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The accidental e-mail

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  4 weeks ago  •  89 comments

The accidental e-mail
“Retired Rear Admiral Kirby’s comments are appalling, but sadly not surprising,” McCaul said in a statement. “The Biden-Harris administration has consistently disregarded our veterans, servicemembers, and Gold Star families over their botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.”

A strange thing happened to America's favorite storyteller AKA: White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby. He is after all a very busy man. It seems that a Fox News reporter asking about comments from four veterans blasting Kirby for “trying to cover” for the Harris-Biden administration’s botched exit from Afghanistan. Kirby most likely intended to send a message on the inquiry to White House staffers, but inadvertently hit the “reply all” on an email chain that included the Fox News reporter making the inquiry. We all know how devastating it can be to give oneself away to a legitimate reporter.

What did Kirby say in the e-mail?

Here it is:

“Obviously no use in responding. A ‘handful’ of vets indeed and all of one stripe.” 

There it is by Kirby's own hand. There is no disgruntled, fired employee making the claim. It is Kirby the great explainer telling us all how he really feels about veterans.

"House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said he was unsurprised but appalled by Kirby’s comments.

“Retired Rear Admiral Kirby’s comments are appalling, but sadly not surprising,” McCaul said in a statement. “The Biden-Harris administration has consistently disregarded our veterans, servicemembers, and Gold Star families over their botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.”

John Kirby slammed over accidental email to reporter that there’s ‘no use in responding’ to veteran concerns over Afghanistan withdrawal  (nypost.com)


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago


Good morning.

Today congress will hear more from the acting secret service director.

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JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago
What did Kirby say in the e-mail?

Here it is:

“Obviously no use in responding. A ‘handful’ of vets indeed and all of one stripe.” 

Thats it?  Is this a joke.?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

Nope, the condescending disrespect for vets is sadly real.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    4 weeks ago

So four guys attack Kirby over Afghanistan and he says  its just four guys of a certain stripe.  

Where is the scandal or even the controversy in this ?  Its ridiculous. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    4 weeks ago

True, the former 'president' convicted felon and rapist and traitor disrespects veterans and pisses on their graves especially with that photo-op campaign stop at Arlington. 

He cares nothing for the Veterans and their honorable service.  He uses them as props.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    4 weeks ago

You want a scandal?  Trump appears to be taking advice from a racist fruitcake, Laura Loomer, who flew with him on his plane to the debate, and the next morning went with him to the 9-11 commemoration ceremonies at Ground Zero. 

Laura Loomer is a 9-11 "truther".  In other words 9-11 conspiracy monger. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

They attacked Joe Biden over Afghanistan.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    4 weeks ago

www.rawstory.com   /laura-loomer-trump-2669183779/

'She's a lunatic!': GOP insiders call for 'wake up moment' as Trump embraces MAGA 'kook'

Brad Reed 2-2 minutes   9/12/2024


Laura Loomer, a right-wing activist who has earned the rare distinction of being a MAGA supporter too extreme for   Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) , has increasingly become a member of former President Donald Trump's inner circle.

A pair of   CNN   panelists on Thursday sounded the alarm about the fact that   Trump   has embraced someone like Loomer, who is notorious for pushing conspiracy theories and racism in her social media posts that are too much for even a one-time QAnon believer like Greene to stomach.

Former George W. Bush spokesman Pete Seat, for one, did not mince any words when host John Berman asked him for his opinion of Loomer.

"She's a lunatic," he said. "I don't think anyone should pay any attention to anything she says, and it is troubling that the Republican nominee... holds her in such high regard. And the reason is because she feeds his worst impulses. That's what he wants: He feeds off of that type of rhetoric and those types of conspiracy theories."


Former Republican strategist Ana Navarro found it remarkable that Trump is even letting Loomer fly on his campaign plane with him.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    4 weeks ago

The House Foreign Affairs Committee report is  a 350-page  indictment of President Biden’s choices at every point, a portrait of a Commander in Chief “determined to withdraw.” A litany of military advisers counseled that the Afghan government would collapse if the U.S. removed the small complement of 2,500 troops in country.

Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, who ran U.S. Central Command at the time, told the committee “he was unequivocal in his advice to the president.” Mr. Biden’s national security adviser Jake Sullivan conducted a review of U.S. policy in Afghanistan—and allowed Gen. Austin Scott Miller, the senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan, to attend merely “a single NSC deputies meeting,” the report says. Mr. Sullivan comes in for particular criticism.

The Long Shadow of Biden’s Afghan Withdrawal Debacle - WSJ

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    4 weeks ago

As is usual, Biden's failures will get blamed on Trump.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.7    4 weeks ago

A recent survey shows that independents aren't buying it.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

Really weak sauce.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    4 weeks ago

No one of value gives a damn about Loomer. Another failed deflection attempt.

It's way more than four veterans, probably thousands and thousands who feel this way.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    4 weeks ago

Veterans come in all shapes and sizes, they can swear and spit at each other and disagree with each other over everything from MWRAPS to the Phillies' pitching rotation.

And if threatened they will close ranks in a heartbeat because they are Americans first and foremost.

Disagreement is not disrespect.

trolling for attention is disrespectful.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.10    4 weeks ago
No one of value gives a damn about Loomer.

Trump does.   He is of no value then, right? 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

vets that support a traitor to the republic like trump can fuck off for all I care...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.2    4 weeks ago

Agreed - that undoes any honorable service as far as I'm concerned.  I can think of a few (some alleged) service members who dishonor their service by supporting a traitor.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @2.2    4 weeks ago

When did you serve?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

and lying about Walz's honorable service

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.2    4 weeks ago
When did you serve?

I didn't. in the early 70's I didn't think holding an assault rifle around nixonites held much of a future for me.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @2.2.4    4 weeks ago

Too bad, the military can instill discipline in young, impressionable minds.

Or at least teach who the enemy is.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.2.4    4 weeks ago
in the early 70's I didn't think holding an assault rifle around nixonites held much of a future for me.

Richard Nixon was a liberal Republican who got elected because America was fed up with protests and radicals. I have no idea why someone would be thinking about an assault rifle.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.5    4 weeks ago

too bad they stopped taking enlistees without a high school diploma, huh?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

High school diplomas aren't much of an issue as so many schools hand them out as attendance awards.  The biggest challenge (pun)is obesity.  31% of otherwise eligible young adults are obese, a greater number are overweight.  As fitness entry stands are lowered, basic training will be for:

The Few, The Fat and The Fatigued.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.5    4 weeks ago
Too bad, the military can instill discipline in young, impressionable minds.

I did 26 years in the military and currently work on a military installation.  I don't see that happening here.  Discipline has drastically dropped.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.2    4 weeks ago
vets that support a traitor to the republic like trump

When was he charged, tried and found guilty of being a traitor?  Or are you talking through feelings?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.2.4    4 weeks ago
When did you serve?
I didn't.

So you are really in no place to tell people what vets think.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.12    4 weeks ago

So the only possible way to know what vets think is to have been one. 

What about reading about them?

Or , uh, being married to one, or a friend of one, or a sibling of one?  and on and on. 

What if i said "the only way to know what atheists think is to be an atheist"  

does that make sense to you? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.14  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.13    4 weeks ago

It is like the same argument some folks use to shut down debate about abortion.

"If you don't have a womb, you have no right to an opinion on abortion"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.13    4 weeks ago
What about reading about them?

I'll trust somebody who's been there over somebody who read about it in a heartbeat.

Or , uh, being married to one, or a friend of one, or a sibling of one?  and on and on. 

They can speak to their experience of being a spouse, friend or child.  Not what the vet actually thinks.  Anything outside of that is pure guesswork.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.15    4 weeks ago

So if you talk to someone every day, you can never know what they think?  No one believes that.

As for reading, there have been thousands of books written about military events and people, many of them by military people themselves. The point of these books is to understand at least part of what military people think. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.16    4 weeks ago
What if i said "the only way to know what atheists think is to b +e an atheist"  

Exactly.  Only an idiot would think they know what somebody else is really thinking.  

No one believes that.

That's your opinion.

As for reading, there have been thousands of books written about military events and people, many of them by military people themselves. The point of these books is to understand at least part of what military people think. 

It may give an idea into what the AUTHOR may have been thinking or thinks.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.6    4 weeks ago

I think Nixon attended church, sometimes that is all that is needed to 'trigger somebody.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.18    4 weeks ago

If you remember Reagan always attended church until he became President. He said he didn't want to endanger the other people in church.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.20  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.19    4 weeks ago

Too many nutjobs out there just determined to get themselves a thumper!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.20    4 weeks ago

Marx would be proud.

He called religion the "opium of the people".

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago
Thats it?  Is this a joke.?

If any Trump official had authored that email, people would have crucified Trump for it.

Most of us acknowledge that fact.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 weeks ago

One of the only things some folks seem to have is false outrage....

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

Retired Rear Admiral Kirby’s comments are appalling, but sadly not surprising

Yep.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Will Democrats have enough fingers for all those dikes?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @4    4 weeks ago

Depends on how they spell it ... /S

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @4.1    4 weeks ago
Depends on how they spell it ... /S

Liberal minded orthographers won't be going Dutch.  They're not known as beneficent hustlers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @4.1    4 weeks ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 weeks ago

The Biden administration shitting on veterans.  It's not like it's anything new.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Question of the day:

Will any Republican ever again agree to an ABC debate?

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Hallux
Professor Principal
6.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    4 weeks ago
Will any Republican ever again agree to an ABC debate?

I'm sure they will give it all due consideration if they are mentally agile enough to put an extra 6 minutes to 'good' use.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @6.1    4 weeks ago

It may not matter. It seems that many people saw right through it.

It is hard to rig a debate without being obvious.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    4 weeks ago
It is hard to rig a debate without being obvious.

It has taken 2-3 days for this nonsense to be formulated thanks to Donnie 'winning' by "70, 80, no 90 points".

I get the feeling Donnie is one of NT's readers and he bought into all the Kamala is an idiot tripe posted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @6.1.2    4 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    4 weeks ago

How appalling

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    4 weeks ago
Oh, let's face it, Kamala hasn't had it so easy since Willie Brown ran out of Viagra.

It's her fault that an idiot showed up to debate her? Meh, misogyny has no brakes and neither should it get a break.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.7  Nerm_L  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.5    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.7    4 weeks ago

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MrFrost
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6.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    4 weeks ago

It is hard to rig a debate without being obvious.

Trump got an extra 5 minutes and STILL fucked it up. Even YOU said Harris won the debate. Deal with it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Right now, Merick Garland is trying to convince the American public that his corrupt DOJ was honest

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The criticism of the department is valid.

Here is example # 1: The current president willfully retained classified documents and wasn't prosecuted because he was cognitively challenged.

So much for an "impartial justice system."

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    4 weeks ago

false equivalency. ... and speaking of cognitively challenged, did you see trump blow the debate and then claim he won?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @7.1    4 weeks ago
false equivalency.

It certainly is not.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.1    4 weeks ago
false equivalency.

For 3 years they went after political opponents, parents and Catholics. They violated their own protocols and used lawfare to interfere in an election.

I do hope Trump wins in November, and I do hope that Garland will be prosecuted.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    4 weeks ago
For 3 years they went after political opponents, parents and Catholics.

I'm Catholic and I dont feel "gone after" at all.   Sadly, there are minority elements among Catholics, such as Steve Bannon , that are far far right and likely prone to catch the attention of the FBI because of their statements and activities. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    4 weeks ago
I'm Catholic and I dont feel "gone after" at all. 

Joe Biden is a Catholic too and I was born a Catholic, but I'm honest:

The  FBI  has come under scrutiny after a leaked document showed the bureau warning that "radical traditionalist" Catholics pose as an extremist threat. 

Kyle Seraphin, a former FBI special agent and federal whistleblower, obtained the document from the bureau's field office in Richmond, Virginia, and published it on the  UncoveredDC  website.

The document is titled "Interest of Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists in Radical-Traditionalist Catholic Ideology Almost Certainly Presents New Mitigation Opportunities."

Also included in the memo was a list of Catholic organizations that are defined as hate groups by civil rights advocates the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). These include the Catholic Apologetics International in Pennsylvania and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Hampshire.

FBI Under Pressure for Targeting Catholics in Leaked Document - Newsweek

Under questioning by a congressional committee, AG Garland said he was horrified when he heard about it. Nobody would have even known had it not been for a whistleblower.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    4 weeks ago
I do hope Trump wins in November, and I do hope that Garland will be prosecuted.

I'm pretty sure if that happens maga will be way too busy to do anything more than basic self preservation.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.1.5    4 weeks ago

How so?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    4 weeks ago
Under questioning by a congressional committee, AG Garland said he was horrified when he heard about it. Nobody would have even known had it not been for a whistleblower.

Notice how that fact is always ignored?

It's like when liberals claimed the IRS did nothing wrong and then having the head of the IRS apologize!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    4 weeks ago

Ignoring key facts is what exposes progressives.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.8    4 weeks ago

Which 'facts' much less 'key facts' might those be?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.9    4 weeks ago

Read post 7.1.4 and 7.1.7

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.6    4 weeks ago

you really don't think christo-fascists and associated vermin will get away with taking any constitutional rights away from women or anyone else without severe consequences, do you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.9    4 weeks ago

In the case under discussion, the FBI regarded traditional Catholics as an extremist threat.

And the FBI has put stock in what a hate organization called "the Southern Poverty Law Center" says.

Any thoughts on those FACTS?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.1.11    4 weeks ago

Garland disagrees:

He said, "It's appalling!"

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @7.1.11    4 weeks ago
you really don't think christo-fascists and associated vermin will get away with taking any constitutional rights away from women or anyone else without severe consequences, do you?

Can you name a Constitutional right taken from any woman, or is this just a case of "Well, they haven't yet, but I know they will"?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.15  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.13    4 weeks ago

like I give a fuck about the oldest international terrorist organization based in the vatican. they are centuries behind in their karma payments to the human race...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @7.1.15    4 weeks ago
the oldest international terrorist organization based in the vatican.

That sounds so credible / s

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.1.15    4 weeks ago

Pope Borgia and his clan were considered the first mafia family by Mario Puzo.  I'm a historian you could say on the mob and their origins.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.13    4 weeks ago

Hawley the traitor is appalling!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.17    4 weeks ago
Pope Borgia and his clan were considered the first mafia family by Mario Puzo.

Lol.  What else did Mario Puzo say?


I'm a historian you could say on the mob and their origins.  

Very good. What really happened to Virginia Hill?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.18    4 weeks ago
Hawley the traitor is appalling!

That is not accurate.

Who was Garland appalled at?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.19    4 weeks ago

I don't know.  He's dead now.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.19    4 weeks ago

Regarding Virginia Hill - do your own homework for a change

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.20    4 weeks ago

An appalling traitor - Hawley.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.24  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.18    4 weeks ago

he's a cowardly thumper POS, along with his born again, college fraternity sperm bank of a wife.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.21    4 weeks ago

or read some of his books - you might learn something

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.17    4 weeks ago

I meant to say in that comment but got distracted - Puzo hadn't seen nothing yet - I think he passed before the former 'president' became 'president'.  Regarding the first crime family that is being as his 'presidency' was a criminal enterprise and he's a wannabe mob boss/thug

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.26    4 weeks ago

Puzo died over 25 YEARS ago.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.12    4 weeks ago

Still waiting

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.29  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.28    4 weeks ago

If you can dispute the facts in his post, why haven't you?

 
 
 
JBB
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7.2  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    4 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @7.2    4 weeks ago

He was last seen with someone named Turley

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