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The slow disintegration of the lawfare master plan

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  106 comments

The slow disintegration of the lawfare master plan
“Your failure to disclose the spoliation of this evidence until this month is an extraordinary breach of your constitutional and ethical obligations,” the lawyers wrote Tuesday.


An appeals court in Georgia will review a lower court ruling allowing Fulton County's DA to prosecute a lawfare case against the former President. The Trump team wants Fani Willis removed. The spotlight right now is on the DA. Willis had hoped to bring former President Donald Trump to trial in August, but the GA Court of Appeals won't begin hearing this appeal at least until then. This delay all but guarantees that the GA case against Trump will not begin before the election.


Due to issues such as prosecutors not sharing evidence with Trump lawyers and what now appears to be FBI evidence tampering the Judge in the documents case has indefinitely postponed the trial. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon ruled that finalizing a trial date without first resolving disputes about classified documents “would be imprudent and inconsistent” with preparations to present the case to a jury. In other words, it would deny the defendant a fair trial. 

The illegally appointed Jack Smith, who brought the classified document charges in Florida, also has election interference charges against the former President pending in Washington, D.C. That trial is not delayed as the SCOTUS considers the question of Presidential immunity.

That leaves the democrats with the "trial" now going on in New York. In that farce the conflicted judge allowed the prosecution to let Stormy Daniels engage in a day long tirade of salacious commentary regarding the former President, recalling an alleged event that happened 18 years ago. Despite it having nothing to do with the case and warnings from defense attorneys on what she could be like, judge Merchan let it all rip. Then he told everyone he regretted it and told the jury to "disregard" much of her testimony. The defense called for a mistrial, which the judge immediately denied. He did express shock over the testimony, on the other hand most observers consider the trial itself to be more shocking that the testimony.


In other news:

President Biden told Israel that the US would halt weapons shipments if the Israeli military launched a full invasion of the densely populated southern Gaza city of Rafah. The aid approved by the congress is now being withheld by our lord high dictator in chief. Experts say America’s pause on a shipment last week showed a significant divide in the alliance.

The U.N. said that no aid trucks have entered Gaza since Sunday.

Maintenance workers at Columbia University described their fears after protesters took over a building after the school administration did nothing to help them.

U.S.C.’s academic senate voted to censure the school's President after she canceled a Muslim student’s valedictory address and called the police to clear a protest encampment. They have a great empathy for their Muslim students.

Biden’s campaign team has now focused on midweek events countering Donald Trump's lone weekday off from trial campaign day. They must drown him out if possible.

Marjorie Taylor Greene called for a vote to unseat Speaker Mike Johnson. Johnson was saved by the democrats. The vote was 359-43.

A miscommunication between top military officials helped cause an hours long delay in deploying the National Guard during the Jan. 6 Capitol attack. Something the Jan 6th Committee failed to explain.

Gang violence in Haiti has forced hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. Maybe many could be flown to the US.

General Motors is retiring the Chevy Malibu, its last affordable gas-powered sedan.

Houston’s police chief retired abruptly while facing scrutiny about 260,000 crime reports that were never investigated.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Good morning.

It is a beautiful day in the northeast

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It is all coming apart for them and now there is campus unrest.

Who knew that was coming 6 months out from the election.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
It is all coming apart for them

Trump will almost certainly be convicted in New York. The judge has gift wrapped the case for the prosecution.  I don't think it withstands an appeal (, the state will not want this judge's rulings setting precedent)   but that won't happen before the election.  All the bumbling, all the dishonesty from the prosecution don't really matter when the judge can tee up how the case is framed to the jury.  It's an exercise in raw power and Democrats have it in the jurisdiction they brought Trump to trial in. 

A conviction will hurt Trump, how much damage it causes and how much of it goes away by the election will be interesting to see. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1    2 weeks ago
A conviction will hurt Trump

Not only have the polls show that, but there may be defections despite the likely verdict. The last few primaries show 20% and 16& support for Nikki Haley who is no longer in the race.

On the bright note is the campus unrest which was unforeseen a few weeks ago and which now will surely hurt Biden.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

college is out for the summer next week. bummer...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Cannon, bought and paid for by the cons.

 
 
 
George
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2  George    2 weeks ago
U.S.C.’s academic senate voted to censure the school's President after she canceled a Muslim student’s valedictory address and called the police to clear a protest encampment. They have a great empathy for their Muslim students.

I'm 50/50 on this, i disagree with the first part and agree 100% with the second part, The Student did the work, got the grades and earned the title of Valedictorian, she should be allowed to speak if there is any graduation ceremony, her religion or beliefs are irrelevant. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @2    2 weeks ago

Good point. I can't deny that.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

Sadly, Biden has totally come out in support of Hamas by withholding the already authorized weapons.  

I see Antifa is back in the thick of things, can't wait to see what will happen during the DNC convention.

Journalist attacked on campus by Antifa recognizes attackers from 2020 BLM riots: 'These are professionals' (msn.com)

Biden Blasted for Unprecedented Support of Islamic Terrorism (townhall.com)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 weeks ago
I see Antifa is back in the thick of things, can't wait to see what will happen during the DNC convention.

With friends like that, Biden doesn't need enemies.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 weeks ago
ly, Biden has totally come out in support of Hamas by withholding the already authorized weapons.

Stabbed Israel in the back to help domestic politics...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

I find it humorous, although entirely pathetic, that conservatives rejoice that Trump has forestalled justice on a blanket of technicalities and judicial stalls. 

That smells like "victory" to them. 

Who cares if he actually did all the things he is accused of ?   Not them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

I forgot to add in the article that the Trump haters are down to "wrongdoing."

Did he ever do anything wrong in his life that we can prosecute & jail him for?

Anyone?

 
 
 
George
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4.1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 weeks ago
"wrongdoing."

Is that like taking showers with your teenage daughter? or do our liberal friends think that is okay?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

Our liberal friends don't accept that Joe did that.

They ignore all of the actions of anyone out to get Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 weeks ago

I am neither a lawyer nor prosecutor and I am not going to blowhard about the "illegal" nature of Trump's activities. I'll leave that to the professionals. 

It is much more telling that you cant even denounce Trump's 'wrongdoing' and rather simply pretend it doesnt exist. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

Right now, we are seeing a lot of "wrongdoing" in the NY judicial system.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 weeks ago
I forgot to add in the article that the Trump haters are down to "wrongdoing."

We already knew that.  It was evident with the "Russia Collusion" hoax and has continued for 7 years now.

Did he ever do anything wrong in his life that we can prosecute & jail him for?

Nothing that the left and Democrats have been able to prove.  Just mindless accusation after accusation.  That's a lot of shit to throw against the wall to have nothing stick.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.5    2 weeks ago
It was evident with the "Russia Collusion" hoax and has continued for 7 years now.

Some just won't give it up. A real critical thinker would call it confirmation bias.


Nothing that the left and Democrats have been able to prove. 

And the amazing thing is that they have records of everything he ever did. Nobody has been investigated as much, and by confirmed enemies!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago
"Who cares if he actually did all the things he is accused of?"

What if he didn't? Trump is simply using the legal system to defend himself/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    2 weeks ago

Now there is talk that the NY prosecutor (from Biden's DOJ) might just allow the jury the choice of what the hidden crime is.

Sort of a mix & match.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    2 weeks ago
there is talk that the NY prosecutor (from Biden's DOJ) might just allow the jury the choice of what the hidden crime is.

At this point, nothing would surprise me. Might as well try for  a  conviction when the jury doesn't even agree on the crime they are convicting for. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    2 weeks ago

From Byron York this morning:

"Many of you are commenting about the fuzziness of the 'other crime' that raises the alleged Trump false bookkeeping misdemeanor into a felony. Now there is talk that prosecutors will give the jury a choice of alleged other crime. You like an FEC violation? Sure. How about 17-152? No problem. Tax fraud? Edgy, but great! Prosecutors don't have to prove any of the other crimes, and it is unclear whether jurors will have to agree on one or will be allowed to pick their favorite."

Report: Bragg Will Give Jury Multiple Choices for Alleged 'Other Crime' of Trump - Forum - Command Center (patriotcommandcenter.org)

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    2 weeks ago
What if he didn't? Trump is simply using the legal system to defend himself

No, he is using the legal system to avoid defending himself.  If he truly wanted to defend himself he would stop pushing for delays and actually DEFEND himself in court.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    2 weeks ago
No, he is using the legal system to avoid defending himself.  If he truly wanted to defend himself he would stop pushing for delays and actually DEFEND himself in court.

Trump doesn't have to do anything. It is on the prosecution to make its own case.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    2 weeks ago
No, he is using the legal system to avoid defending himself

Duh, isn't that taught in Defense 101?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.6    2 weeks ago
Duh, isn't that taught in Defense 101?

Nope, it is taught in Avoidance 101, under the title of "what to do if you're guilty and have no defense".

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.7    2 weeks ago

Do you understand that Trump isn't required to 'defend' himself at all?

 
 
 
George
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4.2.9  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    2 weeks ago

We found out just a few days ago that the DOJ and prosecution team mishandled evidence, and that the favorite picture of the low function liberal press where all the folders said top secret was staged and those covers weren't even onsite until the FBI brought them, so it appears delaying is defending. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.2.10  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.8    2 weeks ago

Doubtful, cuz you know, it's Trump.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.4    2 weeks ago
f.  If he truly wanted to defend himself he would stop pushing for delays and actually DEFEND himself in court.

Lol.  We are at the point where the authoritarians are attacking a defendant for daring to employ their due process rights. 

Also, and this should be obvious, but fighting to have the case dismissed is, in fact, defending yourself in court. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.7    2 weeks ago

ABA Rule of Professional Conduct 2.1 says:

Rule of Professional Conduct 2.1   says:

In representing a client, a lawyer shall exercise independent professional judgment and render candid advice. In rendering advice, a lawyer may refer not only to law but to other considerations such as moral, economic, social and political factors , that may be relevant to the client's situation.

Clearly it's to Trumps advantage to delay.  I f he is elected, he could order the federal cases against him to be dropped.  There is a political advantage to not having a conviction ahead of an election.

That said, the main delay in GA is due to the DA's behavior. In the classified documents case, Judge Cannon blew then schedule/process apart. Her ruling moved some key dates to the right  she wrote, it was because of “the myriad and interconnected pretrial and CIPA issues”.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.12    2 weeks ago
it was because of “the myriad and interconnected pretrial and CIPA issues”.

Most notable were the recent ones such as the FBI tampering with evidence and arranging this scene at Mar-A-Lago:

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Ozzwald
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4.2.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.13    2 weeks ago
Most notable were the recent ones such as the FBI tampering with evidence and arranging this scene at Mar-A-Lago:

What happened at Mar-a-Lago does not meet the definition of "Tampering with Evidence", except for what Trump and his allies did.  But you keep spinning since it is all you got.

Tampering with evidence, or evidence tampering, is an act in which a person alters, conceals, falsifies, or destroys evidence with the intent to interfere with an investigation by a law-enforcement, governmental, or regulatory authority. It is a criminal offense in many jurisdictions.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.15  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.14    2 weeks ago
What happened at Mar-a-Lago does not meet the definition of "Tampering with Evidence"

And that isn't what he claimed, why are you trying to argue something that was never said?

Jack Smith's Team Admits Key Evidence in Trump Case Has Been Tampered With, Court Misled About It

Jack Smith's Team Admits Key Evidence in Trump Case Has Been Tampered With, Court Misled About It (msn.com)

 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.16  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4.2.15    2 weeks ago
And that isn't what he claimed, why are you trying to argue something that was never said?

Special Counsel Jack Smith has revealed that at some point after boxes of documents were seized from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, the order of the documents changed, which the court did not learn about until now.

Thousands of documents and a few are out of order.  Care to explain how that constitutes "tampering"( see above definition ), and how that would affect anything in the case?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.7    2 weeks ago

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George
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4.2.18  George  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.16    2 weeks ago

The special counsel used the term, if you don't like it take it up with them.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2.19  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4.2.18    2 weeks ago
The special counsel used the term, if you don't like it take it up with them.

Special counsel is not on NT, you are the one using it here and not as a quote.  If you cannot support your own statement just admit to that so we can move on.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.20  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.13    2 weeks ago
FBI tampering with evidence and arranging this scene at Mar-A-Lago:

Of course they arranged it so they could document the evidence. Duh. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    2 weeks ago
Trump is simply using the legal system to defend himself/

You know the left doesn't like when people do that.  As we've already seen, they run with their idiotic "guilty until proven innocent" mentality.  

If you remember, Trump was a Democrat.  And they loved him.  Right up to the point he changed party's and beat them.  Reality, that is the only "crime" he committed and they have been railing against him ever since.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.16    2 weeks ago
Care to explain how that constitutes "tampering"

You explained it.  

Special Counsel Jack Smith has revealed that at some point after boxes of documents were seized from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, the order of the documents changed

To put it simply, they MISHANDLED CLASSIFIED MATERIALS for their little photo shoot which is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.  Not the first time Democrat leaning "prosecutors" did this, but it is the first time they are called on it can blew up their case.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.23  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.22    2 weeks ago
To put it simply, they MISHANDLED CLASSIFIED MATERIALS for their little photo shoot which is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE. 

Sorry. Wrong again. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.2.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @4.2.23    2 weeks ago

I notice you can't explain how I'm "wrong".  Not that I'm surprised. Either way, the record show your claim to be false.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.25  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.24    2 weeks ago

You are wrong because the evidence is merely out of the order it was in when it was inventoried. It is not missing and there is a record of the order, so there isn't really any problem besides the legion of stupid people claiming that there is a problem.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @4.2.25    2 weeks ago
the evidence is merely out of the order it was in when it was inventoried.

Which is mishandling classified material.  That is the very thing they are trying Trump for.   

Now it is out of order, and mislabeled for a photo op. That is tampering with evidence.  The photo that was "leaked" or "released" (what ever) is evidence of mishandled classified material.  Those cover sheets should NEVER be all be present in the fashion they are displayed.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.27  bugsy  replied to  Thomas @4.2.25    2 weeks ago
ou are wrong because the evidence is merely out of the order it was in when it was inventoried.

You are wrong because the investigators threw random classification cover sheets on the documents, no matter what the cover sheets were or what the classification of the documents were.

By doing so, they are claiming documents have a higher classification than they really do.

That is tampering with evidence.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.2.28  Thomas  replied to  bugsy @4.2.27    2 weeks ago
You are wrong because the investigators threw random classification cover sheets on the documents, no matter what the cover sheets were or what the classification of the documents were.

Prove that is what they did. 

 
 
 
Thomas
Senior Guide
4.2.29  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.2.26    2 weeks ago
Which is mishandling classified material.  That is the very thing they are trying Trump for.   

Wrong again.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.2.30  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.13    2 weeks ago
evidence and arranging this scene at Mar-A-Lago:

So what you're saying is that the documents he stole were at Mar-A-Lago...

Got it, good talk. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.31  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.30    2 weeks ago
So what you're saying is that the documents he stole were at Mar-A-Lago... Got it, good talk. 

And the ones Biden stole were in a garage, in his old office, etc.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.2.32  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.31    2 weeks ago
And the ones Biden stole were in a garage, in his old office, etc.

But see, that's different, dontcha know?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.2.33  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Thomas @4.2.29    2 weeks ago

Still waiting on you to prove me wrong.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
4.3  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago
Who cares if he actually did all the things he is accused of ? 

You just want to get on with a fair hangin. Take a break, have a smelly cigar.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  squiggy @4.3    2 weeks ago

Judge Roy Bean would have been proud.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago
Trump has forestalled justice on a blanket of technicalities and judicial stalls. 

So now Trump is to blame for how the legal system works in America.

Is there anything on earth he ISN'T blamed for by far left radicals?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.4.1  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4    2 weeks ago

I've not yet heard him blamed for teenage acne, but the day's still young.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @4.4.1    2 weeks ago

Have you ever defended Biden about anything the way you always defend Trump?  I cannot recall such a unicorn occurrence. 

Or are you not as objective as you claim? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    2 weeks ago

Left wing radicals are infamous for trying to make it seem as if everything not a direct, endless stream of Trump-bashing is a defense of Trump.

It's downright ludicrous and completely false.,

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.4  Texan1211  replied to  Snuffy @4.4.1    2 weeks ago
I've not yet heard him blamed for teenage acne, but the day's still young.

It is crazy!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    2 weeks ago
Have you ever defended Biden

Have you ever not defended Biden--often times by deflecting to Trump?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.4.6  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    2 weeks ago

It's very obvious that you would not recognize it when I did if you think my post in 4.4.1 is a defense of Trump. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
4.4.7  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.4    2 weeks ago
I've not yet heard him blamed for teenage acne, but the day's still young.
It is crazy!

Yep, yet someone has taken that to be a defense of Trump. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.8  Texan1211  replied to  Snuffy @4.4.7    2 weeks ago

If you're not raging about all things Trump with every waking breath, some will falsely and repetitively claim you are defending him.

It's so tiresome.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.4.9  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    2 weeks ago

No.  Never.  Just the never ending defense of the indefensible.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.4.10  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @4.4.6    2 weeks ago

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Ronin2
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4.5  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

It isn't like he transmitted classified information over a private unsecured server; and then destroyed the server, computers, tablets,  and blackberries in order to hinder the investigation.

It isn't like he shared classified information (he wasn't supposed to even have) with his ghost writer; who then destroyed some of the evidence is it? 

Try focusing on the real criminals for a change; and demand they be brought to justice.

Most of us are sick of the two tier justice system Democrats are imposing on the US.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4.5.1  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @4.5    2 weeks ago
It isn't like he transmitted classified information over a private unsecured server;

No, but his daughter did... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.5.2  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.5.1    2 weeks ago
No, but his daughter did... 

Lesson from Hillary?

 
 
 
Thomas
Senior Guide
4.6  Thomas  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 weeks ago

He did them all and some more, but they say, "Where are the convictions?" right after they foam at the mouth because he is indicted and then scream "Immunity!"

All to defend a worthless excuse for a human. But that is ok. He loves them and they love him back. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Erin Burnett of CNN: "Grocery prices are up 30%+ ... that's a real day-to-day pain that people feel."

Joe Biden: "They have the money to spend."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    2 weeks ago
"They have the money to spend."

Play that and "four more years Pause" on a loop for advertising. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    2 weeks ago

Even the people who vote for him won't be saying "thank God he's there."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Telling voters who are struggling that "they have the  money to spend" is all an time gaffe..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

It is a little insulting to working people, but evidently, he is making an omelet.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
Telling voters who are struggling that "they have the  money to spend" is all an time gaffe..

Joe Biden's 2024 version of "Let them eat cake"? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

How dare they argue with Joe. "Happy days are here again."

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    2 weeks ago
Joe Biden: "They have the money to spend."

I haven't seen how Joe's handlers explained what he must have really meant, have you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    2 weeks ago

That one is hard to fix. Right now, they have decided to have him say less and not answer questions.

Biden's general election strategy: Less is more (msn.com)

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

Pretty fancy plans just to hide Biden and keep him from any undesired questions or those not preplanned-and-answered questions.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.2    2 weeks ago
the trials that have been allowed to proceed , that is. 

They just do want to put him in the cellar again. There is no more pandemic, and they have Trump tied up in court so they feel they should take advantage of it. Unfortunately, Joe Biden is failing terribly at this point.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6  Robert in Ohio    2 weeks ago

"Lawfare" is one of the latest and certainly the most stupid "made up" words to be bandied by the press.

If there was prosecutorial misconduct that taints the evidence then it should be excluded, but the continued whining, bitching and moaning from the right about persecution rather than prosecution is getting old and makes Trump look weak rather than strong.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    2 weeks ago

You know Bob, they are going to call you a Conservative in the end anyway.

Are you really saying this is a fair trial?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    2 weeks ago

Vic

If Trump would act like he has half a brain and not spew bullshit, hate and accusations with every other breath, there would likely be no gag order and the trial would likely be over and he would either be acquitted or appealing but he is dragging it our for the campaign effect.

I think they are doing every thing they can to make it a fair trial and Trump will not cooperate - Trump screams about no one being above the law and wanting justice and equal treatment --- if any other defendant had defied a judge as Trump has done they would have been in jail long ago.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.1.1    2 weeks ago
I think they are doing every thing they can to make it a fair trial

The eyes in my head say otherwise.


if any other defendant had defied a judge as Trump has done they would have been in jail long ago.

You know that is not true. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.1.3  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
if any other defendant had defied a judge as Trump has done they would have been in jail long ago.You know that is not true

I know that is absolutely true! 

And even if you disagree with the gag order, once it is in place Trump must comply or he should face the same consequences that other criminal defendants would face - an extended stay at the Roker's Island Resort and Spa.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    2 weeks ago

who cares about "evidence" ?   The only thing that mattesr to Trumpsters is that he profit politically from these trials. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 weeks ago
who cares about "evidence" ? 

Where the fuck is it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

in court.  the trials that have been allowed to proceed , that is. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.2    2 weeks ago
the trials that have been allowed to proceed , that is. 

Trump has ZERO power over courts.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.2    2 weeks ago
in court. 

Show it to us!


the trials that have been allowed to proceed , that is. 

You have one dirty bullet left.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.2.5  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.3    2 weeks ago

The Supremes are not just a 60s girl group...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2.5    2 weeks ago
The Supremes are not just a 60s girl group...

I never thought that, but glad you have finally learned it!

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.2.7  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 weeks ago

Definitely Democrats- the they are trying to restrict as much of it as they can when it comes to Trump's defense.

Who cares about fair and impartial trials anyways? Definitely not Democrats. They have proven that repeatedly.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.2.8  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2    2 weeks ago

I am starting to think that Trump views it as a campaign opportunity and nothing else, unless of course he is convicted and then he will be screaming that he wasn't allowed to speak (which is nonsense as I think the gag order makes perfect sense in view of his actions).

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.9  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago
Where the fuck is it?

If there was no evidence, there would be no trial. Wake up. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    2 weeks ago

It was made up by the 'right' to make up the excuse that somehow the former 'president' is being unfairly targeted for the many, many, many, unlawful crimes that he has committed.  

Lawfare - whatever it's supposed to mean - like I said - was made up by the rwnjs' to pretend that President Biden is prosecuting the turd when the turd has brought it all on itself.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.3.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 weeks ago

TLo

You make a pretty good point that is negated by your spew of hate - nice try though

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.3    2 weeks ago

Look up “Lawfare” in the dictionary. Won’t be so made up. And exactly what is going on. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.3.2    2 weeks ago

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttt.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.3.1    2 weeks ago

Bullshit,  No hate coming from me

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
6.3.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.4    2 weeks ago

Funny

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6.3.6  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.4    one week ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.4  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    2 weeks ago

The former 'president' is weak and a coward a bully and a monumental POS.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @6.4    2 weeks ago

Join me in not voting for him!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.4    2 weeks ago

much like its' supporters

 
 

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