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Misled and directly led

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  54 comments

Misled and directly led
In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Harris was asked about Biden’s statement that he wanted the VP to be “the last voice in the room,” particularly when making big decisions, like he was when he served as vice president under Barack Obama. Harris confirmed that was the case regarding the move to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks. “This is a president who has an extraordinary amount of courage,” Harris said regarding the...


The House just released a damning report showing the lies the Biden administration told to the American people regarding the disgraceful mad dash out of Afghanistan. The 600-page House report calls out the State Department for failing to have an evacuation plan despite clear warning signs that Afghanistan would quickly fall to the Taliban.


Among the long list of lies are the following:

"The report contradicted Joe Biden's claim that his hands were tied to the Doha agreement former President Trump had made with the Taliban establishing a deadline for U.S. withdrawal for the summer of 2021. The report found that Biden and Vice President Harris were advised by top leaders that the Taliban were already in violation of the conditions of the Doha agreement and, therefore, the U.S. was not obligated to leave. 

Then-State Dept. spokesperson Ned Price admitted in testimony the Doha agreement was "immaterial" to Biden’s decision to withdraw.  Acting Under Secretary Carol Perez told the committee the embassy’s evacuation plan was "still in the works" when the Taliban took over, despite months of warning.

It revealed how State Department officials had no plan for getting Americans and allies out while there were still troops there to protect them. 

Nato allies had expressed strong opposition to the withdrawal that Biden demanded.

When Trump left office, some 2,500 U.S. troops remained in Afghanistan. Biden himself was determined to draw that number to zero no matter what, according to Col. Seth Krummrich, chief of staff for Special Operations Command, who told the committee, "The president decided we’re going to leave, and he’s not listening to anybody."

When the last U.S. military flight departed Kabul, around 1,000 Americans were left on the ground, as were more than 90% of SIV-eligible Afghans.

The report found that local embassy employees had been de-prioritized for evacuation, with many turned away from the embassy and airport in tears. On the day of the Taliban takeover, the U.S.’ only guidance for those who might be eligible for evacuation was to "not travel to the airport until you have been informed by email that departure options exist."

And since the NSC did not send over guidelines for who was eligible for evacuation and who to prioritize because they were "at risk," the State Department processed thousands of evacuees with no documentation. 

The U.S. government had "no idea if people being evacuated were threats," one State Department employee told the committee.

In addition to the $7 billion in abandoned U.S. weapons, the Taliban likely gained access to up to $57 million in U.S. funds that were initially given to the Afghan government. 

The Taliban’s interior minister, Sirajuddin Haqqani, proclaimed in February 2024 that relations with the rest of the world, especially the U.S., are "irrelevant" to its policymaking.

A NATO report written by the Defence Education Enhancement Programme found the Taliban was using U.S. military biometric devices and databases to hunt down U.S. Afghan allies.

And in the first six months of Taliban power, "nearly 500 former government officials and members of the Afghan security forces were killed or forcibly disappeared," according to the report. "

House GOP releases scathing report on Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan | Fox News


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It should be noted that some news outlets have added their own editorializing to the news of this report.

The fact is that Joe Biden was hellbent on leaving Afghanistan, ignoring military advice, NATO objections and Afghan pleas. If he listened to anyone it was those lefties who he bowed to.

And he lied to America.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Good morning.

Last night CBS "60 Minutes" provided a well-deserved tribute to members of the Fire Department of New York who lost their lives on 9/11.

In the neighborhoods of New York, there are 217 firehouses. Each holds a memorial to firefighters who answered the call 23 years ago and never returned. As we first told you in 2021, 343 members of the Fire Department of the City of New York perished on 9/11, in the greatest act of gallantry ever bestowed on an American city. This is their story.

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Greg Jones
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Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    one month ago

Any rational human being knew those trials were all politically motivated.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago

But we're constantly being told by the left that the evacuation was Trump's plan.  

And he lied to America.

And he directly caused the deaths of 13 Service members.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    one month ago
he directly caused the deaths of 13 Service members

trump let the taliban out of prison, so yeah, he did ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.1    one month ago

Can't help deflecting to completely unrelated and false information. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    one month ago

that certainly seems to be MO in some debates.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    one month ago

You should see how the New York Times and the AP reported on this story.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    one month ago

I imagine its complete fiction.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.1    one month ago
I imagine its complete fiction.

Here is how the AP "reported" on it:

W ASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans on Sunday issued a scathing report on their investigation into the  U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan , blaming the  disastrous  end of  America's longest war  on  President Joe Biden's administration  and minimizing the role of former President Donald Trump, who had signed the withdrawal deal with the Taliban.

The partisan review lays out the final months of military and civilian failures, following Trump's February 2020 withdrawal deal, that allowed America's fundamentalist Taliban enemy to sweep through and conquer all of the country even before the last U.S. officials flew out on Aug. 30, 2021. The chaotic exit left behind many American citizens,  Afghan battlefield allies , women activists and others at risk from the Taliban.

House Republicans release report blaming Biden for disastrous end to US war in Afghanistan (msn.com)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.2    one month ago

Just as I thought.  Fiction.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.3    one month ago

There is a section of the newspaper reserved for that. It is called "the editorial section."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    one month ago

the idea that Joe Biden hand were tied by trump might be one of the most transparent political lies of all time. I can’t believe anyone every took it seriously. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one month ago

There are at least a half dozen very high ranking defense and national security officials , Esper, Mattis, McMaster, Bolton, Pence, Kelly, etc.  etc. who say that Trump is unfit to be president or commander in chief. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

That  has nothing to do with biden/harris  screwing up the withdrawal. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

Weak sauce

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    one month ago

No, Vic, it isn't...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.1    one month ago

Are you serious? Some of his very top national security and defense officials , who know him well, say he is unfit to hold office, and you think the fact that Harris was VP when we withdrew from Afghanistan is more important or serious?

All we get from the right nowadays is absurdity. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.3    one month ago

Then address the damning report.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    one month ago
Are you serious?

Are you?

Joe Biden ran out of Afghanistan leaving the US and those who supported us in a terrible position and you can't even address it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    one month ago

I'll let Biden and Harris etc. defend what happened in Afghanistan.

Trump is not fit to hold office.  His own Sec of Defense, National Security Adviser,  Chief of Staff, and Vice President, all say so. These are some of the highest positions in American government. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    one month ago

This seed is about the actions of Biden/harris. All you are doing is deflecting.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    one month ago
I'll let Biden and Harris etc. defend what happened in Afghanistan.

They tried and failed.


Trump is not fit to hold office.  

Weak sauce

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.8    one month ago

I'm trying to play a miniscule part in keeping that asshole Trump out of office. 

In any case Harris is not responsible for what happened in Afghanistan. She was not the decider. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

Ladies and Gentlemen,  this is the obligatory "but Trump!" whining we've all come to expect from the left when Biden failures are mentioned. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.7    one month ago
Trump is not fit to hold office.

Strictly YOUR OPINION and unrelated to this article.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.12    one month ago

Its not only my opinion, it is the opinion of many of the highest ranking officials in his administration.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.10    one month ago

Your efforts will not keep him out of office. 

He was a good commander-in-chief before and will be an even better one this time.

Harris agreed to the decision, so she is partly responsible for the failure of the mission.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    one month ago
it is the opinion of many of the highest ranking officials

One Marine's prayer:

Please President Trump, put an end to it!

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    one month ago

Opinions nonetheless.  And still unrelated to the article.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.17  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    one month ago

So what? There millions more that say the same about Harris/Walz.

What’s your point?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    one month ago

National Security Leaders for America | Copyright 2024

www.nsl4a.org

National Security Leaders for America Statement of Support for Vice President Kamala Harris

Vice President Kamala Harris is the best—and only—presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief. She has demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the Situation Room and on the international stage, from rallying our allies against Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine to standing shoulder to shoulder with our allies in the Indo-Pacific against China’s provocative actions, to advancing U.S. leadership on space and artificial intelligence. She is a steadfast supporter of service members, veterans, their families, caregivers, and survivors. She has met with our service members all around the world, from NATO’s Eastern Flank to the Korean DMZ. She has spoken repeatedly about the extraordinary skill, discipline, and dedication of our armed services. And she will make sure the United States honors its sacred commitment to those who defend our freedoms and our way of life, including protecting the benefits they earned when they return from service.

Frankly stated, Donald Trump is a danger to our national security and our democracy. His own former National Security Advisors, Defense Secretaries, and Chiefs of Staff have said so. He continually disrespects those who serve in uniform, including wounded warriors, prisoners of war, and those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. He disparaged fallen heroes as “suckers” and “losers” and insulted the heroic service of the late Senator John McCain. At his core, he does not understand selfless service and sacrifice, and he should never be allowed to again serve as commander-in-chief of the greatest fighting force in the world. He repeatedly fails to take responsibility for his own role in putting service members in harm’s way. Without involving the Afghan government, he and his Administration negotiated a deal with the Taliban that freed 5,000 Taliban fighters and allowed them to return to the battlefield. Then, he left President Biden and Vice President Harris with no plans to execute a withdrawal, and with little time to do so.

This chaotic approach severely hindered the Biden-Harris Administration’s ability to execute the most orderly withdrawal possible and put our service members and our allies at risk. Nevertheless, President Biden with the support of Vice President Harris ended America’s longest war, oversaw the largest airlift in U.S. history, and brought our troops home. Our service members and their loved ones deserve a President with the temperament and track record to serve as commander-in-chief. One who is willing to make tough decisions, who takes accountability, and who always has our back. That leader is Kamala Harris.

Admiral Steve Abbot, USN (Ret) Brigadier General Steven M. Anderson, USA (Ret) Major General Peter S. Cooke, USA (Ret) General Larry R. Ellis, USA (Ret) Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps John L. Estrada, USMC (Ret), former Ambassador Major General Randy Manner, USA (Ret) Vice Admiral Dennis V. McGinn, USN (Ret), former Assistant Secretary of the Navy General Lloyd W. Newton, USAF (Ret) Major General Marilyn Quagliotti, USA (Ret) Rear Admiral Michael E. Smith, USN (Ret)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago

And that Biden laptop is Russian propaganda too….

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one month ago

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.2  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago
National Security Leaders for America | Copyright 2024

The National Security Leaders are deliberately trying to rewrite history.  

        

Didn't Joe Biden win the 2020 election?  Wasn't Joe Biden in charge?  Wasn't Kamala Harris in the room?  Joe Biden ignored that the Taliban had not fulfilled their obligations under the Doha agreement.  Joe Biden ignored the obvious signs that the interim Afghan government would quickly collapse.  Seems rather apparent that Joe Biden only wanted the withdrawal completed in time for a victory parade on the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attack.  What transpired really does suggest that Joe Biden was motivated by politics in spite of advice and warnings.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @4.2    one month ago

I look forward to some answers to those questions.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    one month ago

If some of these people were our military leaders during WW2, we would be speaking German or Japanese today.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @4.2.2    4 weeks ago

Reporter: "Was anyone ever held accountable by the president directly for what happened with the withdrawal in Afghanistan?"

Kirby: "We have all held ourselves accountable."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Vivek Ramaswamy: "If Trump trounces Kamala at the debate, get ready for some very strange things to happen before November. They’ve already sued him, prosecuted him, tried to kick him off the ballot, and swapped out his opponent. All of it could be just a preview of what’s to come."

Question of the day: What else could the democrats possibly do to hurt Trump?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    one month ago
Vivek Ramaswamy

is an unAmerican clown. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    one month ago

You disagree with that statement?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    one month ago

For those who can't answer that question, how about this:

Do you still believe in free speech?

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bugsy
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5.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    one month ago

Shoot I’m still waiting for one of them to define what a woman is. Seems none of them can.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

This is where their hearts are:



Basically, they are indoctrinated morons.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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6.1  MonsterMash  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    one month ago

That performance earned a best supporting actress nomination on MSNBC for Rachel.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago

Biden "officials" being stumped is very commonplace lately.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    one month ago

Kamala has been the tie breaking vote in getting these ideological idiots confirmed.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    one month ago

That says a lot about the embarrassments coming from this administration.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.2    one month ago

Just like the judges that Obama got appointed, it will all come back to harm us.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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7.2  MonsterMash  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    one month ago

Senator Kennedy would make a great monitor in a presidential debate, he would have the candidates whimpering like a lost kid in a department store. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago


Bill O’Reilly: “Trump governed this country in a responsible way, where everybody prospered. If you don’t believe that, you’re a moron.”

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JohnRussell
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8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    one month ago

Bill O'Reilly is a nobody nowadays. It is like taking political advice from Rosie O'Donnell. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    one month ago

Kind of like Liz Cheney?

 
 

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