $...

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.2.4  charger 383  replied to  JBB @3.2.3    3 weeks ago

A very good point and this skews the statistics that some use to blame vaccines for autism.   

Years ago, sometimes parents hid or sent away children that had problems.   

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.5  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @3.2.4    3 weeks ago

"Foster Parents" are infamous among doctors for demanding a disability diagnosis for every child under their care, because their stipend per child can be twice as much as for the non-disabled.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.2.6  Kavika   replied to  JBB @3.2.5    3 weeks ago

South Dakota is the perfect example.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @3.2.3    3 weeks ago
But now, a diagnosis of autism can earn a family thousands of dollars disability income. This has led to parents basically demanding that their children be diagnosed with any and all possible kinds disabilities, for the $...

This is so true. I can remember taking my kids to gym classes when they were little, about 10 or 15 years ago, and overhearing moms (already better off than me) who were actually excited that their kids were on the spectrum somewhere. They’d be advising each other about who to talk to about getting diagnosed by the right people, getting the best coaches and money, and so on. They really sounded pumped about it.

The thing is, one of my kids is on the spectrum (barely) and it has always been serious business for me. She’s a straight A college student now with a boyfriend, but social life is a little awkward for her. She deals, though. We all do. I just never thought of her as some kind of avenue to new entitlements. Maybe I should have, but I’m just not wired that way.

And, by the way, I could see it in her before she was ever vaccinated for anything.

It really strikes us a genetic thing. My father in law was a little bit like that, but it’s not the kind of thing anyone ever diagnosed in him. It’s just something we recognize in retrospect. And then, my oldest kid has a son who is very autistic. It’s nothing anybody did to them, though. It’s just who they are.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.8  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @3.2.7    3 weeks ago

Some of the smartest people I know are on the spectrum.

I suspect a few of my family are undiagnosed Asperger's...

Among us cousins we all call it, "Ass Burner's Syndrome".

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    3 weeks ago

This appears to have started in an isolated community of Mennonites in Gaines County and has spread into New Mexico. Fortunately an 'easy' target is available. /S

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Hallux @4    3 weeks ago
Fortunately an 'easy' target is available.

Which easy target is that?  Illegal immigrants or MAGA?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1    3 weeks ago

migrants

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

That's who they want to blame but I believe those Mennonites are not migrants

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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4.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

The tight-knit Mennonite community in Gaines County , , , settled in West Texas from Mexico in 1977. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.4  Jack_TX  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.3    3 weeks ago
settled in West Texas from Mexico in 1977

So we're talking about 2nd generation Americans, at least.  Probably 3rd.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5  Bob Nelson    3 weeks ago

I think this is really wonderful moment for America to put an end to all these vaccinations. What have they ever accomplished, after all??

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    3 weeks ago

When's the last time you had polio or measles or smallpox or diphtheria or etc..?????

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1    3 weeks ago

My sister had polio... before Salk. Does that count?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    3 weeks ago

Well...my kids never got measles or the mumps. I did.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2    3 weeks ago

As did I, but, unlike you, I was born before the vaccines were available.

I do remember the sugar cubes though :-)

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  1stwarrior @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

I got measles AND chicken pox as a kid and WAS vaccinated according to the laws at the time.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

You must be younger than me. I didn't get the MMR until I was 6 in 1968. I got the measles when I was a baby and the mumps when I was 4

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.2.4  charger 383  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2    3 weeks ago

I got all the shots and got the measles in 3rd or 4th grade, in the summer so I did not get to stay home from school for 2 weeks like some kids

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.3    3 weeks ago
it usually starts right after the crops are all in ...

No older. In '61, it was strictly a measles vaccine and I had to get it in order to start school. I got the measles (disease) in fourth grade as well as CP

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  charger 383 @5.2.4    3 weeks ago

That sucks. When I got Scarlet Fever I was out about 2 weeks...in the spring.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.5    3 weeks ago

That vaccine must not have been very effective back then. Well, now you have double or maybe even triple protection if you went thru basic training.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.7    3 weeks ago
That vaccine must not have been very effective back then. Well, now you have double or maybe even triple protection if you went thru basic training

Many people think that a vaccine is meant to totally prevent a person from getting a disease. But IIRC, I believe in many cases they are designed to keep you from from getting the disease-- but in some cases while they don't prevent everyone from getting the diesease, what happens is that if some vaccinated people do get the diesease...its in a much milder form.

 
 
 
freepress
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6  freepress    3 weeks ago

Sad beyond belief that people are so ignorant as to the harm measles can cause. 

This kind of preventable tragedy will repeat over and over since Trump appointed RFK who's the biggest anti-vax crusader. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7  Hal A. Lujah    3 weeks ago

When asked about it, Trump snapped “what’s the big deal, it’s one measly kid.”

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    3 weeks ago

now that trump has successfully divided the country with previous pandemic propaganda in his last term, americans now get to witness the incompetence of a trump administration, with an anti-vaxer running the dept, managing a known contagious disease with a vaccine that's already been developed ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  devangelical @7.1    3 weeks ago

If and when this gets completely out of control it will obviously be Biden’s fault.  Or Obama maybe.  Maybe Hillary.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

... the deep state.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    3 weeks ago

One kid of hundreds has died in TX

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.2    3 weeks ago

IMNAAHO, that's one too many.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

It sure is

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.2.2    3 weeks ago

I truly feel sorry for any kids born into a family with thumpers for parents ...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7.2.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.2.2    3 weeks ago
It sure is

Ok, so honest question... what would we do about that?  Do we just round up the kids and forcibly inject them, violating their families' religious beliefs?

I'm all for kids getting vaccinated, but I'm not sure how we do that when their parents won't allow it.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.2.5  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @7.2.4    3 weeks ago

Start by blaming the dumbasses who refuse to vaccinate their lousy kids and quit blaming immigrants unless you want to stop international travel, business and tourism instead!

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Jack_TX @7.2.4    3 weeks ago
I'm all for kids getting vaccinated, but I'm not sure how we do that when their parents won't allow it.

... a couple more mismanaged pandemics should fix that problem.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @7.2.5    3 weeks ago
Start by blaming the dumbasses who refuse to vaccinate their lousy kids and quit blaming immigrants unless you want to stop international travel, business and tourism instead!

How does that accomplish anything more than making you feel better?

Do you imagine Mennonite parents give a shit what non-believers blame them for?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.2.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jack_TX @7.2.7    3 weeks ago

Do you imagine Mennonite parents give a shit what non-believers blame them for?

Once again, religion poisons everything.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.2.8    3 weeks ago

the leading killer of mankind since the dawn of time ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.3  Krishna  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    3 weeks ago
one measly kid.”

Pun intended?

 
 
 
shona1
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8  shona1    3 weeks ago

Well I guess that family will spend a life time now thinking....what if..

Feel sad for the child they put at risk and they have now paid the ultimate price...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @8    3 weeks ago

... the holy rollers here usually have big enough litters that one or two gone missing doesn't hinder the next religious holiday much.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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9  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

Let Sall Pox out and see how quickly these fucking idiots change their tune. 

 
 

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