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Expanding the base - Trump in the Bronx

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  128 comments

Expanding the base - Trump in the Bronx
“He represents us, the blacks in this city and in the world. He’s a real Nelson Mandela,” Paget Jones, 45, of Harlem, told The Post outside the Crotona Park event.


First, I have to apologize to Donald Trump. He was right about going to the south Bronx. There he began appealing to people outside of his base. I was too concerned about the opposing mob that might present a problem. I forgot that there are those Trump supporters who show up in massive numbers wherever he goes. They more than outnumbered the anti-Trump protestors. Yesterday he even drew people from the south Bronx. Only 3,500 were permitted to enter the Bronx park, but the crowds outside the check-in gates well exceeded the capacity cap in hopes of watching the rare event of former President Trump finally holding a rally in New York. In this case a borough which is overwhelmingly Hispanic and Black, and with approximately one third of its residents living below the poverty line.


Trump began with "Hello to all the strong, hard-working American patriots right here in the Bronx." Within no time he was extending an olive branch to the state of New York:

"If I win in November, I'm going to call your mayor and your governor and I'm gonna say, 'I wanna help.'"

"Sadly, this is a city in decline," he declared. "I've never seen it like this. We have filthy encampments of drugged-out homeless people living in our places where we spent so much time with our children that they used to play, lunatics killing innocent bystanders by pushing them on the railroad tracks."

"We are going to turn New York City around," Trump said. "We're going to bring safety back to our streets, we're going to bring success back to our schools. We're going to bring prosperity back to every neighborhood in every borough of the greatest city of our land."

"We're going to make New York bigger, better and more beautiful than ever before, and that includes right here in the Bronx and it's going to be done and funded, starting on Jan. 20, directly from our great and beautiful White House," he added.


But Ruben Diaz, Sr., a conservative Democrat from the Bronx who represented the borough on the City Council and in the state Senate, came up onstage to laud Trump after his speech. Diaz has stirred controversy in New York with  homophobic remarks  and by  welcoming Sen. Ted Cruz  to the borough in 2016.

"As a Puerto Rican, as a Hispanic, I want to apologize to you for the conduct of Judge Juan Merchan," Diaz told Trump, referring to  the judge  in Trump's trial for allegedly falsifying business records to cover up payments to porn star Stormy Daniels.

Donald Trump makes pitch to cut into Democratic voting blocs at rally (usatoday.com)


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Biden held a dinner in honor of Kenya, but the night was also meant to rally Democratic supporters. He plans to  will designate Kenya

The Supreme Court allowed South Carolina Republicans to keep a state voting map that some felt gave too much power to white voters.

Voters in Portland, Ore., this week ousted woke mayor Mike Schmidt. 

Israel said it recovered the bodies of hostages overnight in northern Gaza.

The U.S. military has delivered aid to Gaza through a temporary pier. But aid groups have struggled to distribute the supplies as "the Palestinian people" have stopped and looted the trucks.


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he House of Representatives advanced a bill Thursday to repeal a Washington, D.C. law that allows noncitizens to vote in local elections. 52 Democrats joined Republicans on the measure, with 143 Democrats voting against it, for a final 262 to 143 vote.






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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Good morning.

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On their way to the Bronx rally.

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For my liberal friends who try not to let politics get the better of them, remember the words of Bill Maher:  "Woke is not an extension of liberalism, it is the opposite of liberalism."

Fox News dominated late-night ratings this week as  Gutfeld!  beat out  The Late Show with Stephen Colbert  and  Jimmy Kimmel Live . On Monday, the show saw its highest ratings ever with  Bill Maher  in his first-ever appearance on the program.

Gutfeld! Posts Its Highest-Rated Broadcast Ever — With Bill Maher As Guest (msn.com)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

You knot that picture is going to trigger a lot of people.  Our left leaning "friends" are of the mindset that blacks can't support anybody but a democrat.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1    3 weeks ago

I think they are in for a surprise.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

Where are these massive numbers of alleged supporters of the former 'president'????

Anyone who would compare the utter failure of a human being aka, the former 'president' to Nelson Mandela is brain dead fucking moron.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    3 weeks ago
Where are these massive numbers of alleged supporters of the former 'president'????

You'll find out in November

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

You sure will

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
Where are these massive numbers of alleged supporters of the former 'president'????
You'll find out in November

Reminds me of a quote from a famous yogi master:

Prediction is difficult--especially about the future!

Heh :-)

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Krishna
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1.2.4  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.2.3    3 weeks ago
Reminds me of a quote from a famous yogi master: Prediction is difficult--especially about the future!

No, not Truman.! The yoga master I was referring to is Yogi Berra!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

Folks forget that alleged high ratings does not equate to truth or decency or integrity such as any faux news talking head

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago


Rep. Crockett: "I currently hold an honorary doctorate; I also hold a juris doctorate. I also hold a bachelor’s. I also technically hold the rank of lieutenant colonel in the Civil Air Patrol, and I actually practiced law for almost two decades, in addition to serving on various boards, in addition to being a prior state lawmaker"

When you have to tell people how intelligent you are, you probably aren't.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 weeks ago
When you have to tell people how intelligent you are, you probably aren't.

You dont say !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 weeks ago

At his worst he is a zillion times smarter than Biden or Newscum for that matter.

The key word was "probably." Trump is definitely intelligent.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 weeks ago

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It's unreal, the former 'president' is held to no standards whatsoever by the maga cult

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

No.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    3 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3  Just Jim NC TttH    3 weeks ago
Biden held a dinner in honor of Kenya,

And guess who made a surprise appearance.......................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3    3 weeks ago

His mentor....the great divider

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

The contrast between the candidates public appearances yesterday shows why trump is winning.  Biden looks dazed and confused, trump actually has a pulse  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 weeks ago
 Biden looks dazed and confused

Now the White House is out correcting his speeches:

White House officials went into cleanup mode after President Biden delivered a gaffe-riddled speech to the NAACP in Detroit Sunday — making a whopping nine corrections to the formal transcript.

The changes fixed both trips of Biden’s tongue — such as calling Capitol rioters “irrectionists” — and flagrant retellings of history, like claiming he was still vice president during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Here are the nine adjustments that were made in the  official transcript :

Vice president during the pandemic

During his opening, Biden conveyed his “love” for Detroit, before slipping up and suggesting he was the vice president during the outbreak of COVID-19.

“And when I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic [recession], and what happened was Barack said to me, ‘Go to Detroit and help fix it,'” the transcript said.

Honored to receive this organization

Part of the impetus for Biden’s speech was to accept a lifetime achievement award from the Detroit branch of the NAACP, but he mangled that part during his acceptance.

“Folks, I’m humbled to receive this organization [award], which defines the character and consequence of what we do,” Biden said.

‘Truly inspiresing’

Biden’s swing through Detroit came on the heels of his commencement address at Atlanta’s Morehouse College, an all-male historically black institution that bestowed an honorary degree on him.

“It was truly inspiresing [inspiring]: over 400 young Black men who will do extraordinary things,” the transcript said.

$800,000 in health care premium savings see also editorial  Biden’s divisive, defeatist HBCU speech proves he has nothing to offer black voters

Back when Democrats had control of Congress, Biden was able to push through an expansion of subsidies in the Affordable Care Act. The administration estimates that can save families up to $800 annually, but Biden mangled it and said $800,000.

“I protected and expanded the Affordable Care Act, saving millions of families $800,000 in prem- — $8,000 [$800] in — a year in premiums,” the president said.
Fighting landlords who keep rents down

While touting efforts to lower the cost of living, the president inadvertently claimed to be fighting unscrupulous landlords who are trying to keep rents down.

“We’re cracking down on corporate landlords who [to] keep rents down,” Biden said.

Black women ‘have nearly three times more likely to die’

In another verbal flub, Biden swapped in the word “have” when he meant to say “are.”

“He [Trump] not only denies reproductive freedom but worsens the mortality rate for Black moms, who have [are] nearly three times more likely to die from pregnancy complications than a white woman,” the president declared.

‘Irrectionists’

Some politicians have  mangled the word “insurrection ” (which Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer once called an “erection”), but Biden had a unique fumble on that front.

“He [Trump] calls the irrectionists [insurrectionists] who stormed Capitol Hill ‘patriots.’ He says, if re-elected, he wants, quote, ‘every’ one of them pardoned,” the transcript noted.

‘Bloodshed’

Back in March, former President Donald Trump  warned there would be a “bloodbath”  in the auto industry if he loses the 2024 election. Biden misquoted him as saying “bloodshed.”

“But that’s not Donald Trump. Donald Trump has said, if he loses again in November, there will be, quote, ‘bloodshed‘ [‘bloodbath’]. What in God’s name are we talking about here?” Biden said, according to the transcript.

NAAC

And to cap things off, Biden butchered the very name of the organization to which he was speaking.

“Earlier this month, I posthumously awarded Medgar Evers the Presidential Medal of Freedom, our nation’s highest civilian honor. His spirit endures. The NAAC [NAACP] spirit endures,” the transcript said.

The commander-in-chief, who has been open about growing up with a stutter, has been no stranger to rhetorical doozies during some of his public outings.

Between the start of the year and late last month, the White House made at least 148 adjustments to transcripts of his remarks,  according to an analysis  by the Daily Caller.

Ahead of Biden’s Nov. 5 rematch with Trump, the issue of age has loomed large. Biden is already the oldest president in US history and would be 86 at the end of a second four-year term.

Trump and Biden are slated to square off in a CNN-hosted debate on June 27 in Atlanta.

White House makes nine brutal corrections to Biden’s NAACP Detroit speech (msn.com)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    3 weeks ago

Donald Trump tried to steal the 2020 election and is a mentally ill (malignant narcissism) serial liar and crook. 

I assume all this means that if Biden drops out you will endorse the new Democratic nominee. 

You couldnt still be planning to promote Trump in that event could you?

You have tried over the years to say you are not a Trump guy. But your comments belie that every day. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

I have a question for you John:

If Donald Trump wins the 2024 election, will you accept the results?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

I will accept that he won the election.  There is nothing in this universe that would make me accept the worst human being in American political history as a "leader". 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

Oh I have to apologize. I thought I was responding to Sean when I said 

"You have tried over the years to say you are not a Trump guy. But your comments belie that every day."

You have always been an ultra sincere Trumpster.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    3 weeks ago
I will accept that he won the election.

That is good John.

There are rumors that democrats are considering taking away the delegates if he should win.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago
You have always been an ultra sincere Trumpster.  

Yes sir. I like him a lot.

And as Bill Maher recently pointed out: even those who don't like him will vote for him because he is a bulwark against the radical left.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

So the real answer is no.     Got it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago

And you have always been a hyper biased partisan against Trump.     That and a few bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.7    3 weeks ago
So the real answer is no.

I would rather live in a shack and eat worms for the rest of my life than vote for Donald trump. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.8    3 weeks ago
That and a few bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

Not in Biden's economy.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    3 weeks ago
There is nothing in this universe that would make me accept the worst human being in American political history as a "leader". 

So you are good with the failure that is in the WH right now?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.9    3 weeks ago

That’s luxury.    

I would rather live in a used refrigerator box, be forced to crawl through molten broke glass and eat a handful of gravel for meals than vote Biden.    I would rather be forced to read the the drivel here 24/7 than vote for Biden

I would rather be a card carrying Democrat than vote for Biden.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.9    3 weeks ago
I would rather live in a shack and eat worms for the rest of my life

I guess that explains the Biden election.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

like this summary too:


The population in the Bronx is predominantly black and Hispanic. Like most of America’s urban centers, the Bronx suffers from disproportionate amounts of crime, poverty, drug use and gangs. With that in mind, let me tell you what did NOT happen at this rally:

1. Trump did not put on an affected, fake accent of an A.M.E. Zion minister or Chi Chi Rodriguez ( See : Hillary). He was simply Trump, without airs or any patronizing words or thoughts.

2. He did not tell the people of the Bronx that they were victims. He told them that they were powerful and could solve their community’s problems themselves

. 3. He did not demonize any groups of Americans as the evil “Other.” Yes, he criticized the failed policies of Democrats and poked fun at their foibles, but he reminded everyone that we are all Americans first, from coast to coast.

4. He did not promise to solve the problems of the Bronx with handouts or wealth redistribution. He merely promised that he would help set the national economic conditions so the community itself could solve its own problems through jobs, business and education.

He promised empowerment, not victimhood.

Contrast all of this with what a Democrat would say under the same circumstances. Heck, contrast it with the vile speech of hate and victimhood Biden gave at Morehouse College this past weekend. The difference is stunning. What scares Democrats about this rally is that it shows them that the people whose votes they have taken for granted for many decades are starting to leave the Democrat Plantation of Victimhood in favor of the uplifting, empowering message of Donald Trump and his aspiration to make America a place that is “great again” for ALL Americans.

nice to see a canidate campaign with a positive message and not pander with freebies and race baiting.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    3 weeks ago

It was a very unifying speech. At one point Trump said, as only Trump can say it:  It makes no difference if you are black, white, Asian or whatever the hell you may be ....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

I just hope he wasn't the one who fixed the sign to the podium.

 
 
 
George
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6  George    3 weeks ago

Trump does a campaign stop in the Bronx, Biden holds one for Kenya......How desperate is Biden getting for votes?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6    3 weeks ago

He had to go to New Hampshire!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 weeks ago
Biden held a dinner in honor of Kenya

And look who showed up unannounced.  

Coincidence?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    3 weeks ago

Like it says in the article you submitted, Obama's father was born in Kenya and right now Biden desperately needs Obama.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    3 weeks ago

800

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

That question answers itself: Norway isn't a shithole country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    3 weeks ago
Coincidence?  

was this a coincidence ?

 
 
 
George
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7.2.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    3 weeks ago

Hey look an off topic deflection.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    3 weeks ago

Bill Clinton practically lived on Epstein's island. 

We were told by democrats that policy is what counts.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

John fears a referendum election on Biden's radical policies; thus he has to try and smear Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.3    3 weeks ago

I was merely pointing out the stupidity of asking if a natural association of two people could ever be described as a "coincidence". 

Biden and Obama , Trump and ....whoever.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.4    3 weeks ago

Try to bear in mind that there were a multitude of people who, one way or another were involved with Epstein, for various reasons, but the most involved was Bill Clinton.

I believe Obama was already in Kenya when Joe got there.  Joe needs all the help he can get right now.

 
 
 
George
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7.2.6  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.5    3 weeks ago

What they never mention is when trump saw epstein hitting on an underage girl he banned him from Mara Lago, The clintons invited him and Bills Girlfriend ghislaine maxwell to Chelsea's wedding.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    3 weeks ago

And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have another example of a pathetic deflection.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.3    3 weeks ago

He's been trying to do that for 7 years.  And for 7 years, he's alomost at a Joe Biden level of failure.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.4    3 weeks ago
I was merely pointing out the stupidity of asking if a natural association of two people could ever be described as a "coincidence". 

What you're doing is trying to deflect.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @7.2.6    3 weeks ago

How could I forget that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.2    3 weeks ago

Why then are there never photos Clinton and epstein together ever while there are many many many many of the former 'president' pedophile with his fellow pedophile epstein????????

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.2    3 weeks ago

That's a lie regarding Clinton while we know that the former 'president' and epstein both raped many young girls, tag teaming them 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.11    3 weeks ago
Why then are there never photos Clinton and epstein together

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.2.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.12    3 weeks ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.12    3 weeks ago

We know because you just told us.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.15    3 weeks ago

former 'president' #45

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.16    3 weeks ago

and epstein raped many young girls

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.2.18  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.2    3 weeks ago
Bill Clinton practically lived on Epstein's island. 

Cool, so don't vote for him... Trump's name was all over the flight logs to pedo island, and you'll vote for him. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @7.2.18    3 weeks ago

The photos of Clinton provided by the UK's version of a trashy tabloid mean nothing - and don't show him 'partying' (being pedophiles) with epstein like former 'president' #45 - lots of folks did business with the pedophile without knowing he was a pedophile, unlike former 'president' #45 - Clinton was involved in philanthropic endeavors, not pedophilic, like former 'president' #45

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    3 weeks ago

It's pretty obvious that this is Obama's third term. He's likely manipulating the strings of his puppet; old, slow, Joe.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

It sure as heck looks like most of the people there were white.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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8.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @8    3 weeks ago

Appears to be a lot of selective editing of those unverified shots

I don't know John., looks like there's a lot of Blacks and Hispanics in that crowd.

The Polls Don't Lie: Thousands of People Show Up to Trump Rally In Deep-Blue State (townhall.com)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @8.1    3 weeks ago
The Polls Don't Lie: Thousands of People Show Up to Trump Rally In Deep-Blue State (townhall.com)

The New York Times says the crowd was in the neighborhood of 1,000. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

Looked to be 999 more than AOC had at her counter "rally".

 
 
 
George
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8.1.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

How is it that anyone is still using the times as a source? because they reinforce the lies we want to believe?

NY1 said the crowd was in the 1000's, not singular but plural.

NY1 reporters on scene said the turnout was in “in the thousands.” Trump draws large crowd at rally in the Bronx (ny1.com)

Axios reporting:

The unusual sight of Trump speaking to several thousand people in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood in deep blue New York is a sign of the  realignment  happening between the two parties. Trump's Bronx rally looked very different than the usual MAGA crowd (axios.com)

Since only 3500 were allowed in, and there was still supporters outside.........The NY times once again proves itself to be nothing more than a lying piece of propaganda.

Only 3,500 were permitted to enter the Bronx gathering, but the crowds outside the check-in gates well exceeded the capacity cap in hopes of watching the rare event. While there was no immediate crowd estimate from the NYPD Thousands of Trump fanatics swarm Bronx park for his first NY rally since 2016: ‘He’s a real Nelson Mandela’ (msn.com)
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  George @8.1.3    3 weeks ago
Only 3,500 were permitted to enter the Bronx gathering, but the crowds outside the check-in gates well exceeded the capacity cap in hopes of watching the rare event. While there was no immediate crowd estimate from the NYPD Thousands of Trump fanatics swarm Bronx park for his first NY rally since 2016: ‘He’s a real Nelson Mandela’

That quote is from the New York Post, one of the most right wing newspapers in America

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    3 weeks ago
That quote is from the New York Post, one of the most right wing newspapers in America

That's a weird way to admit your pushing fiction.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    3 weeks ago
he New York Times says the crowd was in the neighborhood of 1,000. 

So that was a lie, then?

 
 
 
George
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8.1.7  George  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    3 weeks ago

So is it better or worse than the times who have been caught lying repeatedly? and who are an extreme left wing paper.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.4    3 weeks ago

Why would all of those people be outside the gates?  Because they weren't there for the rally.

Only about 800 were there for the actual rally - probably bussed in and or paid for their attendance

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Melvin Howard, 65, a machinist who lives near Crotona Park, said he wanted to make clear his disapproval of the rally being held in his neighborhood and the views of the people attending it.

“These people shouldn’t be here in the South Bronx,” he said, pointing to a large number of white people in the crowd in a borough where the white population is less than 10 percent. “They are here to steal our Black votes. I don’t recognize any of them.

At a Trump Rally in the Bronx, Chants of ‘Build the Wall’ - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 weeks ago

I don't think that Trump will "steal" any black votes. Minorities are leaving the party of lies and broken promises in record numbers to rally around Trump.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @9.1    3 weeks ago
in record numbers

... so, more than 10?

 
 
 
George
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9.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 weeks ago
“They are here to steal our Black votes.

That may be the dumbest thing i have heard, Does Melvin think that his neighbors are stupid? how exactly does a white person steal black vote? Melvin sounds like a racist or a moron, generally those traits go together, so he may be both.

 
 
 
devangelical
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9.2.1  devangelical  replied to  George @9.2    3 weeks ago
a racist or a moron, generally those traits go together,

maga ...

 
 
 
George
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9.2.2  George  replied to  devangelical @9.2.1    3 weeks ago

Actually a typical democrat nowadays. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.2.3  bugsy  replied to  George @9.2    3 weeks ago
how exactly does a white person steal black vote?

According to most liberals, blacks don't even know how to get an ID to vote.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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9.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  bugsy @9.2.3    3 weeks ago

Plus if they vote for Trump, they ain’t black, according to shotgun Joe

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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9.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 weeks ago
“They are here to steal our Black votes.   

So he thinks they are going to vote Democrat style?  Just come into an area they don't reside and vote?

I don’t recognize any of them

Melvin needs to get a grip.  I don't think the even was restricted to just people who live in the Bronx.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @9    3 weeks ago
They are here to steal our Black votes.

A fitting  description of the racist democratic worldview. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

This is the crowd at Trumps speech in the Bronx

800

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

That very small crowd included many many many whites. 

here is a video from New York news that objectively portrays what it was 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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10.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    3 weeks ago

Notice in your NYN clip that there were many MANY people not at the stage that were still there for the event...........

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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10.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

And at what point in time was this taken? 

Was it when the gates opened? 

Was it when he was on stage? 

Were these people still hanging around for a chance to shake his hand?  

Shit, for all we know this is a photo from a mime convention.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

The images were captured by the ABC7 helicopter and showed a large crowd of supporters creating a 'U' shape around the podium in the middle of the grassy hill within the barriers. 

The permit for the rally in the outer borough park only allowed for 3,500 to attend.  

But many of the supporters who showed up for a chance to see the Republican presidential nominee were unable to get into the event and remained standing behind the barricades at the bottom of the hill, making it hard to estimate just how many MAGA die-hards really showed up.

The Trump campaign in a victory lap over the success of the event on Thursday declared 25,000 loyal Trump fans flocked to see the ex-president speak despite it taking place in one of the bluest districts in the country.

Aerial shot of Trump's rally in the Bronx reveals true size of crowd (msn.com)

Why John, don't tell me you left out the commentary!

 
 
 
bugsy
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10.3.1  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.3    3 weeks ago
Why John, don't tell me you left out the commentary!

You don't have to ask why.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.3    3 weeks ago

None of that is true -  no one was prevented from attending the rally

 
 
 
Gsquared
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10.4  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

It looks like about 1,000 people at most in that photo.   The close-up videos of the crowd shows them to be about 99% white Trumpists who were bussed in from other states.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @10.4    3 weeks ago

Wow, such deduction to be bussed from out of state to a Bronx rally.  I’ll bet Biden sees the same.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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10.4.2  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.4.1    3 weeks ago

That was from media reports.  Take it up with them.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.4.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @10.4.2    3 weeks ago
Take it up with them.

Are you enthusiastic enough to be bussed across state lines to attend a Biden rally?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.4.4  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @10.4    3 weeks ago

President Biden doesn't need to hold 'rallies' or bus in 'supporters' from other states or pay black folks to say they love him

 
 
 
MrFrost
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10.5  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

Should be noted that the max capacity for that park is 3,000 people. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.5.1  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @10.5    3 weeks ago

There were actually only about 800 mostly white magas

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.5.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @10.5.1    3 weeks ago
There were actually only about 800 mostly white magas


Trump took the stage in Crotona Park in front of several thousand people at around 6:30 p.m.”

More CBS lies:  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.5.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @10.5.1    3 weeks ago

bussed in and/or compensated for their 'support' of the former 'president'

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.5.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @10.5.3    3 weeks ago

How many ride a long bus ride to attend a Biden rally?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Jeanine Pirro
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Donald Trump takes his campaign into deep blue Bronx where republicans haven’t dared to go for decades. The estimated 25,000 people there who were black Hispanic Asian welcomed his message to fight, inflation, migration, and crime. I doubt Joe Biden could get 2,500 people, let alone 25,000. What do you think? https:// foxnews.com/politics/trump -vows-save-deep-blue-new-york-city-masive-historic-bronx-rally
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That lady needs to stop drinking so early in the morning. 
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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11.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @11    3 weeks ago

Your arguments are pathetically weak and not based on reality.

 
 
 
JBB
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11.1.1  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @11.1    3 weeks ago

Speaking of pathetically weak, did you see Trump's Bronx speech? The MAGA walked out half way through it!

He Bombed!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

Unless you were there, you have no clue who did what..........except what you have read here which is quite a bunch of crap observations

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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11.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

His speech was resounding success, and the whiny race baiting lefties can't stand it!

Rep. Ritchie Torres Plays the Race Card on Trump Bronx Rally and Gets BURIED by the Receipts – Twitchy

 
 
 
Sparty On
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11.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Greg Jones @11.1.3    3 weeks ago

Yep, in a deep blue state no less.

Dumbo would be lucky to draw a 1000.    Most of which would likely paid to be there.    The people hating on this are such strange creatures.

 
 
 
bugsy
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11.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @11.1    3 weeks ago
not based on reality.

Not necessarily the first time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.2    3 weeks ago

'bunch of crap observations'

Ya!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

more lies

Trump vows to 'save' deep-blue New York City in massive, historic Bronx rally

25,000 supporters of the former president descended on Crotona Park, Trump's campaign said

Trump vows to 'save' deep-blue New York City in massive, historic Bronx rally | Fox News
 
 
 
JBB
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12.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @12    3 weeks ago

Nowhere near 25,000 attended. The venue max is half that and it was only half full. The best estimate was 7,500...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @12.1    3 weeks ago

Less than a thousand, with a few token black folks.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @12.1.1    3 weeks ago

I wonder how much the former 'president' paid those token supporters to say they supported it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @12.1    3 weeks ago

That aerial photo doesnt show 7,500 people. Not even close. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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13  Nerm_L    3 weeks ago

Oh, look, green shoots and brown shats.  Where's the resident curmudgeon?  Seems rather too obvious that more is going on than just Trump.

You know, the occupancy limit of the park is 3,500 people.  Why?  Maybe that's some of New York's famous broken window policies to lower the body count.  Who knows for sure, it's New York after all.  And those with the newly stained frillies want to gaslight us into believing the reported turnout is phony.  The unbiased liberal press tries to rig the news the same way they rig elections. 

Looks like those of the newly immigrated majority just don't understand the American tradition of gaslighting in today's civil rights movement.  Democrats' efforts at DEI indoctrinated assimilation has been working as well as the rest of their academic political indoctrination.  Some of these illegal immigrants are better educated than many in the grievance class of Americans.  It's a helluva note when housing illegal immigrants gentrifies a neighborhood. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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14  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
“Donald Trump can now say he held a rally in the South Bronx, home to immigrants and minority communities, and that it was well attended. It’s just not clear that the people who attended were from the Bronx. The campaign controlled who got in and the campaign of course, picked only supporters,” Dolan revealed. “Trump’s motorcade arrived in Crotona Park tonight. The crowd surged to get a look at him, more like a pop star than a politician. Not everyone wants a pop star for President.” Trump’s Bronx rally attendance claim mocked as aerial images show a different story (msn.com)
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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14.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

GOTyOLwWkAAK9c4?format=jpg&name=small

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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15  Hal A. Lujah    3 weeks ago

I hired a guy to do some home improvements a couple weeks ago.  He was a really nice guy, spoke just enough English to communicate, could barely write in English, but did great work.  None of his crew spoke any English.  He told me he has seven kids from his first wife and two from his second wife.  I can’t imagine that he has citizenship, but that’s not something I would ever ask.  I was blown away when he arrived on his last day finishing up with a fucking maga hat on.  We are in strange times.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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15.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @15    3 weeks ago

He, and many thousands of Hispanics, know the truth about Biden and the Dems. Which is that lefties don't care about them. What exactly has Biden and his lackeys done for minorities in the last four years except tell more and break promises they never intended to keep in the first place.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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15.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @15.1    3 weeks ago

______ wants him and his large family deported back to a dangerous country with no employment opportunities.

A.  Trump

B.  Biden

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @15    3 weeks ago

He is most likely what is known as a legal immigrant.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
15.2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.2    3 weeks ago

Maybe he wears the hat to deter trumptards from harassing him?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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16  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
Honestly, this is the most pathetic Trump rally fluffing we’ve seen since last week, when his campaign pretended that 100,000 people showed up to hear him  babble about Hannibal Lecter  on a beach in New Jersey, without mention that approximately 99,990 of them were  not there for Trump , but rather because it was a beach in May.

Oh hey hey! Remember when Trump sent … was it Sean Spicer? … out to lie with a straight face about the size of his inauguration? It was a whole thing!

The local ABC news station in New York City had an amusing segment with a somewhat  harsher assessment of the rally’s turnout :

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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16.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 weeks ago

Judge for yourself:

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Tessylo
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16.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 weeks ago

I love that first woman who was talking about the former 'president'

FIRST OF ALL, HE'S A BIG FAT BIGOT

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
16.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @16.2    3 weeks ago

Then the second person, regarding the former 'president'

HE'S A CROOK, A LIAR, AND A CHEAT

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
16.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @16    3 weeks ago

Meh, Trump is known to exaggerate.    He’s not the only one.    Trump is a rookie compared to Biden.    Bidens exaggerations and plagiarisms are copious and expansive.    Spanning decades.    People forget he got broomed from one his earlier runs for President for just that reason.

76th of 85 ….. top 90% of his class …..

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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17  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Per Schumer,Democrats are now explicitly running on giving citizenship to all 20 million illegals. That's how they plan to expand their base. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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17.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Sean Treacy @17    3 weeks ago

It's not working for them. The larger electorate is not woke, but they are gradually waking up to the travesty of the Biden administration

 
 

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