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Biden, Trump, CNN agree on debate rules, format

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  robert-in-ohio  •  4 weeks ago  •  33 comments

By:   Rich Johnson

Biden, Trump, CNN agree on debate rules, format
CNN said that “though not impossible,” it’s unlikely that Kennedy will qualify.

When you come right down to it, other than making sure no one is helping President Biden (unless somehow the questions are mysteriously made available ahead of time) or that Trump forgets that he is not giving a speech and never shuts up - there is no real reason for the two of them to even be i n the same room.

No teleprompter, no notes, no whispers from the wings - how will these two manage to coherently speak to the American people.

As far as reality TV and farcical comedy this will truly be "must see TV" for many.

I think I will pass and watch a rerun of something


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


( NewsNation ) — Ten days before they meet, the current and former presidents of the United States have cut a final deal on the format, timing and rules of their first debate on June 27 in Atlanta.

CNN confirms   that the campaigns of President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have agreed to a set of rules that have never been used in past debates, including no audience, no notes, no help from aides and no interrupting the other man.

To enforce the “no interruption” rule, CNN will mute the microphone of one candidate while the other is speaking. The hope is to avoid the chaotic scene of   the first 2020 debate   when Trump constantly interrupted and ridiculed Biden to the point where he finally said, “Will you shut up, man?”

Will the rules favor Biden?


“(Trump) is the king of interrupting people. He loves to make jokes. He loves his one-liners, his zingers,” Democratic strategist Krystal Knight said Sunday on “NewsNation Prime.” “This will benefit President Biden, giving him the opportunity to fully explain himself and to fully get his comments … without having the interruption of Donald Trump,” she added.

Knight says the lack of a studio audience will also help Biden since he won’t have to hear Trump’s supporters.

“They love to heckle. They love to stand up and clap and boo. I don’t think Donald Trump is as sharp as many people think he is, and so I think that his downfall will obviously be he won’t have energy in the room by way of an audience (or) helpful advisers.”

Both men won’t be able to call on aides for help during the 90-minute debate’s two commercial breaks. The only items on the candidate’s podiums will be a pad of paper, a pen and a bottle of water.

Preparation vs. campaigning


Debate preparation time will be at a premium between now and June 27, as both men will be busy on the campaign trail.

According to   The New York Times,   Biden’s debate prep will be overseen by his first White House chief of staff, Ron Klain, who played the same role in 2020.

Last week, Trump met with Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Eric Schmitt, R-Mo., to run through policy and other possible debate topics, multiple sources confirmed to   The Hill.   Schmitt is a close Trump ally, while Rubio is among those being vetted as a potential running mate on the Republican ticket.

Under CNN’s rules, debate participants must be on the ballot in enough states to give them a chance to win the 270 electoral votes needed for victory. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is officially on the ballot in states that have a total of 89 electoral votes. Over the weekend, CNN said that “though not impossible,” it’s unlikely that Kennedy will qualify.

For the first time since it was formed in 1987, the   Commission on Presidential Debates   will not be involved in the two debates on the schedule so far. Cooperating with the Commission was a condition for candidates to receive federal campaign matching funds, but in 2008 former President Barack Obama refused the federal money and the restrictions attached to it. Since then most major candidates have followed suit.

The genesis of next week’s debate, and the Sept. 10 debate to be hosted by ABC, quickly came about earlier this spring. Biden released a campaign video daring the former president to meet him for debates in June and September. Trump accepted the challenge, and the debates were scheduled before the end of the day.


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Robert in Ohio
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1  seeder  Robert in Ohio    4 weeks ago

Debate rules: No audience, no notes, no staff help, no interrupting

For different reasons these rules will hamstring both participants

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    4 weeks ago

I don't think so.

I think Trump supporters and maybe Trump himself believe those rules will favor Biden. I disagree, they may have been intended to favor Biden, but they help Trump. It cures Trump of one of his flaws. He can't come across as a bully.

What I am more concerned about is the topics that CNN will focus the debate on. Will they be the key issues that voters care about such as inflation or the border?  Or will they mainly be about gotcha issues for Trump such as the NY verdict, the 2020 election or Jan 6th?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago
Or will they mainly be about gotcha issues for Trump such as the NY verdict, the 2020 election or Jan 6th?

Trump has NEVER forthrightly answered questions about Jan 6th.  If the moderators dont make it their first or second question to him it will be severe dereliction of journalistic duty on their part. If he doesnt like it he can stay home. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago

It cures Trump of one of his flaws. He can't come across as a bully.

What about his other countless flaws?  And to say that cutting off a bully’s mic will make him not a bully is extremely naive.  When the mic comes on the bully is still there chomping at the bit to be an idiot bully.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago
Trump has NEVER forthrightly answered questions about Jan 6th.

And at this point, voters don't give a shit about it. See 1.1

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

That is not a campaign issue. Do you think, that by the same token, they would ask Biden about influence peddling and China?

That is going to be the plan. They are always obvious.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

Why would such a question even come up? J6 amounts to nothing the American people are concerned about.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

If you think Jan 6th is foremost on voters minds- you must be working in the DOJ or FBI.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    4 weeks ago
If the moderators dont make it their first or second question to him it will be severe dereliction of journalistic duty on their part.

And if they do millions and millions of people  (including independents and undecided) will see that this is just a continuation of CNNs hit job.  Trump may gain voters if CNN goes after him and gives Joe a pass.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.2    4 weeks ago

How does that cure the failure of a human being of 'one of his flaws'?  

???????

A bully is a bully is a bully

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    4 weeks ago

it will be hilarious watching how many times trump's mic gets shut off. sounds like the makings of a fun drinking game...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    4 weeks ago

Or toking game ...

I can't drink like I used to

lol

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  seeder  Robert in Ohio    4 weeks ago

The only items on the candidate’s podiums will be a pad of paper, a pen and a bottle of water.

Unless the questions and answers are written on the pad, what possible use could a pen and pad be jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    4 weeks ago

The pen is for them to make notes on what the other guy said they may want to refer to later.  Standard procedure at these debates. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    4 weeks ago

Or for Trump to stab Biden with.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

Anything sharp should be kept from Biden.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2.1.3  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    4 weeks ago

Well of course that is the official reason, but they might just scribble and draw funny faces so that people will think that they are listening and understanding what the other is saying.

I hope the pads are thoroughly inspected to insure no crib notes

Crib Notes - piece  of  paper  that  contains   notes  or  information  to  help  someone  remember  something,  especially  one used for  cheating  during an  examination

CRIB NOTES | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    4 weeks ago

Trump should be practicing how to make a shiv.  He may need it where he’s headed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.4    4 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    4 weeks ago

Shoot!  I hate that I cannot edit my comments.

The above was supposed to be:

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bugsy
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2.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.4    4 weeks ago
He may need it where he’s headed.

Yes, there are a lot of backstabbers in the White House.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.8  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @2.1.7    4 weeks ago

And I hope he has people to check Biden's boxes to make sure he is not trying to steal classified information again.

 
 
 
George
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2.2  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    4 weeks ago

Trump is a narcissist so it the comment is about him he won't remember without writing it down, and in Bidens case the pen is to keep Joe entertained doodling so he doesn't wander off like he apt to do.

 
 
 
George
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3  George    4 weeks ago

What is the over under that they cut off Bidens mic to hide his dementia and claim technical difficulties? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @3    4 weeks ago

Biden has to be there. Only so much can be hidden.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 weeks ago

I wonder how many times trump will say rigged election during the debate ...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    4 weeks ago

I wonder how many times Biden will say No Joke and ademajfbenkdnfe

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    4 weeks ago

another drinking game

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

And for some real drama, maybe a fly will land on one of their heads.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    4 weeks ago

Be better if it crawled into their mouths.

Pretty sure Trump would crush and eat it without even slowing down; or knowing it is there.

Biden would be possessed by it. A fly is more cognitive stable than he is at this point. PETA might have to get involved as the fly will definitely suffer a contact high from all the drugs in Biden's system. It is the only way his handlers can make sure Biden is awake and angry for the debate.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1    4 weeks ago

My congratuations for a comment that actually used Biden's proper name. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Fortunately I don't subscribe to cable TV so the CNN debate won't be available.  Frankly it wouldn't change anything for me.  Joe Biden is dangerous and cannot be allowed a 2nd term as President.  

If Democrats had not gone batshit crazy it would have been easy to sit out the election.  But Biden has made it clear that apathy is not a choice.  Donald Trump is still a better choice than Joe Biden by an order of magnitude.  And rigged debates won't change that.  The only way I can see Biden winning is by rigging the election again.  Won't be so easy this time since Republicans have accepted that necessity, too.  Democrats ain't gonna control the mail-in vote this time.  Republicans are gonna vote early and often, just like Democrats.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @6    4 weeks ago

Projection, deflection, denial, delusion

Ho hum

SSDD

Also, Cocoa Puffs?

 
 

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