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GOP bill adding citizenship question to 2030 census passes House without a single Democrat

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  67 comments

By:   Story by Elizabeth Elkind

GOP bill adding citizenship question to 2030 census passes House without a single Democrat
"Though commonsense dictates that only citizens should be counted for apportionment purposes, illegal aliens have nonetheless recently been counted toward the final tallies that determine how many House seats each state is allocated and the number of electoral votes it will wield in presidential elections," Edwards said during debate on the bill. "And since the illegal alien population is not evenly distributed throughout the nation, American citizens in some states are losing representation...

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T he House of Representatives passed a bill Wednesday evening to add a citizenship question to the next U.S. census, with zero Democrats voting in favor.

"If you are an illegal immigrant, you should not be represented in the U.S. Congress," House Majority Whip Tom Emmer, R-Minn., told Fox News Digital after the vote. "It’s a shame that House Democrats are allowing their open-borders agenda to get in the way of common sense."

The legislation is called the Equal Representation Act, led by Rep. Chuck Edwards, R-N.C. In addition to including a question on citizenship status on the census, the bill would also exclude non-citizens from the population count when factoring how many lawmakers in the House of Representatives each state gets, as well as the number of electors for all 50 states.

It passed along party lines with 206 Republicans in favor and 202 Democrats against.

"Though commonsense dictates that only citizens should be counted for apportionment purposes,  illegal aliens have  nonetheless recently been counted toward the final tallies that determine how many House seats each state is allocated and the number of electoral votes it will wield in presidential elections," Edwards said during debate on the bill. "And since the illegal alien population is not evenly distributed throughout the nation, American citizens in some states are losing representation in Congress to illegal aliens in other states."

There was some uncertainty over whether the bill would pass given near-uniform opposition from Democrats as well as some Republicans.

Two House GOP aides told Fox News Digital earlier Wednesday that Republican lawmakers in New York and California, as well as several other establishment GOP members had reservations about the bill.

And Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., can afford precious little dissent, overseeing just a one-seat majority in the House. 

A majority of House Republicans support the bill, however, citing the record levels of illegal immigrants who have come to the U.S. under President Biden's tenure.

Including a citizenship question on the U.S. census is not a new idea, however – former President Trump  tried to have it added  before the 2020 census, but it was blocked by the Supreme Court.

One of the Democrats speaking out against the bill ahead of the Wednesday vote was Rep. Nanette Barragan, D-Calif., chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

"This requirement would deprive tens of millions of immigrants their right to representation," Barragan said, adding it would have a "chilling effect on participation in the census."

"Its accuracy would be destroyed," she said.

Rep. Clay Higgins, R-La., a supporter of the bill, argued it would not negate the census' intended purpose of counting everyone in the U.S.

"While this bill will continue to count every person in the United States, it adds a simple question – are you a United States citizen?" Higgins posed. "The problem is the level of illegal persons who now live in our country because of President Biden's failure at the southern border."

A New York Republican in favor of the bill, Rep. Nick Langworthy, R-N.Y., said on the House floor, "We're talking millions of people who are not American citizens having a major say in American elections."

Another lawmaker supporting the bill, Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., accused Democrats of opposing the bill because it would negatively impact their power in Congress.

"You could see why my Democratic colleagues would have a problem with this bill. Factoring illegal aliens  into the process  skews things in their favor," Burchett said. "If the census does not include the citizenship question, states with more illegal aliens will get more congressional districts and more electoral college votes."


Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, argued against the bill, "I'm for a whole lot more lawful immigration to America, less unlawful immigration to America…and a lot less demagoguery about who we are as a country."

He later added, "One should be clear that under this legislation, they're roping out of reapportionment not just undocumented people, they're roping out permanent residents…they're talking about disenfranchising from the reapportionment process, millions of people who are lawfully [in the U.S.]."


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Illegal migrants mean so much to the democrats

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

People mean so little to republicans.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  evilone @1.1    2 weeks ago

... non-white people.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  evilone @1.1    2 weeks ago

Dems love those potential votes and otherwise don't care about people.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @1.1    2 weeks ago

Illegals mean little.  Citizens on the other hand are what's important.  

Sadly the Democrats and left don't grasp that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Would those be the same people the NY Governor said don't know what computers are and that Biden didn't want his kids mixed up with in the "urban jungle"?

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.5  evilone  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.3    2 weeks ago
Illegals mean little.

Are all immigrants illegal? Do not those that 'do it the right way' not deserve representation?

 
 
 
George
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1.1.6  George  replied to  evilone @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Not until they are US citizens.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  evilone @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

I actually saw some maga moron in congress say on camera they should be counted as 3/5ths of a person...

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.8  evilone  replied to  George @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
Not until they are US citizens.

Not only is counter to the ideals this country is founded on it's unconstitutional.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  evilone @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Are all immigrants illegal?

Do you really need that explained to you?  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.10  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Only Democrats/Leftists can't tell the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. Which is the reason they keep lumping them all under "immigrants".

Only US citizens should be counted when it comes to deciding how many members of the House each state gets. Also for deciding how many electoral college votes each state gets.

Democrats only care about illegal immigrants for the power they bring them. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

They see them as feral cats.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.12  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
Only Democrats/Leftists can't tell the difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

The xenophobic racists right wing populists haven't demonstrated they care to know the difference between citizens and non-citizens. They keep trying to pass laws requiring LEOs to stop anyone brown and check their status.

Democrats only care about illegal immigrants for the power they bring them. 

Republicans only care about illegal immigration for the campaign funding it brings them. They got everything they wanted for the southern border from the Senate and the House turned it down because their Fuehrer told them it would give Joe a win.

Only US citizens should be counted when it comes to deciding how many members of the House each state gets. Also for deciding how many electoral college votes each state gets.

Then you need to force a change in the Constitution and at the same time get Thomas and Alito to abandon their bullshit 'originalist' doctrine.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @1.1.12    2 weeks ago

Why are so many leftists so gung-ho for illegal immigration?

Why do they want US Taxpayer dollars going to support people who should be self-sufficient?

Why do Democrats choose to harbor fugitives and refuse to cooperate with federal authorities?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

Not really.  I donate to the feral cat community in town.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  evilone @1.1.12    2 weeks ago
The xenophobic racists right wing populists

Still trying to get mileage by calling anyone that doesn't agree with you racist I see.  That is so 2020.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @1.1.12    2 weeks ago
They keep trying to pass laws requiring LEOs to stop anyone brown and check their status.

I challenge you to name a single law passed that requires what you are claiming.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  evilone @1.1.12    2 weeks ago
The xenophobic racists right wing populists haven't demonstrated they care to know the difference between citizens and non-citizens.

Do far left radicals know the difference?

I have to ask because they seem to treat them all the same--pay with US taxpayer money for them whether here legally or not.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.18  Ronin2  replied to  evilone @1.1.12    2 weeks ago
The xenophobic racists right wing populists haven't demonstrated they care to know the difference between citizens and non-citizens. They keep trying to pass laws requiring LEOs to stop anyone brown and check their status.

Complete and utter BS. Only racist leftists think the only illegals aren't white. Anyone that overstays their VISAs or enters this country illegally is an illegal immigrant regardless of skin pigmentation.

Republicans only care about illegal immigration for the campaign funding it brings them. They got everything they wanted for the southern border from the Senate and the House turned it down because their  Fuehrer  told them it would give Joe a win.

More BS. The House passed a border security bill HR 2. Schumer won't even bring it to the Senate floor. The bill actually addresses border security; and not by turning it into a Democrat indoctrination center. 

Then you need to force a change in the Constitution and at the same time get Thomas and Alito to abandon their bullshit 'originalist' doctrine.

Try the hell again. No where in Constitution does it state that non citizens should count towards deciding the number of House members each state gets; nor the number electoral college votes. The Constitution merely states that every person residing in the US be counted- which they are. They can allocate money to states based on the number of people; but only US citizens should count when it comes to allocating power. California, Illinois, New York, and other Democrat run bastions of stupidity should not be allowed greater power for being sanctuary cities catering to illegal immigrants- while enacting laws and living conditions that drive US citizens out. 

The only way Democrats/leftists can win elections is by rigging them. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.19  evilone  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.18    2 weeks ago
Complete and utter BS. Only racist leftists think the only illegals aren't white. Anyone that overstays their VISAs or enters this country illegally is an illegal immigrant regardless of skin pigmentation.

I've yet to hear any of the racist right talk about being 'invaded' from people of Caucasian countries.

More BS. The House passed a border security bill HR 2. Schumer won't even bring it to the Senate floor. The bill actually addresses border security; and not by turning it into a Democrat indoctrination center. 

HR2 was voted on in the Senate on March 1st and failed 32 to 58 (10 did not vote).

No where in Constitution does it state that non citizens should count towards deciding the number of House members each state gets; nor the number electoral college votes.

Article 1 Section 2 of the US Constitution requires a count of everyone in the US every 10 years for the apportionment of Representatives. The only exclusion in the section is "Indians not taxed". 

The only way Democrats/leftists can win elections is by rigging them. 

The only way Republicans can win elections is by gerrymandering districts and cutting off opportunities for new voter registration.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.20  Snuffy  replied to  evilone @1.1.19    2 weeks ago
More BS. The House passed a border security bill HR 2. Schumer won't even bring it to the Senate floor. The bill actually addresses border security; and not by turning it into a Democrat indoctrination center. 
HR2 was voted on in the Senate on March 1st and failed 32 to 58 (10 did not vote).

Can you show where this vote happened? I cannot find it. All I can find is that the House passed it and it went to the Senate on 5/15/23 and was placed into the calendar on 5/16/23 and no other action has been taken.

Actions - H.R.2 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Secure the Border Act of 2023 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
05/16/2023
Senate Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 71.
05/15/2023
Senate Received in the Senate. Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time.
05/11/2023-4:23pm
House Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
05/11/2023-4:23pm
House On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 219 - 213 ( Roll no. 209 ).
 
 
 
George
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1.1.21  George  replied to  evilone @1.1.19    2 weeks ago
The only way Republicans can win elections is by gerrymandering districts and cutting off opportunities for new voter registration.

That is one ignorant comment, How partisan do you have to be to make a statement so absolutely incorrect?

there are 50 states, 27 of those governors are currently republican, you can't "gerrymander a state wide race yet republicans still control more seat.

there are 100 senators, also a statewide race, there are currently more republicans than democrats in the senate, which again proves your Gerrymandering comment worthless.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.22  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

You mean these white people.

I can assure you they are not republicans.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.23  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @1.1.7    2 weeks ago
I actually saw some maga moron in congress say on camera they should be counted as 3/5ths of a person...

If that actually happened, then it would be on youtube. Maybe you can provide the video? s/

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  George @1.1.21    2 weeks ago

You know what happens every single time that someone complains about gerrymandering?

They forget that FIRST you have to win elections to even be able to do it!

This pretending the GOP only wins because of it is foolish.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
Illegal migrants mean so much to the democrats

Democrats WANT illegal aliens here.

The evidence is quite clear on that and simply indisputable.

 
 
 
George
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1.2.1  George  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2    2 weeks ago

Some Democrats are proponent of a guarantee base income, so we need a new slave class to do the jobs they are too lazy to do.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2    2 weeks ago

Since you have no evidence, how can it be indisputable?

Most Americans are descendants of illegal immigrants. 

How sad it must be to be so full of hate for the other. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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1.2.3  charger 383  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

so do we need more?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.4  Ronin2  replied to  charger 383 @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

Only until the voting scale is tipped in favor of Democrats forever.

Then they will have to shut off the flow or go bankrupt like every other Communist/Socialist third world shithole. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

There is plenty of evidence if one simply chooses to look instead of ignore.

Sanctuaries are Democrats wanting illegal aliens and actually encourages them to come illegally.

And you provided nothing for that preposterous claim.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    2 weeks ago
Most Americans are descendants of illegal immigrants.

I'd love to see your proof of this.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    2 weeks ago
here is plenty of evidence if one simply chooses to look instead of ignore.

You mean like Traitor Joe's EO stopping construction of the border wall?

You mean like Traitor Joe's administration suing states like Texas and Arizona to remove what they have put in place to secure the border?

You mean like Democrats declaring their cities and states as sanctuary shitholes where they cut services to actual citizens and gave it to those who are here illegally?

Or do you mean how the Traitor Joe HHS Redefines ‘Lawfully Present’ To Give ‘Free’ Health Care To Illegal Immigrants?

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.8  cjcold  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.4    2 weeks ago
third world shithole

Third world shitholes tend to be right wing and fascist. 

Much like the GOP would have America become.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    2 weeks ago
Most Americans are descendants of illegal immigrants. 

What makes you think that?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.2.8    2 weeks ago
Much like the GOP would have America become.

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Ronin2
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1.2.12  Ronin2  replied to  cjcold @1.2.8    2 weeks ago

Leftists really need to learn the definition of fascist.

1
often capitalized   :   a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized   autocratic   government headed by a   dictatorial   leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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:   a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army   fascism   and brutality
Which party in the US wants a strong centralized government rather than states rights?
Which party wanted to federalize all elections?
Which party wanted to stack the Supreme Court so it would always rule in it's favor?
Which party is abusing the legal system against their main political opponent?
Which party attempted to keep their main political opponent off the ballot in several states?
Which party has weaponized the DOJ/FBI/CIA/IRS?
Which party has gone after Jan 6th rioters while ignoring the Summer of Love rioters and current pro Hamas rioters? 
Which party is trying to force their views on gender? That boys be allowed in girls bathrooms; and to compete in girls sports?
Which party is the tax and spend party?
Tell us all again which party are the fascists in the US?
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @1.2.8    2 weeks ago
Third world shitholes tend to be right wing and fascist.

Then why is the left wing imbeciles and Democrats trying to make the US into one?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.14  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    2 weeks ago
How sad it must be to be so full of hate for the other. 

How many illegals have you taken into your home.

If the answer is zero, then that would make one full of hate for the other.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @1.2.8    2 weeks ago

You seem very very confused

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
Illegal migrants mean so much to the democrats

What about LEGAL asylum seekers?  I know the GOP likes to pretend they don't exist and that they are not legal guests of this country.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3    2 weeks ago

No problem with them so long as they follow the law.

Starting with presenting themselves at a legal port of entry. Staying within the US is not a condition of getting asylum. So they can remain in Mexico for Canada until their court dates.

Also, just seeking a job is not grounds for asylum. Most immigrants that request asylum are rejected- even with Brandon's lax enforcement of our immigration laws.

Thankfully the "bipartisan" POS bill that would have allowed to turn the US border into a Democrat indoctrination center failed. As well as a Democrat bill in the Senate that would have given Brandon everything he wanted w/o any limitations on illegals entering this country.

Democrats on the Senate Appropriations bill said ahead of Wednesday’s failed vote their bill would provide “resources to meet operational needs at the southern border, humanely manage new encounters, reduce processing and adjudication backlogs, and support partner country efforts to improve integration and identify legal pathways for migrants in third countries.” Under the request, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services would gain 1,600 new asylum officers, Border Patrol would net 1,300 new agents, Customs and Border Protection would see 1,000 new officers and Immigration and Customs Enforcement would add 1,470 attorneys. The latter hiring would accompany 375 immigration judges within Justice’s Executive Office of Immigration Review and support staff for each of them.

Democrats could try at least a little bit of subtlety for a change.

 
 
 
charger 383
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1.3.2  charger 383  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3    2 weeks ago

         " LEGAL asylum seekers? "

why do Citizens need them?

 
 
 
George
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1.3.3  George  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.1    2 weeks ago

ALERT: Court Order on Circumvention of Lawful Pathways Final Rule

On Aug. 3, 2023, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit issued a stay of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California’s order in  East Bay Sanctuary Covenant v. Biden , 18-cv-06810 (N.D. Cal.), vacating the   Circumvention of Lawful Pathways (CLP) rule . At this time and while the stay remains in place, USCIS will continue to apply the CLP rule.

Under the rule, certain individuals who enter the United States through its southwest land border or adjacent coastal borders are presumed to be ineligible for asylum, unless they can demonstrate an exception to the rule or rebut the presumption. Individuals are encouraged to use lawful, safe, and orderly pathways to come to the United States.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @1.3.1    2 weeks ago
No problem with them so long as they follow the law.

So you are for allowing them to be counted.  Wow, that is a big step for you, congratulations.

Starting with presenting themselves at a legal port of entry.

Not required, stick with the law and stop rewriting it to support your own beliefs.

Also, just seeking a job is not grounds for asylum.

Talk to the judges about that, all they need to do is request it and receive a date to show up and plead their case.  Unfortunately that takes quite a while since the republicans blocked a bill that would have hired more judges to speed it up.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.5  Ozzwald  replied to  charger 383 @1.3.2    2 weeks ago

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Snuffy
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2  Snuffy    2 weeks ago

I think it's a valid question to ask as federal money is limited (despite owning the printing press) so when doling out money to assist state governments in dealing with illegal immigrants they do need to have a good idea of numbers. But apportioning legislators based on including those numbers should not be allowed, legislators should be aligned with citizens and legal immigrants. 

But this is really a non-discussion as this will not pass in the Senate, I doubt it will even be brought up for a vote.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

why wouldn’t that be important to know?

 
 
 
charger 383
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4  charger 383    2 weeks ago

This country should be run for citizens not outsiders 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @4    2 weeks ago

This country is big enough for all of us and WE don't view these, our fellow human beings, as feral cats, or outsiders, or undeserving of everything.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    2 weeks ago

country is overcrowded and we should be smart enough to keep what we have

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

That's not true.  

There's plenty to go around.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.3  charger 383  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

so why are the roads, schools, hospitals, ect overcrowded? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    2 weeks ago
This country is big enough for all of us

Um, no.  We dont have unlimited resources.  Why should we take care of illegals while there are so many poor citizens that need help?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
There's plenty to go around.

Bullshit

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.4    2 weeks ago
Why should we take care of illegals while there are so many poor citizens that need help?

Because liberals haven't quite run out of other people's money yet?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

Poor infrastructure

Stats?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

Other than outdated infrastructure, etc. - where are the stats for this alleged 'overcrowding'??????

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
There's plenty to go around.

If that were true Democrat sanctuary shit holes wouldn't be cutting services to CITIZENS and giving them to the illegals?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
Poor infrastructure

Too bad Traitor Joe's infrastructure bill failed.  Not that it's a surprise to anybody.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.11  charger 383  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Look around

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

That's not true

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @6    2 weeks ago

What is "that"?

 
 
 
charger 383
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7  charger 383    2 weeks ago

The Census needs to ask this question so we know how many Citizens we have.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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8  Robert in Ohio    2 weeks ago

I was checking into the process and procedure of the U.S. census process ( mandated by Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution) and came across this information in Microsoft AI

The U.S. Census is a crucial process that occurs every 10 years, as mandated by Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution. Here’s who is counted in the U.S. census process:

  1. Residents : The census aims to count every resident in the United States. This includes both citizens and non-citizens.

  2. Legal Residents : Non-citizen legal residents are also counted. If you’re living in the U.S. legally, you’re part of the census.

  3. Long-Term Visitors : Even non-citizen long-term visitors (such as those on work visas or student visas) are included in the census.

  4. Undocumented Immigrants : Yes, undocumented immigrants are counted too.   The Census Bureau bases its decision on the concept of “usual residence,” which means where a person lives and sleeps most of the time 1 2 .

The data collected during the census is critical for various purposes, including determining the number of seats each state has in the U.S. House of Representatives and distributing federal funds to local communities. So, whether you’re a citizen, a legal resident, or a visitor, your participation matters!

So it seems that "illegal aliens" or "undocumented individuals" (take your pick of designation, should be counted in the census process and it also seems that the "citizen question" is also appropriate for the census process.

jmo

 
 

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