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Hunter Biden trial live updates: Hunter Biden guilty on all charges in historic gun case

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  robert-in-ohio  •  one month ago  •  183 comments

By:    Xerxes Wilson and Bart Jansen, USA TODAY NETWORK

Hunter Biden trial live updates: Hunter Biden guilty on all charges in historic gun case
Hunter Biden in a statement following the verdict said he was "disappointed by the outcome" but "grateful" for his family and loved ones.

The verdict was not wholly unexpected

It will be interesting to see what sentence is handed down and what the reaction of the White House will be


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


W ILMINGTON, Del. − A federal jury convicted Hunter Biden of   federal gun charges , a historic first for the offspring of a sitting president, after a trial featuring   wrenching emotional testimony   about   his drug use   from his ex-wife and sister-in-law.

President Joe Biden's son faces up to 25 years in prison for three charges − lying on a federal screening form about his drug use, lying to a gun dealer and possessing the gun − although first-time, nonviolent offenders typically get shorter sentences.

The 54-year old businessman and attorney's case came after   a plea deal fell apart   in July 2023 that could have resolved gun and taxes charges without prison time. Hunter Biden still   faces another federal trial   starting Sept. 5 in California for   allegedly avoiding taxes .

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Hunter Biden in a statement following the verdict said he was "disappointed by the outcome" but "grateful" for his family and loved ones.

Biden's legal troubles coincide with his   father   campaigning for reelection. But the elder Biden as the trial kicked off issued a statement supporting his son and later   told ABC News   he wouldn't pardon him.


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Robert in Ohio
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1  seeder  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

I did not expect a verdict to be reached so quickly, but I did think he would be found guilty after following the evidence presented by the prosecution.

The defense approach "he was not an addict at the exact moment he bought the gun" seemed very weak and wandering to me.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    one month ago

well that settles it. I won't be voting for hunter or any other convicted felon POS ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

same here!

glad you were able to settle that!

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  seeder  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

Since the proof of existence of "the laptop" seems to be a byproduct of this case, I wonder if it and its contents will pop up in other cases.

 
 
 
George
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2.1  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    one month ago

What is even more telling on how deranged some have become, they asked Clapper if he was sorry for promoting the laptop as Russian propaganda and he said no.[]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  George @2.1    one month ago
Many have said the support the letter as patriotic even after the FBI said it was real and the DOJ has used it.

Patriotic is another word (like fascist) that is used incorrectly so often it has pretty much lost all meaning.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  George @2.1    one month ago
The article is not about Trump

thank heaven...

They are willing to forfeit their honor and integrity to achieve the goal of getting trump

huh?

 
 
 
CB
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2.2  CB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    one month ago

I do have a problem with people hijacking people personal and private possessions (like the other family member's diary) through hook and crook techniques being allowed to be used against them, but it is what it is (and allowable in a court of law). With that stated, Hunter (sober) understands by now that he did these things and its time to face justice: acceptance of the consequences (that can't be denied) is a form of maturity.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    one month ago
I wonder if it and its contents will pop up in other cases.

That is most glaring. Evidence of influence peddling is all over it. However, as you say "I wonder...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    one month ago
I wonder if it and its contents will pop up in other cases.

I imagine it will.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago
Hunter Biden Guilty

And it didn't take a Judge giving fucked up instructions, pathetic gag orders or a DA dressing an expired misdemeanor up as a felony.  This one is legitimate.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    one month ago
This one is legitimate.

It was a sham trial. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    one month ago

Prove it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    one month ago

Yea, he wasn't an addict for the 10 seconds it took him to check no on the application and celebrated with a double hit of coke.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.3  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    one month ago

The evidence presented seemed pretty clear and convincing.

This charge is not often brought to trial (plea bargains) but the sides were unable to come up with a plea bargain that the judge would accept.

The trial was legit, the verdict was not unexpected if you followed the evidence presented and the defense case was pathetic.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.4  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.2    one month ago

That concept of defense strategy insured a guilty verdict 

 
 
 
CB
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3.1.5  CB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.3    one month ago

I accept the verdict. There is law. There is understanding. There is law and understanding. The latter applied here. Hunter knew it was a 'long-shot.' As he left the court video seems to show a smile briefly on his face. It's called relief of sorts. And I can understand why: The long wait to know the outcome of his case is nearly over. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    one month ago

"It was a sham trial."

Are you referring to Trump or Biden?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.4    one month ago

Agree but I am not so sure what a better strategy would have been, the check and signature weren't  really his?   

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.6    one month ago
Are you referring to Trump or Biden?

[] The article is not about Trump

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.9  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.6    one month ago

Both were valid prosecutions - the jury verdicts in each are also legitimate

 
 
 
George
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3.1.10  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.9    one month ago

Agreed, and both will more likely than not be appealed, and whether the grounds for appeal are valid will be decided by the courts.  The only thing I can be 100% assured of is there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth no matter which we it goes.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.1.8    one month ago

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Tessylo
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3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    one month ago

'This one is legitimate.'

But #34's wasn't?

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CB
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3.2  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    one month ago

We have been kindly asked to not bring 'outsiders' into this case! Please do not test the red box, or be the source of others violating it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  CB @3.2    one month ago
The article is not about Trump

Didn't mention him.

The article is not about MAGA

That's a leftist childish slur.  Never mentioned it.

The article is not about Democrats or Republicans

Didn't mention either one of those.

Please discuss the article and not what it is not about

Discussed the article just as everybody else.

Be civil or be gone

Have been civil.  

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.2  CB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.1    one month ago

I'm good. If you are too, then "Steady on." 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    one month ago

It will be interesting to see how the gun control group on the left react.  Do they go with wanting Biden to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law or will they try to rally around Biden and the hell with lying on a gun application in order to get a gun.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    one month ago

It would seem that what "the left" thinks or does will matter little, how harsh the sentence rests with the judge at this point, rather than with national polling.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1    one month ago

The interesting part of the sentencing will be how bad does it have to be for Joe to pardon him.  I am not thinking the sentencing will be that severe though.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.2  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.1    one month ago

I do not see a pardon forthcoming from President Biden, jmo

Tom Dupree, a former principal deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department, told CBS News that he does think Biden will be sentenced to prison, but more likely for a year or two, rather than a longer sentence.

Is Hunter Biden going to prison? What to know about the possible sentence after his conviction - CBS News

 
 
 
George
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4.1.3  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.2    one month ago

On Nov 6 Biden has nothing to lose, Pardon Hunter and be done with it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.2    one month ago
Biden will be sentenced to prison, but more likely for a year or two, rather than a longer sentence.

looks like a good precedent will be set for future violators...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.2    one month ago

You can bet a dollar to a donut that the liberal courts and Hunter's lawyers will pull out all the stops to get him probation and/or community service in lieu of actual prison time. I personally hope that in sentencing they nail him to the wall!

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.6  CB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.2    one month ago

One of the factors in awarding prison time would have to be considered: What amount of prison time, if any, is sufficient to punish but not be an opening for Hunter to become a 'worse' character (falling from his new found deliverance from drugs) behind bars. Oddly enough, it is often rumored that you can get intoxicated or 'high' in prison!

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.7  CB  replied to  George @4.1.3    one month ago

You may want to wait for the sentence to begin before you defer to a pardon which has already been stated as not happening.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.8  Snuffy  replied to  CB @4.1.6    one month ago

That was my thought as well. Time spent in prison could seriously impact his recovery as an addict never is cured and is a lifetime fight. 

It's also my thought that as this is his first conviction and he didn't hurt anybody else, that he stands a good chance of not getting any prison time at sentencing. I would support community service rather than prison for this.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.5    one month ago

Why?  He's a first time offender.  Why jail time?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.9    one month ago
Why?  He's a first time offender.  Why jail time? 

So is Trump. I am sure you feel the same way.............../s

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.10    one month ago

LOL!

sure! I support community service for the Orange Bad Man. But do you think he would really pick up trash in parks and along highways? I want to see him with one of those trash picky uppy things

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.10    one month ago

Hunter is not convicted on 34 felony counts like the former 'president'.  

Gloat while you can, this is all you all got on President Biden - his son's misdeeds.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.12    one month ago

Have anything to say about first offenses equity across the board??

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.13    one month ago

who owes almost half a billion dollars from previous court judgements?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.13    one month ago
 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.16  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.9    one month ago

It's that little detail called multiple felonies. He's potentially looking at serious jail time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.16    one month ago

yeah, completely unlike the former 'president'

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afrayedknot
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4.1.18  afrayedknot  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.16    one month ago

“…that little detail called multiple felonies…”

….can you count to thirty-four? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.18    one month ago

And that's just the case of the cover ups of the hush money payments ...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.20  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.17    one month ago

A felony is still a felony, no matter who committed them and how many. The law is still the law.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.21  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.18    one month ago

See post #4.1.20.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.1.22  afrayedknot  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.21    one month ago

Totally agree. And the upcoming sentencing for these two high profile cases should be accepted by all. 

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.23  CB  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.8    one month ago

Curious thing about him is he is a "special case." A president's son would have to be isolated in prison to avoid any chance of revenge or retribution from someone who hates his father or is paid to just fight, "break something," or sadly worse. It could happen in an instant or snap-no pun intended. That said, isolation for a person who is not emotionally stable or 'newly emotional stabilized can cause a whole new set of psyche pressures.

BTW, without meaning to do so, I am making a case for why this judge may decide no jail/prison time is practical and my opt for 'new' forms of punishment without jail/prison. All of these politically-charged cases between two presidents and family will take deep and fresh thinking.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.24  GregTx  replied to  CB @4.1.23    one month ago
Curious thing about him is he is a "special case." A president's son would have to be isolated in prison to avoid any chance of revenge or retribution from someone who hates his father or is paid to just fight, "break something," or sadly worse.

Why? Is the son of a politician somehow more of a target than a politician?

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.25  CB  replied to  GregTx @4.1.24    one month ago

Reformat your question as a statement and I will interact with it, please.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.26  GregTx  replied to  CB @4.1.25    one month ago

Why?...

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.27  CB  replied to  GregTx @4.1.26    one month ago

Because this is a request for understanding on background, I will proceed to deliver: I don't play games of questions: ignored, answered, unanswered with MAGAsIt turned into a reason for mocking, slowing, and non-reciprocation, plus. Just state what you seek from me in conversational sentences-no questions. I will amicably do my best to reply to it. Otherwise no.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  GregTx @4.1.24    one month ago

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.29  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.15    one month ago
4.1.12

7.6.25

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.30  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.12    one month ago
Hunter is not convicted on 34 felony counts like the former 'president'.

I see you are deflecting.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.28    one month ago

[deleted] [] Doesn't apply to Hunter

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.29    one month ago

got nothin', as usual

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.33  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  CB @4.1.6    one month ago

Looking at his path through life - what "worse character" could he become?

Rich, privileged, indulged and still unable to keep his life between the navigational beacons (so to speak)

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.34  JBB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.33    one month ago

That is equally true for both Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. The difference is that Hunter Biden is not running for President!

The problem with all false equivalencies is that they are false!

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.35  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JBB @4.1.34    one month ago

No idea what "false equivalency" you are talking about, but I agree with you that neither Hunter nor Donald have much room to become worse characters

But remember this is not about the former president it is about Hunter

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4.1.36  CB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.33    one month ago

Robert, surely you can understand that history is replete with rich, privileged, and indulged adults—even, 'fallen' celebrities whom even gave up their lives after driving it off-course: Matthew Perry comes to mind and Whitney Houston. 'Tons' of them at the top of their industries.

Prisoners are compelled to join prisons gangs (to belong); become party to criminal networks, and stronger drugs.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.35    one month ago

Hunter has made mistakes.  Like many of us he has had problems with drugs and drug addiction.  I am sure he has many redeeming qualities unlike the former 'president' who has none as well as zero class, decency, decorum, empathy, compassion, class, standards, morals, I could go on and on and on and on and on but you're correct, this isn't about #34, it's about Hunter.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.38  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.37    one month ago

And yet, the majority of your post wasn't about Biden.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  GregTx @4.1.24    one month ago

The gqp made Hunter the target

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.39    one month ago

Do you think the GOP runs Biden's JD now??!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.41  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  afrayedknot @4.1.22    one month ago

Agreed, but it must be accepted that both individuals have the right to appeal their convictions, however distasteful some here may find that concept.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.41    one month ago

You need to learn to speak for yourself.

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.43  GregTx  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.42    one month ago

[deleted][]

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.44  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  CB @4.1.36    one month ago

Robert, surely you can understand that history is replete with rich, privileged, and indulged adults—even, 'fallen' celebrities whom even gave up their lives after driving it off-course: Matthew Perry comes to mind and Whitney Houston. 'Tons' of them at the top of their industries.

Prisoners are compelled to join prisons gangs (to belong); become party to criminal networks, and stronger drugs.

So?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.45  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.37    one month ago
Hunter has made mistakes.  Like many of us he has had problems with drugs and drug addiction.  I am sure he has many redeeming qualities

I certainly haven't seen any of them in his demeanor, but perhaps you are correct.

Hunter has made mistakes and like many others have in the past, he should be made to pay for those mistakes.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.46  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.45    one month ago

Hunter has made mistakes and like many others have in the past, he should be made to pay for those mistakes.

So it’s time to go back and revisit every instance where someone did what Hunter without being made to pay for their mistake, or just Hunter?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.47  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.46    one month ago

Hunter Biden was found guilty in a court of law by a jury.

Take your complaints to Joe Biden's Justice Department.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.48  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.47    one month ago

[removed][]

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.49  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.33    one month ago

You forgot booted out of the US Navy under less than honorable conditions for positive drug tests.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.50  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.39    one month ago

BS! Hunter and his less than sterling qualities made himself the target on his own with no help from others.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.51  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.50    one month ago

The only reason they went after Hunter, was because they had nothing on President Biden.

Regarding his 'sterling qualities' - do you abandon your friends and/or family if they have problems/struggle with addiction?

Do his drug problems define him?  I imagine he has many sterling qualities like his parents who stand by him and don't throw him under the bus when he has problems.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.52  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.45    one month ago

He is paying for those mistakes wouldn't you say?

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Tessylo
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4.1.53  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.46    one month ago

AWESOME!

EXCELLENT!

Pretty much my thoughts as well.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.54  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.51    one month ago
The only reason they went after Hunter, was because they had nothing on President Biden.

So you have no issue with someone lying to get a gun and owning a gun illegally?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.55  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.45    one month ago

"I certainly haven't seen any of them in his demeanor,'

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So how well do you know him?

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Tessylo
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4.1.56  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.45    one month ago

Yes the gqp - HUNTER  MUST PAY FOR HIS MISTAKES AND DEARLY BECAUSE WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GO AFTER HIS FATHER FOR.

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Texan1211
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4.1.57  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.52    one month ago
He is paying for those mistakes wouldn't you say?

Not at all.

Someone ELSE paid his taxes FOR him.

He hasn't spent a day in custody.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.58  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.51    one month ago
The only reason they went after Hunter, was because they had nothing on President Biden.

Of course, but so what?

His plea deal went south when  Hunter pushed for too much. Instead of settling for a deal that would close the tax and gun case against him, he demanded broader immunity for other potential crimes as well. Makes you wonder what other potential prosecution he fears.

It remained Hunter’s choice about whether to take the altered deal and he refused, choosing to gamble on his chances in court.  The next question is the likelihood of guilt on his tax charges.

 
 
 
CB
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4.1.59  CB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.1.44    one month ago

You asked about what could be worse. I provided what I could to explain so.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.60  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.56    one month ago
Yes the gqp - HUNTER  MUST PAY FOR HIS MISTAKES

the imaginary gqp(WTF is that, anyways!) did not prosecute Biden, nor did they find him guilty, nor will they pass sentence on him.

Gonna have to come up with something real and believable.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.61  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.57    one month ago

thanks to his dad’s  DOJ letting the SOL expire, he also got completely  away with not paying taxes on his 2014 and 2015 foreign income  and he didn’t even have to get a sugar daddy to pay those taxes for him. And of course the FARA violations

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.62  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.13    one month ago

First offense???????????????????????????????????????????????????

The first time he got caught and had to actually be accountable for a life of scumbaggery

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Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.63  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.62    one month ago

That's what I typed. First Offense

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.64  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.63    4 weeks ago

Like most convicted felons like #34, they get away with a lot of shit, pretty much a life time of shit, fucking over 1,000s in the case of/regards to #34, and finally got caught for SOMETHING OF WHICH HE WAS FOUND GUILTY 34 TIMES

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.65  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.64    4 weeks ago

Show us your stats.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    one month ago
It will be interesting to see how the gun control group on the left react.

It'll be more interesting to hear how the gun rights group on the right react to it.  Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for his desire to use his 2nd Amendment rights.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago

Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for lying on his application.  I doubt you will hear much from the right about it at all.  I haven't heard them say much about drug addicts having guns

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago
Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for his desire to use his 2nd Amendment rights.

Yeah, try again.  He was prosecuted and convicted of lying on the documents.  

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.3  CB  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago

Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for lying on government forms about a firearm and ILLEGAL drug use. And what SAVED his out of control. . .hiney. . .from worse is he did not found to have fired it in the direction of someone. I know it and he knows it too, because he can surely read like the rest of us a government form and yet he felt it strongly enough to GET the gun anyway. 

This is not about his second amendment right: this is about what he did (unlawfully) to get a gun he, or any other 'User' should not possess. His case was a 'long-shot' and it did not pay off for him at this stage. Call it what it is.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.2.4  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago

No he is being prosecuted for purchasing a gun when he was legally prohibited from doing so and for lying on a federal document.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.2    one month ago

"...prosecuted for his desire to use his 2nd Ammendment rights."

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.5    one month ago

I thought the same thing.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.2.7  afrayedknot  replied to  CB @4.2.3    one month ago

“Call it what it is.”

Agree. He lost his right and subsequently and rightfully lost his case.

Here’s hoping that anyone applying to possess a lethal weapon be held to the same level of scrutiny. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.1    one month ago
Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for lying on his application.

You feel that former addicts should lose their 2nd Amendment rights?

Drug user cannot be barred from owning guns, US court rules

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.2    one month ago
He was prosecuted and convicted of lying on the documents.

So you feel he should not have the right to keep and bear arms?

Drug user cannot be barred from owning guns, US court rules

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.2.4    one month ago
No he is being prosecuted for purchasing a gun when he was legally prohibited from doing so and for lying on a federal document.

So his 2nd Amendment rights have been stripped away from him as an American Citizen?

Drug user cannot be barred from owning guns, US court rules

 
 
 
George
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4.2.11  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.8    one month ago

Where did he say that? If you start out making a dishonest post about what someone said you have already lost.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.8    one month ago

Did I say anything to make you believe that?  I think people should tell the truth on any application and be held accountable if they don't.  Is there an issue with that?  Do you think there should be no limits as to who has guns?  No permits needed?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.12    one month ago

It will be fun to watch litigation titled Biden arguing to remove restrictions on gun ownership. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.14    one month ago

Must watch TV.  My gut feel, with absolutely nothing to back it is he will get a year in jail max.  As a first offender he may get less.  I would also guess if Biden loses he will pardon his son.  I would not have a major issue with that.  I don't always agree with who a president pardons but I am not going to go crazy over it.  It will be interesting if Biden wins the election if he would pardon his son, that could be dicey.  While I doubt it would happen I think it would be interesting if Joe stepped down from running so he could more easily pardon his son.  I also understand most of these types of cases don't go to trial because they are plea bargained out.  I have to wonder if any get jail time with the plea.  I am still not understanding why he chose to go to trial.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.15    one month ago

I agree with everything  but I expect him to pardon his son win or lose, especially after another likely conviction at his upcoming tax trial.    I can’t imagine  he’s going to serve out a second term and even if he were, he’ll never face voters again so there is  little downside to him personally, and that has always been what has  motivated Biden throughout his career.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.9    one month ago
He was prosecuted and convicted of lying on the documents.

He was prosecuted and convicted of lying on the documents.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.17    one month ago
He was prosecuted and convicted of lying on the documents.

Yet, if he had told the truth in that 1 single checkbox he would have lost his rights under the 2nd Amendment.  Correct?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.18    one month ago

Stop with the pathetic game.  You know as well as the rest of us the law steps in.  You don't like the law, then you need to bring that up with your "representative" in congress. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.20  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.19    one month ago
Stop with the pathetic game.

I am simply pointing out the 2nd Amendment gun rights advocates on NT are remarkably silent about him losing his ability to keep and bear arms.  If you are afraid to address that aspect of this issue, stop replying.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.20    one month ago
I am simply pointing out the 2nd Amendment gun rights advocates on NT are remarkably silent about him losing his ability to keep and bear arms.

Only remarkable due to your uninformed bias.  Even the NRA has had longstanding support for the federal bans on gun possession by illegal drug users and people convicted of drug-related felonies. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.20    one month ago
I am simply pointing out the 2nd Amendment gun rights advocates on NT are remarkably silent about him losing his ability to keep and bear arms. 

Much like you are remarkably silent about the law?  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.2.23  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.10    one month ago

Pay close attention

He lied on a federal form in the process of purchasing a gun and that is a felony

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.24  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.2.13    one month ago

I ran that question by my adult daughter. Her response was the only former addict was a deceased one. She considers herself a recovering drug addict and will be one till the day she dies. It is a ever constant struggle to maintain ones sobriety. I am very proud of my daughter who went cold turkey and kicked a years long crack habit and has been clean and sober for the last four years. She has been through Hell and clawed her way back out of the pit.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.2.25  afrayedknot  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.24    one month ago

“I am very proud of my daughter…”

As are we all.
Peace and perseverance. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.2.26  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.24    one month ago

Ed

She is correct and  you should be proud

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago
Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for his desire to use his 2nd Amendment rights.

What a ridiculous, false claim.

Perhaps go read the actual charges against Biden so your comments reflect an accuracy currently severely lacking.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.28  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.21    one month ago

Even the NRA has had longstanding support for the federal bans on gun possession by illegal drug users and people convicted of drug-related felonies. 

Go back and read my provided link about gun bans for addicts.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.29  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.22    one month ago
Much like you are remarkably silent about the law?

So silent that I provided a link???

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.30  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.2.23    one month ago
He lied on a federal form in the process of purchasing a gun and that is a felony

If he'd answered honestly he would have been denied his 2nd Amendment right.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.31  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.30    one month ago

That is freaking hilarious!

You just admitted that Hunter lied--as many of us already knew all along.

I am a little surprised you show so much disdain for the rule of law, though!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.32  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4.2.23    one month ago

Yeah, we know.

Funny how some don't seem to know what #34 was found guilty of, 34 times.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.33  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.32    one month ago

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Tessylo
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4.2.34  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.24    one month ago

So you understand that drug addiction doesn't define a person?

Hunter must have many sterling qualities, correct?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.35  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.34    one month ago
Hunter must have many sterling qualities, correct?

WHY "must" he?

What do you know of his "sterling qualities"?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.34    one month ago
Hunter must have many sterling qualities, correct?

He consoled his brother's widow and shared a house while cheating on her.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.37  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.33    one month ago

Well they say old soldiers never die and I guess that puts that to rest.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.38  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.37    one month ago

I guess I just will never understand the newfound leftist-style obsession with Eisenhower.

Actually, I am just a little surprised there is any time for that.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.39  George  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.34    one month ago
So you understand that drug addiction doesn't define a person?

Of course it defines a person. It defines them as a drug addict.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.40  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.28    one month ago

Pot and crack are two different things.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.41  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.40    one month ago
Pot and crack are two different things.

Addicts are addicts.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.42  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.41    one month ago

Some addictions are worse than others.

Being addicted to two cups of coffee in the morning or being addicted to watching a soap opera isn't on par with being addicted to crack cocaine.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.43  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.35    one month ago

I'll put my clean daughter up against a scum bag like Hunter Biden any day, but I may be just a tad biased. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.44  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.43    one month ago

I found it odd that anyone would actually compare a marijuana addiction to a crack addiction.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.45  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.43    one month ago

So will Jill and Joe, they love their son and will not abandon him in his time(s) of need.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.2.46  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.41    one month ago
Addicts are addicts.

Are you saying that pot is addictive?  As addictive as crack?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.47  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.45    one month ago

That's their business.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.48  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.45    one month ago

His whole life has been his time of need.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.49  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.46    one month ago
Are you saying that pot is addictive?

Are you trying to deflect?  I have said nothing about pot or crack.  Stay on topic.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.50  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.34    one month ago
Hunter must have many sterling qualities, correct?

Maybe, have you heard of any?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.51  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.50    one month ago

Hunter probably uses a sterling crack pipe./s

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.52  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.51    one month ago

Born with a silver 🥄 in his nose.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.53  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.49    one month ago
Are you trying to deflect?  I have said nothing about pot or crack. 

You didn’t but your link did, “Daniels had been arrested in April 2022 after law enforcement officers searched his car during a stop and found marijuana butts and two loaded firearms. The officers did not administer a drug test the night of the stop, but Daniels admitted that he was a frequent user of marijuana.

Stay on topic.

Reading is fundamental.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.54  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.53    one month ago

Thanks for pointing out the obvious and informing the poster what his link says!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.55  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.32    one month ago
Funny how some don't seem to know what #34 was found guilty of, 34 times.

This is new.  What was President Eisenhower convicted of?  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.56  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.55    one month ago

It’s very odd.  Eisenhower always seemed like one of our presidents with the most integrity. 
surprised I missed all the crime. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.57  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.56    one month ago

I missed it to.  In fact the world seems to have missed it.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.58  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.53    one month ago
You didn’t but your link did

My link said a lot of things that were not addressed in my comment.  It supported my comment not not the other way around.  Stop trying to deflect.  My comment had to to with addicts, that's it.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.59  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.58    one month ago

No deflection and your comment remains unsupported.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.60  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.47    one month ago

Obviously it's everyone's business.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.61  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.60    one month ago

No, it's not.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.62  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.61    4 weeks ago

Yes, it is, obviously

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.63  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.59    4 weeks ago
No deflection and your comment remains unsupported.

Then repeat my comment.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.64  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.63    4 weeks ago

Why waste everyone’s time?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.65  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.62    4 weeks ago

Obvious only to those who share your particular views, and many do not.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.66  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.64    4 weeks ago
Why waste everyone’s time?

Thanks for the confirmation.  I'm done I'm done with you.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5  Just Jim NC TttH    one month ago

Funny thing is, the 20 year possible sentence, which won't be handed down, was put in effect by the Biden/Harris team to crack (no pun) down on people who lied on applications. Ironic right? LMAO

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5    one month ago

Ahh! The 'future' can not be known. . . until it is present.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5    one month ago

Is it irony or is it karma or is it just what is?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6  Sean Treacy    one month ago

despite its best efforts, this DOJ convicted hunter of a felony.. a big thanks is owed to the irs whistleblowers, who exposed the efforts to protect biden

Whether you think the gun charge conviction today is just a red herring or not, just remember that none of the government’s shenanigans would have been exposed were it not for IRS whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler.

Before their disclosures, Biden appointees had talked David Weiss out of charging the President’s son, and all cases related to Hunter Biden (with THESE facts, now on display to the world!!) were languishing with no charges at all. Weiss had allowed the statute of limitations to lapse on the most serious charges, Hunter Biden engaging in a scheme to hide his foreign income from Burisma in 2014 and 2015—money that raised serious questions about just what he (and his family) did to earn it.

Once U.S. Attorney Weiss’s office knew the IRS whistleblowers were making disclosures to Congress, AUSA Lesley Wolf tried to contain the damage by offering Hunter Biden an agreement requiring no guilty plea. That was so ludicrous on its face Weiss made Wolf go back and at least require a misdemeanor guilty plea—the sweetheart plea deal DOJ rushed out to beat the House’s release of the IRS whistleblower interview transcripts. But thanks to those transcripts being provided to Judge Noreika, she saw right through DOJ’s charade to sweep this under the rug with Hunter Biden.

Today’s verdict wouldn’t have happened without the IRS whistleblowers, but it was for a fairly straightforward but relatively minor charge. The whistleblowers disclosed far more significant crimes the IRS and DOJ had once agreed to charge Hunter Biden with. They also provided documents to the House showing how Hunter Biden’s testimony to Congress was contradicted by the facts. All eyes should now be on David Weiss to see whether he follows through with the tax felony trial and whether he acts on the House’s perjury referral.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    one month ago

Some MAGAs are working hard to find a 'put down.'  Instead if taking the 'win' and moving on. It is what it is. (Although an appeal is potentially ahead for its own reasons.) If one needs to gloat at a 'lost soul's' internal battles with himself and the law. . . find something to kick and aim for its teeth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @6.1    one month ago

And some bariaites are upset that their attempts to protect Biden failed.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.2  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    one month ago

I guess. That would not be be, however. He did the crime, handle the consequences that result. Steady on.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7  seeder  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

bariaites

Is that a made up word or a serious typing error or what the hell does it mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7    one month ago

kind of my thoughts as well regarding whatever that 'word' might be

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    one month ago

A few minutes ago Dan Abrams said that he looked for other prosecutions that matched Hunter Bidens circumstances and couldnt find one. 

Lawfare ? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @8    one month ago

Thats funny.  Prosecutions for lying on forum 4473 aren’t that hard to find.

 

293 for 2019, the year Biden purchased his gun illegally, alone. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1    one month ago
Susan @Susan63027
Dan Abrams was saying on ABC News that he can not find another case of someone that did what Hunter did that was a 1 gun owner & the gun was never used in a crime be charged with a felony. What a big surprise.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one month ago

I saw what Abrams said on the news and what this twitter comment says is accurate. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one month ago

No ones whose dead  brother’s  wife/girlfriend who  threw away a gun  next to a school and blamed it on illegal aliens on a Tuesday in the fall has ever been charged before !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.3    one month ago
No ones whose dead  brother’s  wife/girlfriend who  threw away a gun  next to a school and blamed it on illegal aliens on a Tuesday in the fall has ever been charged before !

Sounds like something trump would say. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    one month ago

Maybe she is a fan.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
8.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    one month ago

Do you think that the law should remain as federal law, just not enforced?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.1.7  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.3    one month ago

From those circumstances. . . Hunter Biden seems to have been a 'hot mess.' Recreational drugs will do that too you. Your inhibitions go way down and the longer you take them. . . the longer you are open to 'suggestion' or acting uninhibited. Being the son of a Vice-president and sitting president cedes ground to 'play' that is golden. .. and reckless.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    one month ago

or like someone from Ferris Bueller's Day Off

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8.2  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @8    one month ago

The legal system is not getting into 'bad boy presidents and their misquided children' territory and it is 'shaken and stirred' by all the special considerations that are needed.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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8.3  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @8    one month ago

"Lawfare"

Interesting concept

I seem to remember that comment being made in other recent prosecutions and immediately being dismissed by the left.

I didn't believe it then and don't believe it now.

The law is on the books, he broke that law and after a fair trial, he was found guilty by a jury of his peers in Delaware (a home court advantage for the Biden's one would think if anything)

I am satisfied with tis verdict just as I was satisfied with another guilty verdict in a trial where "Lawfare" was claimed

The slap on the wrist he receives probably won't even hurt

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Also should recognize the gun shop owner who refused to turn over the paperwork when the secret service intervened and tried to confiscate the  paperwork from him in 2018.  

 
 

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