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The spies who lied and the liar-in chief

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  142 comments

The spies who lied and the liar-in chief
"Folks, I don't walk as easy as I used to," he continued. "I don't speak as smoothly as I used to. I don't debate as well as I used to. But I know what I do know — I know how to tell the truth ... I know right from wrong.


Some say that had the deep state not interfered with the 2020 election, Trump would have likely won. Shortly before election day a story broke that Hunter Biden had left & likely forgotten a very incriminating laptop at a computer repair shop. The laptop was incriminating not only for himself but for his father as well. Social media refused (with a lot of encouragement) to censor the news story, which came from the New York Post. Then came the infamous "letter" from 51 "former" intelligence officials signing onto the claim that the laptop, which the FBI had and already knew was real, looked like Russian disinformation. That much is now known to all but the most radical leftist who refuse to accept facts.


Now comes the incredible second chapter: revealed by the CIA former Chief Operating Officer Andrew Makridis to congressional investigators. A revelation which is without a doubt, an act of sabotage against the American people in the 2020 election. It wasn't the Chinese who interfered, nor the Russians, nor Iran. It was our own CIA. Here is what we now know:

"Makridis has testified to the House Judiciary Committee that he was sent a draft version of the letter by the CIA’s Publication Classification Review Board on Oct. 19, 2020, and recognized it as an inherently political document.

Because of its political sensitivity, he walked across the hall from his office to inform Director Haspel about the letter. 

The letter claiming the laptop “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian intelligence operation” was  instigated by Biden’s campaign adviser Antony Blinken  (now secretary of state) in a phone call to Mike Morell, a former acting CIA director, five days after The Post began reporting damaging material from the laptop in October 2020.

Morell would testify that Blinken’s call prompted him to write the letter and organize 50 colleagues to sign it.

Five former CIA directors — Mike Hayden, Leon Panetta, John Brennan, John McLaughlin (acting) and Morell (acting) — signed, as well as former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Forty-one of the 51 signatories were ex-CIA.

The Dirty 51 letter, as it came to be known, was timed to appear two days later, on the eve of the final presidential debate, to maximize its benefit to Biden by giving him a “talking point to push back on [President] Trump on this issue,” as Morell put it in an email obtained by the committee.

Sure enough, Biden used the letter in the debate to claim the laptop was a “Russian plant” and “garbage,” and successfully kill the issue.

The disclosures form part of a report by the House Intelligence Committee and the Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government  released Tuesday.

It also reveals that some of the Dirty 51, including Morell, were on the CIA payroll as active contractors at the time they cooked up the dishonest letter.

Morell denies the claim, but his name appears on a list of contractors provided to the committees by Robert Dugas, CIA deputy general counsel for litigation and investigations.

Makridis has since walked back his testimony to say that he might not have shown the letter to Haspel but only to her deputy, Bishop."

How CIA interference with the ‘Spies Who Lie’ letter made Biden the president (msn.com)

I'm sure we will be hearing a lot more about this and I am sure the Committee will be calling CIA director Haspel in.


Another issue than needs to be covered is the lies that a stumbling, bumbling Biden told during the debate:

1. Border Patrol Endorsement


Biden claimed he was endorsed by America’s Border Patrol union. That is not true. In fact, the Border Patrol Union  issued  a real-time fact-check Thursday night stating: “To be clear, we never have and never will endorse Biden.”

2. Trump Bleach Lie

Biden claimed Trump told people infected with Covid to inject themselves with “bleach.” Trump  did not  tell people to do that.

3. Illegal Border Crossings


Biden  claimed  “there [are] 40 percent fewer people coming across the border illegally” under his presidency than Trump’s. That isn’t true, as illegal border crossings have  skyrocketed  to record highs under Biden’s presidency.

4. Military Deaths


Biden claimed he’s the “only president this … decade” who “doesn’t have any troops dying anywhere in the world” under his presidency. That is false. Thirteen service members were killed during Biden’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.

5. Inflation


Biden  claimed  inflation was at 9 percent when he came into office. That statistic is false. The inflation rate when Trump left office was  1.4 percent .

6. Late Term Abortion


Biden claimed that Democrats “are not for late-term abortion.” As The Federalist’s Jordan Boyd  noted , Biden “has repeatedly promised to legalize unlimited, on-demand abortion through all nine months of pregnancy via a sweeping bill and routinely promoted  taxpayer-funded abortion  policies.”

7. Cages at the Border


Biden claimed Trump was “separating babies from their mothers [and] putting them in cages” when he was president. That statement is misleading. As admitted by the left-wing  Associated Press , these were “chain-link enclosures” inside alien-holding border facilities that were created by the Obama-Biden administration.

8. No New Taxes


Biden claimed he “didn’t” raise taxes for “anybody making less than $400,000 a year.” That is  false .

9. Hitler


Biden claimed Trump once said, “Hitler has done some good things.” As  admitted  by left-wing Snopes, there is no proof that Trump ever said this. The allegation has also been denied by Trump’s staff.

10. Biden Repeats Debunked ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ Hoax


Biden repeated the lie that Trump called deceased American soldiers “suckers” and “losers.” Numerous former Trump administration officials have publicly  refuted  the phony story. Even left-wing Snopes  admitted , “there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm or deny the alleged quotes’ authenticity.”

11. Trump’s Iran Policy


Biden claimed Trump “did nothing” to stifle Iranian aggression. That is false. For example, Trump  ordered  the assassination of Iranian general Qasem Soleimani in 2020.

12. Trump’s NATO Remarks


Biden claimed Trump told Vladimir Putin, “Do whatever you want,” regarding Russia’s invasion of Eastern Europe. But that’s not accurate.

Trump’s  remarks  came during a South Carolina rally, during which he recounted a story from when he was president and speaking with a NATO member. Trump purportedly told this state that he would withhold U.S. support if they didn’t pay their minimum defense spending obligations.

13. Climate Alarmism


Biden falsely contended that the “only existential threat to humanity is climate change.”

14. Efforts to Stop J6 Riot


Biden insinuated Trump made no effort to ensure demonstrators wouldn’t breach the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. That isn’t true. Trump  sought  to deploy 10,000 National Guard troops to the Capitol ahead of Congress’s certification of the 2020 election results.

15.  Roe v. Wade


Biden  claimed  the “vast majority of constitutional scholars supported [ Roe v. Wade ] when it was decided” by the Supreme Court in 1973. There is  no evidence  that’s true.

16. Beau’s Death


Biden claimed his son Beau died in Iraq. Beau  was not  killed in action in Iraq but died from brain cancer in 2015.

17. ‘Very Fine People’ Lie


Biden repeated the lie that Trump called white supremacists who participated in a 2017 Charlottesville march “very fine people.” Even left-wing “fact-checker” Snopes recently  admitted  that claim is untrue.

18. Unemployment Under Trump


Biden claimed the unemployment rate was at  15 percent  when he came into office. That isn’t true. The unemployment rate was  6.4 percent  when Biden was inaugurated in January.

19. Trillionaires


Biden claimed there are “1,000 trillionaires in America.” There are  not , in fact, any trillionaires in America or the world.

20. NATO


Biden  claimed  Trump “wants to get [the United States] out of NATO.” There is no evidence to suggest that’s true. In fact, Trump regularly pressed NATO countries during his presidency to meet their defense spending commitments.


Still voting for Biden?


Today's news:

It should be a momentous day for the SCOTUS as important decisions are expected later today.

S everal US military bases in Europe were put on high alert this past weekend over a possible terror attack in the region that could target American personnel, according to multiple reports. The alert is the second highest state of alarm issued by the US Army, and an American official at one of the bases said they hadn’t witnessed that level in at least a decade.

US military bases in Europe on high alert over possible terrorist threat: reports (msn.com)

A new bill granting state law enforcement officials more power to remove squatters and raising criminal penalties for offenders went into effect Monday, potentially giving  Florida homeowners  the tools to protect their property while circumventing lengthy court processes. In a video posted to X, Gov. Ron DeSantis said his state is "ending this squatter scam once and for all" with HB 621.

Florida homeowners fight squatters with new law that ends 'scam,' governor says | Fox News

A nti-Israel protesters clashed with police in  New York City  on Friday as they aimed to disrupt a big-money fundraiser for President Biden, which was held 24 after his disastrous debate with former President Trump.  "There is only one solution — Intifada revolution!" demonstrators chanted as they marched from Madison Square Garden toward the Hammerstein Ballroom on West 34th Street in Midtown Manhattan where the swanky political gathering was taking place. 

Anti-Israel protesters arrested trying to disrupt Biden's megabucks fundraiser (msn.com)


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Good morning

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According to AAA A record-setting number of nearly 71 million Americans are expected to travel for the Fourth of July holiday this year, making it the busiest summer travel period yet.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
According to AAA A record-setting number of nearly 71 million Americans are expected to travel for the Fourth of July holiday this year, making it the busiest summer travel period yet.

Good for them. The economy must be great !

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 weeks ago

Six members (the bought and paid for ones) on the SC just said #34 is entitled to some immunity from prosecution.

We all must vote BLUE - looks like ginny and the other bought and paid for justices - are going to hand the traitor immunity - further delaying the traitors trials.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

We have to vote for Joe.  OUR DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON IT.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 weeks ago
OUR DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON IT.

Sad when that misinformation is the only thing Joe supporters can say to try and get some more votes for Joe

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
Biden repeated the lie that Trump called deceased American soldiers “suckers” and “losers.”

This has been proven over and over again. Sorry. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Ah… the “ pro democracy” party that uses government officials to collude with the corporate media to push lies upon the American people and censor the truth. Whether it’s Covid, Biden’s laptop or Biden’s senility, the playbook is the same.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago

This time it came back to haunt them.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago
collude with the corporate media

Collusion isn't a crime...... Remember? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @2.2    2 weeks ago

I didn’t say it was a crime.  But  I’m not a fascist, so I don’t approve of the government colluding with a supposedly independent media to lie to the american public.  But I guess you don’t have that problem.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Today's question of the day:

Has any political candidate in recent memory had a more devastating debate performance than Joe Biden had last week?

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Nerm_L
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3.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    2 weeks ago
Has any political candidate in recent memory had a more devastating debate performance than Joe Biden had last week?

Well, Gerald Ford comes to mind.  And there was a little known President named Obama that had a bad night, too. 

Ford couldn't recover (he had committed the sin of pardoning Nixon, after all).  Nobody really noticed Obama's bad night since the Republican opponent was lackluster.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1    2 weeks ago
Well, Gerald Ford comes to mind.  And there was a little known President named Obama that had a bad night, too.

I believe both were running for a second term and the theory is that they get very complacent after having people tell them they are right about everything.


Ford couldn't recover (he had committed the sin of pardoning Nixon, after all).

One can't overcome the pardon of the bogey man.


Nobody really noticed Obama's bad night since the Republican opponent was lackluster.  

That was a mismatch if there ever was one.


I still think Biden's night was far more consequential.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
I still think Biden's night was far more consequential.

Yeah, I can agree with that primarily because I don't see a way for Biden to recover.  That's going to have a larger effect on down ballot races.  Part of Democrats' panic arises from fears that Biden has upset the strategy for regaining control of the House and locking in control of the Senate.

Too bad Doonesbury isn't around anymore.  Biden could be depicted as a forked vegetable. 

512  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

It is safe to say that Ford and Obama were rusty, but Joe was spaced out completely.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    2 weeks ago

4. Military Deaths

Biden claimed he’s the “only president this … decade” who “doesn’t have any troops dying anywhere in the world” under his presidency. That is false. Thirteen service members were killed during Biden’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.

Please don't forget those military service members killed in Jordan just this year.

Other than that, thank you for pointing out Biden's debate lies that CNN instant fact checking did nothing about.

Let the "But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!" screams from the left commence.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 weeks ago

That one should have got a follow up question, but evidently, the last thing that Tapper or Bash wanted to do was add any more fuel to the fire consuming Biden.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

The "Pride Parade" came to an abrupt end in St Louis as Pro-Palestinian protestors hi-jacked it. And that was that.

Imagine if some anti-gay group had tried to do that?


 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    2 weeks ago

They shouldn't be called Pro Palestinian demonstrators if they are chanting/supporting Hamas. Hamas definitely isn't pro Palestinian.

The demonstrators also don't know anything about Hamas; because Hamas wouldn't have just hijacked the Pride Parade- they would have grabbed all of the participants and dropped them off the highest building they could find.

So an anti-gay group did hijack the parade. It was just a leftist anti-gay group- so that makes it OK.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1    2 weeks ago
so that makes it OK.

Yup, t is the only time we'll see that.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

Yep, that's why Dana Bash and Jake Tapper couldn't fact check the debate.  Snopes and other fact checkers really have been debunking Democrats' lies about Trump (which Biden still thinks is campaign fodder).  Democrats want to selectively deny witness testimony, documented facts, and real-time observation of both Trump and Biden.

Democrats fear any sort of objective comparison of Trump's and Biden's records.  Democrats are purging the news archives, skewing AI search bots, and planting fake facts in the record (using cheap, deep, or creepy means).  There really is a reason Federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies want backdoor access to all these bright, shiny toys.

  • Meanwhile, the unbiased liberal press is giving (gifting?) the deadeye leadership of the Democratic Party all the air time they need to say what Biden should have said during a 90 minute debate.  (Somehow the Democrats claim 'it takes a village' left out the part that tells us that applies to village idiots.)

  • The 'far right' is taking over Europe and causing panic over the renewed rise of Fascism, Nazism, and any other 'ism' the left has weaponized.  (Apparently Biden missed that Europeans are pissed about the failures of socialist democracy.)

  • As if by magic, Biden's foreign policy has created conditions where Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran simply cannot avoid establishing an isolated power bloc.  (Why do Democrats deliberately avoid talking about Biden's foreign policy wins?  Biden has shown us that kneepad diplomacy doesn't work.)  

  • The 'burn it down' protesters are up in arms again over a cop killing a kid that was waving around a toy gun that looks pretty damned real even up close.  (Why don't Democrats demand a ban on toy guns?  Seems like something the Surgeon General could do.  The 2nd amendment doesn't protect a right to toys, after all.  Seems a no brainer; perfect for the Biden administration.)

  • Climate activists are now telling us that Biden's never-before-seen government subsidies for alternative energy (ignoring nuclear and hydroelectric energy, of course) has been fueled by increased consumption of fossil fuels.  (Oil exports and fossil fuel consumption have certainly boosted GDP; almost as much as inflation has.)

  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @6    2 weeks ago
Snopes and other fact checkers really have been debunking Democrats' lies about Trump (which Biden still thinks is campaign fodder). 

I'm not sure who the other fact checkers are, but it didn't take much for Snopes to achieve credibility.


Democrats fear any sort of objective comparison of Trump's and Biden's records. 

That is the understatement of the year. 


Democrats are purging the news archives, skewing AI search bots, and planting fake facts in the record (using cheap, deep, or creepy means).  There really is a reason Federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies want backdoor access to all these bright, shiny toys.

And unfortunately, they have all the power to do it.

A lot of good points. I hope people will take the time to think about it.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    2 weeks ago
I'm not sure who the other fact checkers are, but it didn't take much for Snopes to achieve credibility.

Well, most notable of late is the editorial board of The New York Times.

The all-too-obvious response to a bad debate night is to push the candidate in front of the cameras.  Isn't that what Obama did after whiffing the first debate with Romney?  Of course today's problem is that higher visibility for Biden may make things worse.  (BTW that may become the strategy to remove Biden from the ticket.  If Biden becomes Democrats' scapegoat down ballot then he's done, stick a fork in him.) 

This one debate debacle ensures that Biden becomes a lame-duck on Nov. 6th IF (big if) Biden can stay in the race and win on Nov. 5th.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

They have to convince him to give it up. They need to get by his sister and wife who want him to go on. 

Then there is the matter of all those pledged delegates.

No matter what they do now it won't be easy.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
They have to convince him to give it up. They need to get by his sister and wife who want him to go on. Then there is the matter of all those pledged delegates.  No matter what they do now it won't be easy.

Hey, there's always the 25th amendment.  (Remember when that was a thing?)   All it takes is one doctor willing to certify that Joe Biden is no longer competent to manage his own affairs (or the country's).  Hell, Alvin Bragg could open a competency hearing in New York.  (It'd be a hoot if Joe Biden could be President everywhere except New York.  A new precedent!)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.3    2 weeks ago

At least that way wouldn't make all the millions of people who voted for him in the primary not feel disenfranchised via a brokered convention.

It will leave egg on the face of all those who lied about his mental condition.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    2 weeks ago

This is what we get when he is NOT hopped up on something. They couldn't afford to have him tested if it would have been a requirement.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.6  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    2 weeks ago
It will leave egg on the face of all those who lied about his mental condition.

You actually have to have some integrity to have "egg on your face" the far more likely scenario is the Reid response, well we won didn't we.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.5    2 weeks ago
This is what we get when he is NOT hopped up on something.

Either that or they gave it to him so late it didn't take effect until the debate was over.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6.1.6    2 weeks ago

Her new spin is that the moderators should have come after Trump.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
6.1.9  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    2 weeks ago
It will leave egg on the face of all those who lied about his mental condition.

Naw, Democrats could just claim Russians poisoned Biden.  Putin's denials would seal the deal.  After all, the CIA is on Democrats' side.

Trying to spin Biden's debate debacle has blown up a whole omelet in the faces of Democrat leadership.  (If you pay attention, some of that spin has talked about Biden's Presidency in the past tense.  Some of Pelosi's remarks have been quite telling.)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.5    2 weeks ago

Yeah, and what is the former 'president' hopped up on?  Meth?  PCP?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.5    2 weeks ago

Yeah, President Biden is a coke head like Donny, Jr.?  Or always 'hopped up' on something?

Ridiculous.

What would #34 have been on if tested?  Meth and PCP sounds likely.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

I'm trying not to pile on poor Joe and the media but:

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 weeks ago

The Daily Dump.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago

1. Border Patrol Endorsement

Biden claimed he was endorsed by America’s Border Patrol union.

Not sure how Traitor Joe or his handlers can think that the Border Patrol union would support them after everything he did to them.  

16. Beau’s Death

Biden claimed his son Beau died in Iraq. Beau   was not

If you can't remember where and how you own child died, it's time to step down.  You're not only a failure as a politician but a failure as a father.  Although I think he is trying to use his sons death trying to get a pity endorsement from veterans.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Jill Biden graces the cover of the August issue of  Vogue . The first lady's profile by the prestigious fashion magazine comes after her predecessor  Melania Trump  was famously snubbed by the publication.

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Jill Biden Gets 'Vogue' Cover After Melania Trump Was Snubbed by Magazine - Newsweek


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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
9.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 weeks ago

That cover photo of Dr. Jill isn't retouched at all.........................../S

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1    2 weeks ago

Let's just say she was put in the best possible light.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
9.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1    2 weeks ago
That cover photo of Dr. Jill isn't retouched at all.........................../S

A cheap fake?  Say it ain't so ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    2 weeks ago

Glamor magazines routinely "retouch" photos to put the subject in the best possible light. 

Where have you been for the past hundred years?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
9.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.3    2 weeks ago

I know that FFS

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.4    2 weeks ago

Then why did you say what you said at 9.1?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.5    2 weeks ago

Did he say something that was incorrect, like 9.2?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @9.1.2    2 weeks ago

The cheap fake would be Melania - all plastic

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.3    2 weeks ago

Thanks for agreeing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 weeks ago

They only put women with class and who haven't posed nude as 'supermodels' on the cover.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @9.2    2 weeks ago

Please supply their policy statement that says that

 
 
 
MrFrost
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9.3  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    2 weeks ago
Melania Trump  was famously snubbed by the publication.

Because she poses nude and is a disgusting whore. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @9.3    2 weeks ago

Because she poses nude and is a disgusting whore. 

Misogyny is never far from the surface…

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.3.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.3.1    2 weeks ago

The folks that complain about her the most were probably the first to try and find her pictures on line

 
 
 
George
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10  George    2 weeks ago

7. Cages At The Border

Biden claimed Trump was “separating babies from their mothers [and] putting them in cages” when he was president. That statement is misleading. As admitted by the left-wing   Associated Press  , these were “chain-link enclosures” inside alien-holding border facilities that were created by the Obama-Biden administration.

So what is worse? separating children from the people who they crossed the border with for a short period of time until you can verify who they are and that they are actually related to the children or give them to human traffickers like Obama did?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

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The 18% who think Biden inspired confidence are taking today off.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    2 weeks ago

I'd be curious to see just how many independents and non-Maga thought Trump looked "presidential" . I suspect that is a tiny number. The idea that Trump was presidential during a debate where he lied more than 30 times is ludicrous. 

Of course ludicrous is where the modern GOP is most of the time these days. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    2 weeks ago
The 18% who think Biden inspired confidence are taking today off.

You always fantasize that people are afraid to post on your columns,  because , I guess, they cant counter your infallible reporting and commentary.  It is very weird.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2    2 weeks ago
they cant counter your infallible reporting and commentary.

Sounds about right

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @11.2    2 weeks ago
You always fantasize that people are afraid to post on your columns,

I guess they always knew I was coming. In 1957 they had me writing for the New York Globe and dining at Toots Shor's Restaurant and giving advice to a Senator with Sidney Falco and everyone in Manhattan wanting to please me. It's true, despite what they did to Donald Trump, I love that dirty town:




I think Burt captured my personality fairly well / S


 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
11.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12  Dig    2 weeks ago
Still voting for Biden?

If he ends up being the only viable other option? Absolutely.

I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for a known national security threat, a malignant narcissist, a pathologically lying mythomaniac with a god complex, and a demagogic tyrant who has already tried to destroy the republic once. 

No patriot of this republic can support someone who tried to pull off a self-coup that went so far as to culminate in a violent attack on the US Capitol to stay in power after losing an election. 

Don't forget what old Ben said, "A republic, if you can keep it."

Support for Trump is literally anti-American. What the hell is wrong with you people who support him? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago

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Dig
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12.1.1  Dig  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1    2 weeks ago
How about Bill Ayers? Would you write him in?

How about reading the rest of the sentence you quoted? 

And when you're done explain your support for a proven tyrant.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Dig @12.1.1    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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12.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.2    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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12.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dig @12.1.1    2 weeks ago

The only thing the democrats have proven is that they'll break any law or norm to beat Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.4    2 weeks ago

The Projection

 
 
 
Ronin2
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12.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.4    2 weeks ago

You think Democrats will stop at Trump?

If they have proven anything else it is this.

If you let Democrats get away with their tactics once; they will keep pushing and expanding until they are stopped. 

The only way to stop them is to vote every damn one of them out of office. Neuter their power until they learn that the law really does apply to everyone equally; including them!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
12.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @12.1.6    2 weeks ago
You think Democrats will stop at Trump?

God I hope not. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2  George  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago

You realize there are other people on your ballot besides he who shall not be named and Joe Dementia right? every think about breaking free of your party shackles and choosing another path? Have you looked at Chase Oliver? a former Obama supporter? or Jill Stein? or any of the other candidates?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
12.2.1  JBB  replied to  George @12.2    2 weeks ago

So, I'm free to waste my vote on a non-viable?

You first!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.2  George  replied to  JBB @12.2.1    2 weeks ago

The party thanks you for your loyalty, Generally you only hear that in communist countries but it appears to be welcome here now also.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.3  George  replied to  JBB @12.2.1    2 weeks ago

You claim to live in NY, so that makes your vote for a democrat for president as worthless as a republican vote in Mississippi. 

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.2.4  Dig  replied to  George @12.2    2 weeks ago
every think about breaking free of your party shackles and choosing another path? Have you looked at Chase Oliver? a former Obama supporter? or Jill Stein? or any of the other candidates?

I'm not a member of any party, and thus have no shackles. Third party candidates will not be viable, as everyone should know. 

Joe Dementia

The republic will easily survive another Biden term. Benedict Donald has already tried to usurp power and destroy it. Do you actually support that?

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.2.5  Dig  replied to  George @12.2.3    2 weeks ago
You claim to live in NY, so that makes your vote for a democrat for president as worthless as a republican vote in Mississippi.

You have that ass backwards. Votes for the minority party in perennially red or blue states are the ones that are worthless, because they never make it out of the state. They are essentially nullified at the state level by the electoral college.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.6  George  replied to  Dig @12.2.4    2 weeks ago
Third party candidates will not be viable, as everyone should know. 

You might as well join a party you are definetely doing their bidding, and as long as you have that mindset there is no reason for them to every give you better choices. 

Joe Dementia

So is Joe Dementia worse than Voldemort? sorry if you didn't get the reference.

The republic will easily survive another Biden term.

Biden is absolutely incompetent to continue in role of President.

Benedict Donald has already tried to usurp power and destroy it.

And yet we heard if elected he would never leave, and yet he left. do you have so little faith in our Military, the people i severed with would never allow a president to stay in power after his term was up and would remove him in a matter of hours.

Do you actually support that?

Sigh......I will not be voting for either major candidate, since both are unacceptable, but if you choose to shoot yourself in the right foot instead of the left that is up to you. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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12.2.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Dig @12.2.4    2 weeks ago

“Do you actually support that?”

The attacks on Biden and all things Democrat are in direct proportion to their support of the convicted felon and all things he, even in the abomination, represents. 

It is unsupportable, but it matters little in their ignorance and hatred and ultimately, their fear. Fear that is palpable in knowing that the world they have created is being threatened. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.8  George  replied to  Dig @12.2.5    2 weeks ago

No i actually don't, if you don't live in a swing state your vote is worthless for the off party. you have that assbackwards.

 
 
 
JBB
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12.2.9  JBB  replied to  George @12.2.2    2 weeks ago

No. you got everything bassackwards...

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.10  George  replied to  JBB @12.2.9    2 weeks ago

Your vote for democrats in NY is like pissing in the ocean. 

 
 
 
Dig
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12.2.11  Dig  replied to  George @12.2.6    2 weeks ago
You might as well join a party you are definetely doing their bidding

Doing who's bidding? If there are only ever two viable candidates, and one is a fucking tyrant, not voting for the tyrant does not amount to doing anyone's "bidding".

Biden is absolutely incompetent to continue in role of President.

Granted, he's old, but after one term we are still doing much better than our peer countries (economically), our alliances are still strong, and the republic still stands. The same will very, very likely be true in another four years, especially the part about the republic still standing, which is really the most important thing.

and yet he left.

Yeah, after his coup attempt failed. Big fucking deal. That's what you do when your coup attempt fails. The attempt itself what matters.

I will not be voting for either major candidate

You're certainly free to do that, but voting for someone who will undoubtedly lose is a waste of a vote that could otherwise be cast to protect the republic from a tyrant. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.2.12  George  replied to  Dig @12.2.11    2 weeks ago

There are only 2 viable candidates because of closed minded bigotry and partisan brainwashing of the electorate. 

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.2.13  Dig  replied to  George @12.2.8    2 weeks ago
if you don't live in a swing state your vote is worthless for the off party

That was exactly my point. Should I have phrased it differently?  You stated the opposite originally, calling a red vote in a red state (and vice versa) a worthless vote. The ones for the party with no chance of winning are the worthless ones, because only the winning ones count and advance to the national level in the electoral college.

 
 
 
George
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12.2.14  George  replied to  Dig @12.2.13    2 weeks ago

Sigh.  So if I vote republican in Mississippi you feel my vote matters? It matters even less than a democrat vote does.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.2.15  Dig  replied to  George @12.2.14    2 weeks ago

OMFG. 

Here's your original comment to JBB that I responded to:

You claim to live in NY, so that makes your vote for a democrat for president as worthless as a republican vote in Mississippi.

NY is a solid blue state and MS is a solid red state. What you're saying there is that blue votes in blue states and red votes in red states are worthless.

See?

I pointed out that it's actually the opposite, and then you say this:

if you don't live in a swing state your vote is worthless for the off party.

That's what I said. That was my point. If you live in a solid red or blue state (not a swing state), then votes for "the off party" are the worthless ones, because at the end of the day they don't actually matter.

That's not what you said in your first statement. You changed your position there.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago

Well put.  Jan6th and the surrounding facts of the coup attempt disqualify Trump for all time. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
12.3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3    2 weeks ago
Jan6th and the surrounding facts of the coup attempt disqualify Trump for all time.

And exactly what LEGALLY disqualifies him?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3    2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, ginny and the other bought and paid for SC justices just gave the traitor some immunity from prosecution in overthrowing the election - just like they gave some of the white supremacists/#34supporters/the#34incitedmob on1/6 a break

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @12.3    2 weeks ago

The Court just said that a President is allowed to use passionate and persuasive language.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.3.3    2 weeks ago

Is that what they're calling incitement these days?  

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
12.3.5  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12.3.1    2 weeks ago

And exactly what LEGALLY disqualifies him?  

So morals do not count at all for you?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
12.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @12.3.5    2 weeks ago

so you can't find anything that LEGALLY disqualifies him.

And with you supporting Pedo Joe, your "morals" argument is worthless.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
12.3.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.4    2 weeks ago

And the only place we see the "incitement" are those who can't PROVE it happened.  Remember, Pelosi and her misfit band of brainless lemmings investigated and come up empty handed.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
12.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago
I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for a known national security threat, a malignant narcissist, a pathologically lying mythomaniac with a god complex, and a demagogic tyrant who has already tried to destroy the republic once. 

HOW has Trump tried to destroy the Republic?  The dweeble peebles blame Trump for NOT calling out the military which would kinda be necessary for a coup.  And only one person was shot to death during the attack on the Capitol --- by a scared-shitless Secret Service agent.  

So, how could the Senate certify the (uncertifiable) election results on the same day as the violent overthrow of the US government without the military being present?  The fate of the entire Republic rested on the shoulders of rent-a-cops defending one chamber of the Capitol.  Biden's FBI could stage a better coup than that.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.1  George  replied to  Nerm_L @12.4    2 weeks ago

It is amazing that the masses have been brainwashed into believing that Trump led a coup without any military support, of course this is the same media who said that 9 intelligence agencies said trump colluded with Russia, they didn’t. Or that Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation, it wasn’t, there was no gain of function research at Wuhan. There was.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
12.4.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @12.4.1    2 weeks ago

Immunity it is.............mostly

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.4.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Nerm_L @12.4    2 weeks ago
So, how could the Senate certify the (uncertifiable) election results on the same day as the violent overthrow of the US government without the military being present? 

Some folks give Trump alot more credit then they should.  They would rather just say but but but Trump and have the rest of the hive shake their collective heads yes.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.4  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.4.2    2 weeks ago

For official acts. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
12.4.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Nerm_L @12.4    2 weeks ago

“…how could the Senate certify the (uncertifiable) election results…

And yet they did in their understanding of the importance of our long standing tradition of a peaceful transition of power, doing so at  demonstrable personal risk. 

That it was delayed speaks to the intentions of one who had absolutely no interest in the understanding of our proud history.

That people were injured and one died that day lies solely on him. 

That you still think the vote was somehow ‘uncertfiable’ lies solely on you. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.6  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @12.4    2 weeks ago

Looks like all the traitors including the traitor who incited them, just got a break from the bought and paid for justices - ginny and the other 5.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.4.7  Dig  replied to  Nerm_L @12.4    2 weeks ago
HOW has Trump tried to destroy the Republic?

Are you honestly unaware of the fact that if elections don't matter, if someone can actually take power regardless of the result, then we won't be a republic anymore? Trying to nullify an election and take power is an act of a tyrant. Trump tried to do that. In plain sight, no less. Starting only a couple of weeks after the election and running all the way through Jan 6.

He knew he'd lost. He was informed of the result just like every candidate before him in history. And what did he do?

Even after Republicans checked, rechecked, and checked again nobody could support his claim of "massive fraud", because he was flat-out lying in an attempt to usurp power from the legitimate winner. Had he succeeded it would have ended the republic. He's a tyrant.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.8  Tessylo  replied to  Dig @12.4.7    2 weeks ago

Just nuts that someone would say that 'HOW has the traitor tried to destroy the public?'

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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12.4.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Dig @12.4.7    2 weeks ago

He never ordered his supporters to riot and break into the Capitol. The riot was spontaneous and there was little he could do to stop it. Prove otherwise.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.4.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @12.4.6    2 weeks ago
Rob Reiner
@robreiner
·
A Convicted Felon has just been given a Get Out of Jail Free card by his Compromised Supreme Court. Autocracy here we come.
 
 
 
afrayedknot
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12.4.11  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @12.4.9    2 weeks ago

“He never ordered…”

God gawd man. From election night to 1/6 he fomented doubt, not tacitly but explicitly encouraging his brainwashed followers to disrupt the ceremonial proceedings.

And it inexplicably proceeds to this day. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.4.12  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.10    2 weeks ago
David Rothkopf
@djrothkopf
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Not only is the majority decision made of whole cloth and divorced from any idea within the Constitution but it is contra-Constitutional, against the principles on which the country was founded...and may well contribute to its decline and fall.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.4.13  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.12    2 weeks ago
digby
@digby56
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I can't help thinking about McConnell's calm assurance that Trump didn't need to be convicted in impeachment(and thus made ineligible to run again) because he was still liable for his actions in the criminal courts. Uh huh. One more shovel full for the gravedigger of democracy.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.4.14  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.13    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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12.4.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.12    2 weeks ago

Didn't Obama have a US citizen killed simply because he declared him a terrorist?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.4.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.14    2 weeks ago

I would be concerned if I were Donald.  Joes minions are probably already asking Hillary for the name of a couple friends she has used in the past.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.17  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.4.15    2 weeks ago

a couple of them, and then killed a 15 year old boy by mistake while he was eating a sandwich.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.18  George  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.14    2 weeks ago

That is hysterical, how many congressmen and woman have used their office for personal gain though criminal insider trading? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
12.4.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.4.15    2 weeks ago

That should have set a precedent for Trump's case..........

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.4.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.14    2 weeks ago

Oh, the one who sees the law through the eyes of a what did she call herself?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
12.4.21  Nerm_L  replied to  Dig @12.4.7    2 weeks ago
Are you honestly unaware of the fact that if elections don't matter, if someone can actually take power regardless of the result, then we won't be a republic anymore? Trying to nullify an election and take power is an act of a tyrant. Trump tried to do that. In plain sight, no less. Starting only a couple of weeks after the election and running all the way through Jan 6.

Why the hell isn't Donald Trump still in the White House?  How could Joe Biden be inaugurated on schedule without interference?  

He knew he'd lost. He was informed of the result just like every candidate before him in history. And what did he do?

Trump threw a tantrum.  So did Hillary Clinton when she lost.  You know, when Trump won in 2016 Democrats were calling for resistance and insubordination by bureaucrats.  Why wasn't that attempt to deliberately interfere with official performance of executive activities the same as a 'deep state' insurrection and coup?

Even after Republicans checked, rechecked, and checked again nobody could support his claim of "massive fraud", because he was flat-out lying in an attempt to usurp power from the legitimate winner. Had he succeeded it would have ended the republic. He's a tyrant.

And no one can certify that mail-in voting wasn't tainted by electioneering, buying votes, or coercing votes with threats.  You are aware that bundling a ballot with campaign literature would be a violation of election laws -- at a polling station.  You are aware that someone showing you how to vote on a ballot would be a violation of election laws -- at a polling station.  There's no way to certify that voting irregularities monitored at polling stations didn't happen with mail-in ballots.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.4.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.12    2 weeks ago

The majority decision was based on the Court's disgust with lawfare IMO.

The decision btw rejected the extreme arguments on both sides. I think they did a great job.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
12.4.23  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.12    2 weeks ago
Not only is the majority decision made of whole cloth and divorced from any idea within the Constitution but it is contra-Constitutional, against the principles on which the country was founded...and may well contribute to its decline and fall.

You do realize the the SCOTUS decision squeezes the official authority of the President.  Granting a President more authority also gives the President more immunity.  The only way to avoid that is to limit the official power of the President.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.4.24  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.4.19    2 weeks ago

Normally, I doubt they would have taken it on, but something had to be done.

The lawfare finally got checked. It had to finally stop.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.4.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @12.4.17    2 weeks ago

It was ok back then for a president to have some breathing room.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.26  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.14    2 weeks ago

Time for Joe to send orders to Seal Team 6

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.27  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.12    2 weeks ago

Can Joe now 'stack the court' with Judges un like Ginni Thomas, I mean Clarence, you know those not bought and paid for by Nazi sympathizers like Harlan Crow?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.28  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.4.15    2 weeks ago

Time for Joe to declare the traitor former 'president' a terrorist and MAGA

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.4.29  JohnRussell  replied to  Dig @12.4.7    2 weeks ago

Its hard to say if the Trump cult is incredibly stupid or incredibly malicious. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
12.4.30  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.29    2 weeks ago

It wasn't hard for Hillary.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.31  George  replied to  Tessylo @12.4.26    2 weeks ago

Why not, he learned to be a murdering piece of shit from another murdering piece of shit, Obama was the best terrorist trainer there was, [deleted][]

 
 
 
George
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12.4.32  George  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.29    2 weeks ago

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George
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12.4.33  George  replied to  George @12.4.31    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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12.4.34  JohnRussell  replied to  George @12.4.31    2 weeks ago

Spare us the dishonest garbage in your COMMENTS. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
12.4.35  George  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.34    2 weeks ago

He ordered the murder of American citizens without due process. Period! 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.36  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @12.4.11    2 weeks ago

He incited from when he lost until this day

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.37  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.29    2 weeks ago

Both

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.4.38  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @12.4.29    2 weeks ago

Hillary was right.  That's why little putin and little mushroom trump hated her so.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
12.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago
What the hell is wrong with you people who support him? 

They don't drink the same hair on fire kool aid some folks do

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.7  Tessylo  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago

You forgot megalomaniac and I agree with all you say.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
12.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Dig @12    2 weeks ago
"I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I'd vote for a known national security threat, a malignant narcissist, a pathologically lying mythomaniac with a god complex, and a demagogic tyrant who has already tried to destroy the republic once."

[] Nothing in the above statement if true or logical. The problem is not Trump but the radical agenda of the progressive left and their ongoing attempts to destroy our country. There were concentrated efforts by the Dems to interfere in the 2020 election and it's blatantly obvious this time around.

[.][]

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.8.1  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @12.8    2 weeks ago

The denial of reality is pathological

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @12.8    2 weeks ago

and the Projection

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
12.8.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @12.8.1    2 weeks ago

Yes, it most certainly is

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.8.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @12.8    2 weeks ago

[]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
“My son served in Iraq,” Biden said, referring to his oldest son Beau. “He lived next to burn pits. He came back with glioblastoma. … He [Trump] called veterans suckers and losers. My son was not a loser. He was not a sucker. You’re the loser. You’re the sucker.”

Whatever source you used lied about Biden lying about Beau at the debate. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
13.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @13    2 weeks ago

He lied, his son didn’t come home with glioblastoma.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14  devangelical    2 weeks ago

imperial presidency, imperial court...

meh, time for joe to grab the reins and get busy on his official acts as POTUS for the next 6 months ...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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14.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @14    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
15  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

No president in history lied as much as trump, that's been proven time and time again. 

 
 

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