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GOP Sen. Mitt Romney says Biden should have pardoned Trump

  

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Via:  george  •  one week ago  •  26 comments

By:   NBC News

GOP Sen. Mitt Romney says Biden should have pardoned Trump
Sen. Mitt Romney said President Joe Biden should have pardoned Donald Trump and pressured New York prosecutors not to pursue the hush money trial against the former president.

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May 15, 2024, 6:22 PM UTCBy Summer Concepcion and Stephanie Ruhle

Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, argued that President Joe Biden should have pardoned Donald Trump after the Justice Department brought indictments against the former president and pressured New York prosecutors not to pursue Trump's ongoing hush money trial.

In an exclusive interview on MSNBC's "The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle," Romney expressed his dismay in response to Republican lawmakers, including the presumptive Republican presidential nominee's vice presidential prospects, rallying to Trump's defense outside of the Manhattan courthouse where Trump's hush money trial is taking place.

"How does that make you feel about Republicans?" Ruhle asked Romney.

Romney, a vocal critic of Trump, said, "I think it's a terrible fault, for our country to see people attacking our legal system — that's an enormous mistake," he said. "I think it's also demeaning for people to quite, apparently, try and run for vice president by donning the red tie and standing outside the courthouse and it's just— I felt awkward."

The Utah Republican argued that Biden should have pardoned Trump when the Justice Department announced charges against him and that the current president "made an enormous error" by not pressuring New York prosecutors to drop their case against Trump. (Presidents can only pardon in federal cases).

"He should have fought like crazy to keep this prosecution from going forward," Romney said, referring to Biden. "It was a win-win for Donald Trump."

Pressed by Ruhle whether that is Biden's job to pardon Trump, Romney said he believes that Biden should have taken a cue from former President Lyndon B. Johnson, saying that the president could have stepped in and urged New York prosecutors to drop the case.

"I've been around for a while, if LBJ had been president, and he didn't want something like this to happen, he'd have been all over that prosecutor saying, 'You better not bring that forward or I'm gonna drive you out of office,'" he said.

Ruhle then noted that Romney supports having separate but equal branches of government.

"I do. ... I mean, you may disagree with this, but had I been President Biden, when the Justice Department brought on indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him ... President Trump. Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned a little guy."

House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., and Trump's potential vice presidential picks issued public remarks in front of the Manhattan courthouse where Trump is required to attend court proceedings in the hush money trial against him, expressing their support and loyalty for him as the trial limits his time on the campaign trail. The potential VP picks, which include Ohio Sen. JD Vance and former Republican presidential primary candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, have echoed, without evidence, Trump's accusations of the trial being a Democrat-led effort to interfere with his campaign.

Biden and Trump on Wednesday agreed to participate in general election debates in June and September, at least the first of which will not have a live audience. Asked whether debates matter today and if he thinks it would impact votes, Romney, who unsuccessfully ran for president against Barack Obama in 2012, said he has "low expectations" for Biden but "much higher expectations" about Trump.

"The image that comes to mind is those two old guys on the Muppets, you know, that sat in the back that — Statler and Waldorf — that comes to mind, but I actually think there'll be a huge audience for these debates," he said. "I think people have very low expectations as to what President Biden will do. I think they have much higher expectations about President Trump and his competitiveness."

Romney added that he has had "good exchanges" with Biden and that Trump "seems energetic and forceful" during his rallies, but he's unsure about what to expect when they go head to head during debates.

"You got a cheering crowd and you got teleprompters you could read, so how will they do in person?" Romney said, referring to presidential campaign rallies. "I don't know the answer to that, but I think America will be watching."

Summer Concepcion

Summer Concepcion is a politics reporter for NBC News.

Stephanie Ruhle

Stephanie Ruhle is host of "The 11th Hour" on MSNBC.

Jesse Rodriguez contributed.


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George
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1  seeder  George    one week ago

I wonder if our leftist friends still love Mitt now?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1  Ronin2  replied to  George @1    one week ago

They never loved him.

He was just convenient to push their TDS driven narrative.

Now that he has "turned" expect them to drag the "dog in cage on roof of car" articles; and companies that his asset stripping bought tested on animals. 

If he was smart he would have kept his mouth shut. It isn't like he will ever be a member of the US government again.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    one week ago
e was just convenient to push their TDS driven narrative.

He's back to being a Nazi.

Once he's safely dead they can start whining about how there's "no decent Republicans like Romney" anymore. Just like Goldwater.  Democrats loved him once he was safely dead. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    one week ago

That is true.

Democrats and leftists are pining for the party of Reagan now.

If there is ever another Republican like Reagan that comes to prominence he will be vilified the same way Reagan was when he was alive.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     one week ago

See what wearing that fancy underwear to bed does do you Mitt? You lose your mind in the folds.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @2    one week ago

And there she blows!

Didn't take long for someone to attack his religion. 

How utterly predictable.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @2.1    one week ago

I'm delighted that you came to the defense, I would not have expected less.

When MItt and the gang stop with the Laminites BS I'll stop until then, stand by, Ronin.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @2    one week ago

the white horse prophecy turned up lame. he should go find a mackerel snapper cemetery and re-baptize some dead people...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    one week ago

Biden, if he were a stand up guy, should absolutely pardon Trump for mishandling classified documents, since his own DOJ gave him a pass for the exact same crime. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago

Not just Brandon got a pass; but his ghost writer as well. Who not only had possession of classified evidence that Brandon gave him for his book; but destroyed evidence as well.

Seems that Clinton, Brandon, Obama, and their satellites can mishandle and hold classified information for years; but not Trump. 

  

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1    one week ago

oh look, a spring blizzard of false equivalencies has begun ...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    one week ago

Only false to those that don't believe in the Constitution or law.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1.3  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @3.1.1    one week ago
oh look, a spring blizzard of false equivalencies has begun ..

It looks like a complete white out.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @3.1.3    one week ago

almost like their party...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago

pardons are for the guilty. good luck getting trump to admit he's guilty of anything...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @3.2    one week ago

No Democrat will ever be pardon. 

You would have to get their ass charged and dragged into a court of law first. Just ask Brandon, Hunter, Hillary, Bill, and Obama.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    one week ago

please be coherent if you expect a reply, thanks.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.1    one week ago

thanks for the edit...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    one week ago

Doesn't one have to be convicted of a crime before a pardon is granted?

And please don't throw Ford and Nixon in my face. That was a dirty deal

 
 
 
George
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4.1  seeder  George  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    one week ago
Doesn't one have to be convicted of a crime before a pardon is granted?

No, The president can pardon anyone at any time after a crime has been committed, he cannot pardon someone for future crimes that they haven't committed yet.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  George @4.1    one week ago
after a crime has been committed

please state what crime(s) you think trump has committed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    one week ago

Donald Trump wouldnt piss on Mitt Romney if his coiffed hair was on fire. 

Romney lives in a dream like alternate reality.  He seems to think that Trump's political prospects would have been lessened if he was pardoned. 

In reality if that happened Trump would have claimed total victory and it wouldnt have effected him politically one iota. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6  TᵢG    one week ago

Politically, Romney is probably correct.   Morally, ethically, legally, and for the good of the nation, Trump should be held accountable for trying to steal the election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   That is a horrible precedent that will continue to bring harm to this nation if Trump is never held accountable.

Given Romney's argument, I can see how it would have been beneficial for Biden to actively eliminate lawsuits on Trump but leave the Jan 6th and classified documents lawsuits stand.   And of those two, the Jan 6th lawsuit (which essentially includes GA) is substantially more important.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @6    one week ago
"Trump should be held accountable for trying to steal the election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement".   
Yeah, but there is no credible evidence of his having done those things. 
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    one week ago

Maybe not but it would make a great bumper sticker.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.2  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @6    one week ago

a pardon for trump only after agreeing to plead guilty to every outstanding charge on every indictment. agreement to forsake every and all post presidential perks, such as retirement pay and allowances, secret service protection, his presidential library, any official viewing on government property or a state funeral. agreement to immediately drop out of the POTUS race prior to the pardon, signing an official document and posting a performance bond representing the value of all his assets to never serve in any government job, appointment, or elected office in the US again.

 
 

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