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The left's greatest hits

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  179 comments

The left's greatest hits
During a May 8 interview with CNN’s Erin Burnett, Biden said that inflation "was 9% when I came to office."

One day historians will record what the left did to America. Somewhere in that sordid history will be the greatest political hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people.

I will rank them from most damaging to less egregious:


1) The Russia hoax: This was an absolute slanderous lie told about a Presidential candidate and the most egregious in American history. It was created by the Clinton campaign during the 2016 election. It was compounded by the willingness of the left-wing media to run with every unverified salacious story that came with it. Far worse was the involvement of the deep state in launching investigations of a Presidential candidate, knowing the Steele Dossier to be BS. Various individuals' civil rights were violated, and lives were ruined because of it. Here on NT some still believe the lie. 

2) Border Patrol Agents whipping illegal migrants' hoax: This was an obvious lie, but something the left was all too willing to believe. It was based on a liberal white guilt notion that the Border Patrol treated illegal migrants like the old slave master's overlords. Films showed that the agents were simply using their reigns to control their horses, yet there was credibility given to the outrageous claims by the Biden administration, agents were suspended and investigated, and the horse patrol unit was for a time disbanded. The leftwing media ran with it until it blew up in their faces.

3) Don't Say Gay Bill hoax. That was the name the left created for the Florida Bill which simply tried to keep inappropriate material away from young children. The word "gay" is not even in it. Yet the left-wing media drummed it into all of American's ears 24/7.

4) Covington Kids hoax: That was when an innocent bunch of school kids, who were waiting for a bus, were portrayed as racists as an activist Native American taunted them. It was a hard sell for the media and as soon as the nation was able to see for themselves what went on the narrative fell apart. Many media organizations were sued for the clear defamation of young children.

5) The young racist boy hoax: That was the one where a young boy dressed up in the KC Chefs colors during a football game was smeared as a racist. The claim was that he was defaming Native Americans. As usual the crazed leftwing media jumped right on it until they found out the boy was actually Native American. Many here tried to make that outrageous argument. They have yet to apologize.

6) The Russian disinformation hoax: This was the scheme put forward by our current Secretary of State to help dismiss and censor a real news story concerning the Hunter Biden laptop. Fifty-one former intelligence officials signed an obviously politically motivated letter claiming that the New York Post laptop story had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation. To date, not one has apologized.

7) The migrant kids in cages hoax: This was the claim that President Trump was mean because he used the same child centers that President Obama used to try and vet the sometimes-unaccompanied minors found crossing the border. The very films the leftwing media used were from the Obama years.

8) The fine people hoax: The leftwing publication "the Atlantic" was the first to frame this lie. Any rational human being would know that without Trump explicitly saying who the fine people were on the statue controversy, he was clearly not referring to Nazis vs antifa. Although Trump was put in the position of having to spell it out, this lie is still being told.

9) The drinking Bleach hoax: This time I even have left leaning PolitiFact on my side: "Trump did not explicitly recommend ingesting a disinfectant like bleach. But he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs. This is another that is still being retold."

10) Cheap fake hoax: This is the latest and comes to us via the WH press secretary chosen simply because of her race, gender and sexual orientation. The films of Joe Biden are real. This was not only a lie, but an easily disproved lie, yet the leftwing media is trying to sell it.


Now for the news:

Israel’s military said it could not defeat Hamas without installing a new administration in Gaza.

The European Union warned France to reign in its debt or face financial penalties.

A nationwide blackout hit Ecuador.

Biden is facing legal challenges over his new illegal migrant executive order.

The military is struggling with recruitment. Congress is debating proposals sponsored by democrats to include women.

The Supreme Court has 23 cases left to decide and will likely hand down all of those opinions by the end of the month, give or take a few days, meaning the next week or so may redefine the limits of Presidential power for generations to come.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Good morning.

It is going to be another hot one for most of us.

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At Millennium Park in Chicago.  Scott Olson/Getty Images

The temperature in Chicago topped 90 degrees for the fourth day this week.

My walk in the park is over. Time for an ice coffee and some A/C.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

That's a lot of hoaxes!

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Right Down the Center
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1.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    3 weeks ago
That's a lot of hoaxes!

Yes, and all ones the left pushed and were found to be false.  I think the first question Biden should be asked during the debates is has he ever apologized to the border patrol agents he accused of whipping illegals. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    3 weeks ago

Denial at its' finest

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Projection and Deflection.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Yes, that's all you have

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Yes, and all ones the left pushed and were found to be false.

So Don Jr. never met with Russian spies in Trump Tower to get dirt on Clinton? Weird, they even admitted to it. But yea, no connection to russia at all.. /eye roll/

800

Weird! 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
1.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

Care to respond with something other than a deflection? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Read the article, it's listed under number 1. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

I might quibble with your order (I'd put Russia disinformation second)  and add some, FISA memo by Schiff,  but a good list.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    3 weeks ago

After # 1 the list order is open to debate.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 weeks ago

A couple more:

(1) Claims that covid escaped from a lab are a conspiracy theory. 

(2)  You can protest racism in large groups safely, but no other public gatherings are okay. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

They belong on the list.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
3  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 weeks ago
1) The Russia hoax:

Call it what it really is - The Democrats "Big Lie".

7) The migrant kids  in cages hoax:

We still hear the Bidenistas still trying to use this pathetic claim.

8) The fine people hoax:

It is kind of funny that many of those who freaked out over this lie are actually supporting Hamas.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    3 weeks ago

True, true and true.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

The golden era, according to many conservatives

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Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

The golden era of the left:

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Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

Don't forget...

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

Freedom of expression the radical feminists say!

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

That one is on Democrats. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

That's where certain magats reside now

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

It seems alot of the left want to see things split up like that again.  College dorms for the different races, dinners where whites were not invited (Boston as an example), so called safe spaces away from whites, separate holidays and national anthems........etc.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.3    3 weeks ago

Where is that?  I would like verification that there are still segregated washrooms like that.  At least a color picture.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.2    3 weeks ago
That one is on Democrats.

Wrong again.  It WAS on the democrats decades ago, it is NOW on the republicans where all the dixiecrats moved to.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

The racial housing covenants of the urban/suburban Northeast, Upper Midwest and West Coast don't photograph as well.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.6    3 weeks ago
It WAS on the democrats decades ago, it is NOW on the republicans where all the dixiecrats moved

False, of course.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.6    3 weeks ago
It WAS on the democrats decades ago

Nothing has changed.  It's still the democrats.  Just a new generation of lemmings.  

it is NOW on the republicans where all the dixiecrats moved to.

Yeah, you should do more research on that.  Come back when you can be honest.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.6    3 weeks ago

You are wrong again.

The dixiecrats are long dead.

In presidential elections, the South supported Carter and Clinton. Repubs didn't start winning most gubernatorial and congressional elections until after the 1994 Republican Revolution, and didn't take control a majority of Southern state legislatures until the last decade, 50 years after the Civil Rights Act of 64.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.2.11  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.4    3 weeks ago

“College dorms for the different races, dinners where whites were not invited (Boston as an example), so called safe spaces away from whites, separate holidays and national anthems........etc.”

Just what do you fear? ‘Whites’ losing some right that they have exploited to their benefit for generations?

The discussion regarding race and gender and sexuality needs to be rationally addressed, lest we be doomed to continually relive the demonstrable discrimination that is a plague on our society, our birthright, and our children’s future. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  afrayedknot @4.2.11    3 weeks ago
Just what do you fear? ‘Whites’ losing some right that they have exploited to their benefit for generations?

Not it at all for me. Actually, if whites had white only gatherings, there would be SCREAMS of racist. coming from the rooftops. It's a goose/gander thing

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @4.2.11    3 weeks ago
Just what do you fear?

Nothing.  Just don't try to sell anyone about wanting unity while promoting division.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2.14  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.6    3 weeks ago

Nope, that's just another totally debunked lie. Democrats are the original racists and still are, and have thrown in the lot with the terrorist Hamas aka Palestinians.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.12    3 weeks ago

No, it isn't a 'goose/gander' thing

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.9    3 weeks ago
Nothing has changed.  It's still the democrats. 

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.16    3 weeks ago

Spin it however you want.  The Democrats fought to keep their slaves, implemented Jim Crowe laws, fought the Civil Rights Act and even gone as far as running a known KKK member as their Presidential Candidate.  They have been a racist party from the start and continue to be a racist party.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.2.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.15    3 weeks ago

Yes it is. It could and would be considered racist.................on both groups.

There are none so blind than those who REFUSE to see.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.3    3 weeks ago

They're against race mixing and sex for pleasure.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.20  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.17    3 weeks ago
Spin it however you want.  The Democrats fought to keep their slaves, implemented Jim Crowe laws

To quote " Drinker of the Wry " those democrats are long dead.  And they moved away from the democratic party before then, when it embraced civil rights.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.20    3 weeks ago
And they moved away from the democratic party before then, when it embraced civil rights.

Then why were so many Southern Congressmen and Governors and State Legislators still Dems decades after 1964?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.20    3 weeks ago

You can type that until your fingers bleed but the NT right will never accept it. Or...they have accepted but still have to use it to troll

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.23  Split Personality  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    3 weeks ago

They would never be that close together...

just saying.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.24  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.21    3 weeks ago

Then why were so many Southern Congressmen and Governors and State Legislators still Dems decades after 1964?

Because they were elected.  DUH!!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.25  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.17    3 weeks ago
They have been a racist party from the start and continue to be a racist party.

To this day

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.24    3 weeks ago
Because they were elected.  

So the dixiecrats didn't become repubs like you said.

DUH!!!

Exactly

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
4.2.27  afrayedknot  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.22    3 weeks ago

“…have to use it to troll.”

And that is all it is, using history in a failed attempt to buttress their point, but conveniently ignoring that what occurred in the past is only a fraction of the myriad set of circumstances that have contributed to shape the present.

It is disingenuous at best. And bereft of this understanding, some are content to just piss away into the wind. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.20    3 weeks ago
those democrats are long dead.

And yet so many democrats continue with that mindset.  Keep spinning.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.29  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

Wounded Knee, 1973, FBI, State Police, Marshalls, BIA LEO's under arrest by AIM...Karma

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Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.30  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.26    3 weeks ago
So the dixiecrats didn't become repubs like you said.

Congrats, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.  You are reaching farther than ever.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.31  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.28    3 weeks ago

And yet so many democrats continue with that mindset.  Keep spinning.

Which party is opposing the removal of statues idolizing confederate war generals and soldiers?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.30    3 weeks ago

How quickly your own words are forgotten:

Wrong again.  It WAS on the democrats decades ago, it is NOW on the republicans where all the dixiecrats moved to.
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.2.33  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.30    3 weeks ago
Congrats, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. 

Your writing isn’t confusing,

You are reaching farther than ever.

You are simply uninformed as always.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.34  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.31    3 weeks ago
Which party is opposing the removal of statues idolizing confederate war generals and soldiers?

If we go with what you are saying - Dixicrats.  Or are you wrong?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.35  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.33    3 weeks ago

You are simply uninformed as always.

So explain what individual democratic congressman from 50 years ago have to do with individual democrats today?  Remember these are individual, so you cannot pull the bullshit claim that they are STILL the same racist individuals.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
4.2.36  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.35    3 weeks ago

you are confusing a mindset to actual people.  The people are gone, but the mindset still exists and is on full display today.  When you understand that, you will be a little more informed.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.37  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.35    3 weeks ago
So explain what individual democratic congressman from 50 years ago have to do with individual democrats today?  

The Dixiecrats that you mentioned don’t stop voting Dem after the Civil Rights Act.  The South went red as the Dixiecrats died out.

Remember these are individual, so you cannot pull the bullshit claim that they are STILL the same racist individuals.

I take it back when I said that your writing wasn’t confusing.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.2.38  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.35    3 weeks ago
, so you cannot pull the bullshit claim that they are STILL the same racist individuals.

Of course it still has some of the same individuals, Clinton and Biden are still democrats and still racist, the democrats are a party built on racism and slavery and the only difference is they now practice the soft racism of low expectations but it is still racism none the less.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.39  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.37    3 weeks ago
The Dixiecrats that you mentioned don’t stop voting Dem after the Civil Rights Act.

They left the democratic party, so by definition they DID stop voting dem.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.40  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4.2.38    3 weeks ago
Clinton and Biden are still democrats and still racist

Are you claiming that Clinton and Biden were Dixiecrats???  You do like to pile up the bullshit don't you?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.2.41  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.39    3 weeks ago

No they didn’t, Dem Gov, Congressmen and State legislators kept getting elected until the Dixiecrats died out.  You continue to display ignorance of Southern political history.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.42  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.40    3 weeks ago
Are you claiming that Clinton and Biden were Dixiecrats?

Not what he said at all.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.2.43  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.40    3 weeks ago

They are still democrats and still racist is exactly what I wrote.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.44  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4.2.43    3 weeks ago
They are still democrats and still racist is exactly what I wrote.

Well since you wrote it, it must be true.....<sarc>

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.45  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.44    3 weeks ago
Well since you wrote it, it must be true.....<sarc>

Hell of a lot more truth in his post than claiming all the Dixiecrats became Republicans.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.2.46  George  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.45    3 weeks ago

You have to be a moron or a partisan hack to argue that those two democrats aren’t racists based on their history or actions, that’s as ridiculous as the idiots who argue that Byrd wasn’t a racist anymore because he apologized for political purposes.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.47  Texan1211  replied to  George @4.2.46    3 weeks ago
You have to be a moron or a partisan hack

Sometimes it's hard to figure out which one you dealing with.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

So true - some cons live in a time/long for a time that never was.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.3    3 weeks ago

Tell us what was.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

I don't believe very many Americans want to return to the Democratic Party's glory days of Jim Crow.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago

Nope, but keep trying to sell it, it has the look of desperation.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago
The Ballad of Davy Crockett (From Walt Disney's "Davy Crockett")

Wait, I thought that the left liked Disney, have they changed sides again?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Former chief White House medical adviser Anthony Fauci says he still fears someone may kill him

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Maybe the families of the millions who died?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    3 weeks ago

No, the magats - including #34 - are the only ones who threaten the life of this decent and honorable man.

So deplorable

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    3 weeks ago

That must be why democrats, radicals and others who normally "wait for the facts to come in" defend him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    3 weeks ago

Only cockroaches and scum would threaten this decent and honorable man.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

I have a hunch nobody threatened him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

Dr. Fauci isn't the liar.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

You mean he really wasn't behind the risky gain-of-function research that was conducted at the Wuhan lab?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

I guess he wouldn't fund research that led to a pandemic which killed 15 million people, and then lied about it to Congress.

Would he?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.1.7  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

The last interview I saw with Dr. Mengele he was hedging his bets big time, “The gain of function we were doing wouldn’t have made Covid-19, but that’s not saying that other researchers or labs couldn’t have been doing that in China we weren’t aware of.”

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @5.1.7    3 weeks ago

I heard that one. That is a long way from not funding it at all.

The one thing I've noticed all along is how he has played the democrats. As soon as people started asking questions about the origins of the pandemic, he has had others post false reports promoting the wet market, but he also began demeaning Trump. That is the way to get democrat deep state protection and as a long serving bureaucrat he knows that.

This is from two days ago:

  Fauci says Trump dropped f-bombs during 2020 COVID call (msn.com)

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    3 weeks ago

Dr. Fauci is not a liar.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.9    3 weeks ago

Then just irresponsible?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    3 weeks ago

Proof please

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Plenty of those on the left side of the aisle.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.10    3 weeks ago

Not in any way shape or form

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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5.1.14  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    3 weeks ago

Dr. Fauci used the Wuhan Lab as his Frankenstein castle.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.15  JBB  replied to  MonsterMash @5.1.14    3 weeks ago

No, it is scientifically impossible Covid-19 originated from the Wuhan lab because it is scientific fact that the genetic precursor DNA of Covid-19 could not have came from there...

The study virus DNA was evolved from a different strain!

I suppose you believe pig wormer will work on a virus too?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.1.15    3 weeks ago
No, it is scientifically impossible Covid-19 originated from the Wuhan lab because it is scientific fact that the genetic precursor DNA of Covid-19 could not have came from there...

Link?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.1.15    3 weeks ago

Our Intel Community doesn’t respect science:

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.1.15    3 weeks ago

Has anyone other than you said “scientifically impossible”?

“Lab leak not ruled out 

Straight off the bat, committee Chair Gary Peters (D-Mich.) set the tone of the hearing by giving credence to both the natural origins and lab leak theories

“There are theories that indicate that COVID-19 began either by entering the human population through an entirely natural means or possibly through a lab incident or accident,” Peters said in his opening remarks.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  MonsterMash @5.1.14    3 weeks ago

What a moronic comment.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    3 weeks ago

I'd say the families of those millions who died blame #34 for his complete not handling of the pandemic/crisis, he is the one responsible for their deaths - including his anti-vaccination ignorance.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @5.2    3 weeks ago

Paving the way for the fastest vaccine development in history would not lend to your assertion. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
5.2.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

and asserting that unproven Hydroxychloroquine which Trump promoted was a Covid cure was a LIE and wound up killing a few thousand world wide. Dr. Fauccis decades long research is what enabled the fastest vaccine ever developed, to be just that. Trump might have had to sign a few papers to allow for a fastrack, wow.

   As we all watched, Trump was a live paradox, disputing his own experts, sometimes in the same briefing. Trump should have guzzled more bleach to make America White Again, cause what an embarrassment that briefing was....what was her name, Blix or someting looked like she was gonna die. Was it you that demanded proof from Tess about Fucci receiving death threats ? , cause he is STILL receiving them, when it was disinformation from TRump and the GOP, SPEWING BS!, that needlessly took the lives of millions

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

Someone had a hunch those threats never happened

'They're lying

We know they're lying

They know they're lying

They continue to lie'

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

Forgetting more people died under Biden even though there was a vaccine the day he took office?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.2.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.4    3 weeks ago

“…even though there was a vaccine the day he took office?”

And just who and more importantly why, were some prone to refuse the vaccine? 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.2.6  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.5    3 weeks ago
And just who and more importantly why, were some prone to refuse the vaccine? 

Because both Biden and Harris said that they do not trust Trump's promise to get a vaccine in quick order. By doing so, it put doubt in many people's minds that whatever vaccines were rolled out in quick time, they are not to be trusted. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.5    3 weeks ago

Because #34 said they shouldn't

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.2.8  afrayedknot  replied to  bugsy @5.2.6    3 weeks ago

So a purely partisan decision and declaration as millions were infected and passed away. And yet some would be god damned to get a shot or isolate in focusing on the origin of the virus…and again in purely partisan pursuits. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.7    3 weeks ago

He got the vaccine himself in Jan 2021.  Oooops

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2    3 weeks ago
I'd say the families of those millions who died blame #34 for his complete not handling of the pandemic/crisis, he is the one responsible for their deaths

And you would be wrong. You do know that more people died under Biden than Trump even though he had the vaccines in his pocket.

Oops. Didn't see yours while I was writing mine RDtC

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
5.2.11  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @5.2.6    3 weeks ago
t put doubt in many people's minds that whatever vaccines were rolled out in quick time, they are not to be trusted. 

from what source do you claim to have to support this claim?

as i recall it, mainly only the 'right' were ignorant enough to not get the vaccine   

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.10    3 weeks ago

No, I would be correct

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
5.2.13  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.4    3 weeks ago
Forgetting more people died under Biden even though there was a vaccine the day he took office?

and that is Bidens fault ?  How so ?  The deaths of millions was inevitable once the virus began to spread, and the conflicting sometimes FCKN STUPID, messages Trump would send , in the end, left many more than need be, DEAD!

Biden might have slightly prematurely, claimed pandemic was over, but by that time, if you didn't know your vaccine and mask and distancing options, you weren't ever gonna

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.12    3 weeks ago

Evidence says otherwise. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
5.2.15  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.14    3 weeks ago
Evidence says otherwise.

What evidence?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.2.16  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.8    3 weeks ago
So a purely partisan decision and declaration as millions were infected and passed away

Exactly. Glad you see it.

If Biden and Harris had kept their mouths shut and not bad mouth Trump in the same sentence as talking about a quick vaccine, then maybe many millions more would have gotten it and had their lives saved.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.2.17  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.11    3 weeks ago

Biden: 'I trust vaccines. I trust scientists. But I don't trust Donald Trump' - ABC News (go.com)

I guess MSDNC did not tell you this.

In fact, there were millions of blacks that did not get the vaccines, probably because these two idiots could not keep their mouths shut.

‘The difference between life and death’ Community leaders boost efforts to reach unvaccinated Black Americans amid Delta spike | CNN

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.15    3 weeks ago

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Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
5.2.19  Igknorantzruls  replied to  bugsy @5.2.17    3 weeks ago

/"There has to be total transparency so scientists outside the government know exactly what is being approved. The context in which it's being approved and why it's being approved," Biden added.

When asked if he would approve of a vaccine cleared by scientists under Trump's watch, Biden told ABC News yes, but only if there are assurances the process was not politically motivated./

I as well trust science and vaccines, but i definitely NEVER TRUSTED TRUMP !

That quote is from your source, and i agree with it, and definitely don't see it as evidence as to Biden confusing the message sent. That would be on Trump, the LIAR, as his continuous lies forced the public to not trust him, as they shouldn't have. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.2.20  bugsy  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.19    3 weeks ago
That would be on Trump, the LIAR,

That's hilarious. Yes, he is a politician and he lies. They all do.

Biden and his block checked VP put doubt in many American's minds with what they said. Many thousands of blacks died because of their stupidity.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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5.2.21  afrayedknot  replied to  bugsy @5.2.16    3 weeks ago

“…then maybe…”

….then maybe you would have a leg to stand on but certainly have an arm to inject. Are you up to date on your vaccinations?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.2.22  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @5.2.21    3 weeks ago

Oh, I have a leg to stand on and it is very firm. You are just making excuses for one of , if not the biggest, POTUS failures in modern history.

As far as vaccines, I stopped at 2 boosters and never had a problem. I am not a leftist lemming on number 8 or 10 boosters and still wearing masks. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
5.2.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.2.4    3 weeks ago

And with that vaccine, there are still more deaths under Biden.  Maybe somebody should remind the geriatric shit that by his own declaration he should be stepping down.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
5.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.7    3 weeks ago

What does Eisenhower have to do with this?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.19    3 weeks ago

Still waiting for the proof from jj

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

When they have no response, it is memes, name calling and getting personal.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
6.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 weeks ago

You expect differently?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.1    3 weeks ago

Nope. We even had an effort by one fair minded individual to end it, but she has been undermined.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
6.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    3 weeks ago

It gets worse as the election nears and desperation grows.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
8) The fine people hoax: The leftwing publication "the Atlantic" was the first to frame this lie. Any rational human being would know that without Trump explicitly saying who the fine people were on the statue controversy, he was clearly not referring to Nazis vs antifa. Although Trump was put in the position of having to spell it out, this lie is still being told.

Your whole list is questionable but I will confine myself to this one for now. 

Regarding Charlottesville and the "Unite The Right Rally" , Trump is either an idiot or a liar, you can take your pick. It is beyond debate that the "rally at the park" was orchestrated by white supremacy groups. This was completely known before the event took place. In fact , very few people who legitimately wanted to protest the removal of the Lee statue showed up that day, in part because of what happened the previous night, the infamous torchlight "Jews will not replace us" march. 

The permit to assemble at the site of the statue was applied for and granted to a known white supremacist organizer. 

Trump either didnt know any of this or simply lied about it, either of which is a dereliction of duty. 

He said "fine people on both sides" for reason and one reason only - to placate his white grievance voter base. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 weeks ago
The permit to assemble at the site of the statue was applied for and granted to a known white supremacist organizer. 

Trump either didnt know any of this or simply lied about it, either of which is a dereliction of duty. 

He said "fine people on both sides" for reason and one reason only - to placate his white grievance voter base. 

There is an obvious problem with that weak theory (notice I didn't label it disingenuous)

If Trump is calling the Nazis "fine people," then who are the people he is calling fine on the other side?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    3 weeks ago
There is an obvious problem with that weak theory

Its not a theory Vic, it is fact. Charlottesville was a white supremacist event, not a gathering of "fine people" on both sides. 

Trump couldnt bring himself to say that because he didnt want to offend any of his white grievance voter base. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    3 weeks ago

I don't know if my question will be answered. I was opnly trying to reason with him.

For those really interested:

The post the states that Trump really said, "There were very fine people on both sides, & I'm not talking about the Neo-nazis and white supremacists because they should be condemned totally."

Facebook user Paul Strauss is among those who posted the viral meme. He pointed USA TODAY to a 2019  blog post  from Scott Adams that describes the "very fine people" quote from Trump as a "hoax" in that the reference usually leaves off the full quote.

"In other words, the president believed there were non-racists in attendance who support keeping historical monuments," the blog post states. Strauss said this "hoax" is "a lie that is tearing our country apart. Anything I can do to END it and make people aware that it was debunked two years ago, I will do."

Fact check: Meme on Trump 'very fine people' quote has inaccuracies (usatoday.com)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Then back it up with more than flapping lips.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Try to be reasonable. I already posted the truth in Post 7.1.2

Think about it. If Trump was calling extremist groups fine people, antifa would have to be the other fine people. Do you think Trump would ever call antifa fine people?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    3 weeks ago
The post the states that Trump really said, "There were very fine people on both sides, & I'm not talking about the Neo-nazis and white supremacists because they should be condemned totally."

They will ignore what doesn't fit their narrative.  It's like the "go to the capital" BS on Jan 6.  They ignore the "peacefully protest" part of the statement.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.5    3 weeks ago

God help Trump if he is not specific. They love to fill in the blanks.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 weeks ago
Vic, it is fact. Charlottesville was a white supremacist event, not a gathering of "fine people" on both sides. 

The "fine people" Trump referred  to are those  disagreeing over the statues issue. Trump literally excluded neo-nazis from that. It's a simple matter of reading honestly.

"I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?  " 

Watching the same people ping pong between "unedited videos are deep fakes" defense of Biden to their blatant misrepresentation of what Trump said about Charlottesville is something.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    3 weeks ago

I dont give a shit about some meme someone posted on the internet. 

Charlottesville was a white supremacist event. 

Point us to one sentence Trump said to that effect. He made it sound like two sides were equally disputing some other question. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.8    3 weeks ago
Charlottesville was a white supremacist event. 

That is not being fair. The Nazi groups (or whatever they were) are triggered by statues being ripped down. That group wasn't holding a rally for the hell of it. In April 2017, the Charlottesville city council voted to remove a statue and two months later voted to rename the park it was in: Emancipation Park. The pair of votes and debate around the statues set off a chain of events that eventually led to “Unite the Right” organizer Jason Kessler applying for a permit for the rally in May 2017.

That is the story, John. Trump was obviously talking about people on either side of the statue controversy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.7    3 weeks ago

www.cnn.com   /2017/08/12/politics/trump-charlottesville-statement/index.html

Donald Trump’s incredibly unpresidential statement on Charlottesville

Chris Cillizza 6-8 minutes   8/12/2017


CNN    — 

A   group of white supremacists – screaming racial, ethnic and misogynistic epithets – rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday . One person was killed and 19 others were injured when a car sped into a group of counter-protesters.

This is what the President of the United States said about it:

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It’s been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time.”

It’s hard to imagine a less presidential statement in a time in which the country looks to its elected leader to stand up against intolerance and hatred.

Picking a “worst” from Donald Trump’s statement – delivered from his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club – isn’t easy. But, the emphasis of “on many sides” – Trump repeated that phrase   twice   – is, I think, the low ebb.

Both sides don’t scream racist and anti-Semitic things at people with whom they disagree. They don’t base a belief system on the superiority of one race over others. They don’t get into fistfights with people who don’t see things their way. They don’t create chaos and leave a trail of injured behind them.

Arguing that “both sides do it” deeply misunderstands the hate and intolerance at the core of this “Unite the Right” rally. These people are bigots. They are hate-filled. This is not just a protest where things, unfortunately, got violent. Violence sits at the heart of their warped belief system.

Trying to fit these hate-mongers into the political/ideological spectrum – which appears to be what Trump is doing – speaks to his failure to grasp what’s at play here. This is not a “conservatives say this, liberals say that” sort of situation. We all should stand against this sort of violent intolerance and work to eradicate it from our society – whether Democrat, Republican, Independent or not political in the least.

What Trump failed to do is what he has always promised to do: Speak blunt truths. The people gathered in Charlottesville this weekend are white supremacists, driven by hate and intolerance. Period. There is no “other side” doing similar things here.

“Mr. President - we must call evil by its name,”   tweeted Sen. Cory Gardner,   R-Colorado. “These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.”   Tweeted Florida Sen. Marco Rubio , another fellow Republican: “Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists.”

What Trump is doing – wittingly or unwittingly – is giving cover to the sort of beliefs (and I use that word lightly) on display in Charlottesville today.

Chalking it all up to a violent political rhetoric that occurs on both sides and has been around for a very long time contextualizes and normalizes the behavior of people who should not be normalized. It is not everyday political rhetoric to scream epithets at people who don’t look like you or worship like you. Trump’s right that this sort of behavior has existed on American society’s fringes for a long time – but what we as a nation, led by our presidents, have always done is call it out for what it is: radical racism that has no place in our world.

So, that’s the big one. But there are other things in Trump’s statement that are also worth calling out – most notably “not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama.”

What Trump is doing here is pre-emptively absolving himself of blame for creating a political climate in the country in which people like these “Unite the Right” demonstrators feel emboldened enough to rally in public. Not my fault, Trump is saying. There were hate groups and hate speech under Obama too!

With someone dead and more than two dozen people injured, this is, of course, not the time for assigning blame. Or for making political calculations. This is a time to say: We stand together against what we saw in Charlottesville today. Trump didn’t do that. Not even close.

Then, last but not least, is what Trump said a few paragraphs after his “on many sides” comment. Here it is:

“Our country is doing very well in so many ways. We have record – just absolute record employment. We have unemployment, the lowest it’s been in   almost 17 years. We have companies pouring into our country. Foxconn and car companies, and so many others, they’re coming back to our country. We’re renegotiating trade deals to make them great for our country and great for the American worker. We have so many incredible things happening in our country. So when I watch Charlottesville, to me it’s very, very sad.”

Really? A pivot to an I-am-not-getting-enough-credit-for-all-the-good-I-am-doing-in-the-country line? With scenes of hatred splashed across TV screens? With someone dead?

This speech is not the time to tout your accomplishments. I mean “we’re renegotiating trade deals to make them great for our country”? Who thought that was a good thing to say in the same speech in which Trump, theoretically, was trying to reassure people that what we all saw in Charlottesville is not, fundamentally, who we are?

That no one – starting and ending with the President – raised a red flag about tacking on a laundry list of accomplishments to a speech that should have simply condemned the behavior in Charlottesville and called to our better angels, is staggering, even for this White House.

There are moments where we as a country look to our president to exemplify the best in us. They don’t happen every day. Sometimes they don’t happen every year. But, when they do happen, we need the person we elected to lead us to, you know, lead us.

Trump did the opposite today.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.6    3 weeks ago

A lot of times those blanks don't exist.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.8    3 weeks ago
I dont give a shit about some meme someone posted on the internet. 

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif As you post 7.1.10 .  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.11    3 weeks ago

That is when idiots like Karine Jean Pierre turn to improvisation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.9    3 weeks ago

The Charlottesville rally was organized by white supremacists.  Period. 

Trump deliberately made it sound like both sides were responsible. He fucked it up so badly on the day it happened he had to come back two more times in the next few days to "clarify" what he had said. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.13    3 weeks ago

Another "Check the Block" hire.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.10    3 weeks ago

#34 is a scumbag traitor who is always inciting the magats to do his dirty work, which includes the threats to kill Dr. Fauci and his family.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.14    3 weeks ago
The Charlottesville rally was organized by white supremacists.  Period.

It was based on nothing?

How far are you willing to go with this?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.16    3 weeks ago
#34 is a scumbag traitor

When was Eishenhower declared that?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.9    3 weeks ago

The Nazis were upset by confederate statues being torn down so they had a riot?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.17    3 weeks ago

It was organized by white supremacists - the magat base - scum who fully support #34

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.15    3 weeks ago

She was 3 blocks, but no brains. Sometimes they can fill the blocks and fill a qualified box as well.

Such was not the case with Karine.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.19    3 weeks ago
he Nazis were upset by confederate statues being torn down

Tell John that!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.7    3 weeks ago

'honestly'

lol

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.22    3 weeks ago

[]

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

Unreal the lengths you all go to defend the indefensible.

Deplorable.

Shameful.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
7.1.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.21    3 weeks ago
Sometimes they can fill the blocks and fill a qualified box as well.

That block exists on their checklists?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

Try to be reasonable

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.6    3 weeks ago

Not specific

lol

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.29  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.10    3 weeks ago

That doesn't contradict anything I wrote. 

Trump condemned white supremacists at Charlottesville. Anyone who said he didn't is lying. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.30  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.14    3 weeks ago
he Charlottesville rally was organized by white supremacists.  Period. 

Have you paid attention to who organizes the anti-Israel protests?

Because if you apply that standard to who Biden has defended for protesting... Oh boy...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
7.1.31  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Funny how you seem to ignore the actual quote:

"You also had some very fine people on both sides," Trump said in 2017. "You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. You had people -- and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists; they should be condemned totally -- you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
7.1.32  Gazoo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    3 weeks ago

Think about it.“

you’re asking the impossible, Vic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7    3 weeks ago

Ya!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

In case anyone missed it: Our president will now be off for 7 days preparing for the debate next week.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 weeks ago

In case anyone missed it: Our president will now be off for 7 days preparing for the debate next week.

So? 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
8.2  Gazoo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 weeks ago

I wonder how many pills and injections his “preparation” will take?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @8.2    3 weeks ago

What pills?

What injections?

What the huh?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
8.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Gazoo @8.2    3 weeks ago

He is certainly not going to remember any of the prep that is being forced on him. Probably has a memory of a gnat.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gazoo @8.2    3 weeks ago

At the tail end of the debate, we can start to measure it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

You mean 7 days of it, and it won't make a dent?

He will be at Camp David with all his campaign staff. Trump will be on the campaign trail.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
8.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.4    3 weeks ago
Trump will be on the campaign trail.

And easily hand Biden's his ass. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

I hate to do it, but I have to put it out there:

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Did the conviction scheme work?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago

Delusional

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago

It seems to have goosed Biden’s numbers nationally a bit as the race is now essentially tied on the aggregate sites.  However Emerson came out with state polling that had trump winning all battleground states and has him tied in Minnesota.  

At the end of the day, the national numbers don’t mean anything. It’s the states that matter.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2    3 weeks ago

True. We still have 5 months.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Mayor Johnson brags about forming "the blackest administration ever" as over 70 Chicagoans were shot since Friday.

Question: Is hiring or excluding based on race--racist?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
10.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    3 weeks ago

It is by definition racist, if he is hiring or giving preference to hires based on skin color he is a racist.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @10.1    3 weeks ago

I believe it is even unconstitutional.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nerm_L @11    3 weeks ago

That’s a great one. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @11    3 weeks ago

One of the first orders of business in January will be to clear out the DOJ.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
11.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.2    3 weeks ago
One of the first orders of business in January will be to clear out the DOJ.

The DOJ is so far gone that may be impossible.  Seems to be time for a reset and restart.  But the beltway bigshots will lose their fucking minds if that happens.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago
The military is struggling with recruitment. Congress is debating proposals sponsored by democrats to include women.

What kind of proposals? Combat roles? ICYMI, women are serving in combat roles and women have always served in the military. It's not like women serving is new

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Trout Giggles @12    3 weeks ago
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
12.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1    3 weeks ago

I think women should register for the draft

equal rights, baby!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
13  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Can go back in time a bit and add that planned parenthood tapes that the media immediately called "edited" thanks to a press release from the DNC but whose authenticity and accuracy were not challenged by Planned Parenthood in Court, and even further back the fake bush air national guard records rather got fired for.  If rather ran the same fake story today, he'd probably get promoted for it. 

 
 

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