╌>

Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  krishna  •  2 weeks ago  •  32 comments

By:   Caroline Kitchener

Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion
The previously unreported petition reflects a potential new antiabortion strategy to block women from ending their pregnancies in states where abortion is legal.

Photo: Police watch as antiabortion advocates take part in a demonstration outside the Texas Capitol in Austin on Jan. 27. (Suzanne Cordeiro/AFP/Getty Images).

Note:

Crossing state lines for abortion care remains legal nationwide.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T




As soon as Collin Davis found out his ex-partner was planning to travel to Colorado to have an   abortion   in late February, the Texas man retained a high-powered antiabortion attorney — who court records show immediately issued a legal threat.

If the woman proceeded with the abortion, even in a state where the procedure remains legal, Davis would seek a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the abortion and “pursue wrongful-death claims against anyone involved in the killing of his unborn child,” the lawyer wrote in a letter, according to records.

Now, Davis has disclosed his former partner’s abortion to a state district court in Texas, asking for the power to investigate what his lawyer characterizes as potentially illegal activity in a state where almost all abortions are banned.

The previously unreported petition was submitted under an unusual legal mechanism often used in Texas to investigate suspected illegal actions before a lawsuit is filed. The petition claims Davis could sue either under the state’s wrongful-death statute or the novel Texas law known as Senate Bill 8 that allows private citizens to file suit against anyone who “aids or abets” an illegal abortion.

The decision to target an abortion that occurred outside of Texas represents a potential new strategy by antiabortion activists to achieve a goal many in the movement have been working toward since  Roe v. Wade  was overturned: stopping women from traveling out of state to end their pregnancies. Crossing state lines for abortion care remains legal nationwide.

The case also illustrates the role that men who disapprove of their partners’ decisions could play in surfacing future cases that may violate abortion bans — either by filing their own civil lawsuits or by reporting the abortions to law enforcement.



Tags

jrDiscussion - desc
[]
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1  seeder  Krishna    2 weeks ago

As soon as Collin Davis found out his ex-partner was planning to travel to Colorado to have an      abortion       in late February, the Texas man retained a high-powered antiabortion attorney — who court records show immediately issued a legal threat.

If the woman proceeded with the abortion, even in a state where the procedure remains legal, Davis would seek a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the abortion and “pursue wrongful-death claims against anyone involved in the killing of his unborn child,” the lawyer wrote in a letter, according to records.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Krishna @1    2 weeks ago

that texas asswipe won't get any cooperation from anybody in colorado, except maybe some thoughts and prayers from the rapidly diminishing number of dumbass thumpers here, that don't believe in the god given basic freedom of bodily autonomy.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago
thoughts and prayers from the rapidly diminishing number of dumbass thumpers here

They all live in C Springs now, don't they?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1    2 weeks ago

Are people there starting to walk backwards as well, eat their meals starting with desert and ending with soup and salad, drive backing up while looking out the back window, go to bed at dawn and wake up at sunset?  Seems to me that's the new lifestyle there. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2  seeder  Krishna    2 weeks ago

The previously unreported petition was submitted under an unusual legal mechanism often used in Texas to investigate suspected illegal actions before a lawsuit is filed. The petition claims Davis could sue either under the state’s wrongful-death statute or the novel Texas law known as Senate Bill 8 that allows private citizens to file suit against anyone who “aids or abets” an illegal abortion.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3  seeder  Krishna    2 weeks ago

The decision to target an abortion that occurred outside of Texas represents a potential new strategy by antiabortion activists to achieve a goal many in the movement have been working toward since  Roe v. Wade  was overturned: stopping women from traveling out of state to end their pregnancies.

Crossing state lines for abortion care remains legal nationwide.

The case also illustrates the role that men who disapprove of their partners’ decisions could play in surfacing future cases that may violate abortion bans — either by filing their own civil lawsuits or by reporting the abortions to law enforcement.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

Does anyone think that women aren't going to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers in November?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @4    2 weeks ago

the ones that don't will deserve what they get if trump wins. I won't play nice with maga if they take the freedom of bodily autonomy away from 51% of americans. I'm compiling a list of local unamerican anti-choice scum that think making health decisions for others is okay, just in case they require a lesson in hypocrisy ...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @4    2 weeks ago

Does anyone think that women aren't going to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers in November?

That was my thought as well.

But in addition-- while this directly effects women themselves-- what about the people in her immediate family? And her friends? And others who know her?

They would also be upset if she suffered-- or even died if she could get a necessary abortion!

So, IMO, it will also cause a lot of men to vote Dem as well!!!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2    2 weeks ago

Does anyone think that women aren't going to vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers in November?

That was my thought as well.

But in addition-- while this directly effects women themselves-- what about the people in her immediate family? And her friends? And others who know her?

They would also be upset if she suffered-- or even died if she could get a necessary abortion!

So, IMO, it will also cause a lot of men to vote Dem as well!!!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.1    2 weeks ago
So, IMO, it will also cause a lot of men to vote Dem as well!!!

In fact I think its more significant than many people realize. If the presidential election is close (regardless of who is running!!!) the Abortion issue has the potential to make the Republicans lose in November!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.2    2 weeks ago
In fact I think its more significant than many people realize. If the presidential election is close (regardless of who is running!!!) the Abortion issue has the potential to make the Republicans lose in November!

There is that video of Trump claiming that he is responsible for the overthrow of Roe v Wade (because he appointed all those conservative judges to the Supreme Court).

So what the Dems should do is replay that video over and over on the airwaves...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.3    2 weeks ago
So what the Dems should do is replay that video over and over on the airwaves...

I just found video of him boasting about he was responsible for overturning Roe v Wade. (Nice to hear him telling the truth for a change jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png )::

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4.2.5  charger 383  replied to  Krishna @4.2.2    2 weeks ago

Abortion restrictions loose elections, I have been saying that for some time.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2.6  devangelical  replied to  charger 383 @4.2.5    2 weeks ago

we'll both be long dead by the time maga thumpers figure that out.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @4    2 weeks ago

It's assholes like Collin Davis who will cause the destruction of the Republican Party.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Gsquared @4    2 weeks ago

Not all of them.  Some women are proud to be trash.

384

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

What is the likelihood that this guy would have fought tooth and nail to avoid paying a penny in child support?

Meanwhile, the remedy if he were to win his threatened wrongful death suit is monetary.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 weeks ago

What’s your methodology on estimating likelihood?

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    2 weeks ago

The same as always.  Better than 50/50.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1    2 weeks ago

maga family values...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 weeks ago
What is the likelihood that this guy would have fought tooth and nail to avoid paying a penny in child support?

I would say highly likely. Was he going to take care of the kid if she handed it to him and said here...you wanted him...now you take care if it? Of course then she would be liable for child support

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
6  Gordy327    2 weeks ago

Anti abortion laws/restrictions are anti women, plain and simple.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6.1  charger 383  replied to  Gordy327 @6    2 weeks ago

and anti men too, child support and by pushing them into a marriage they might not want to be in 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
6.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  charger 383 @6.1    2 weeks ago

Fair point. How some can be against abortion is beyond me. Especially given how it's no one else's business or concern.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

[deleted][]

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
7  evilone    2 weeks ago

This case has no chance of winning. It does serve to illustrate the ludicrous lengths anti-choicers will go to impose their control on others. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
7.1  Gordy327  replied to  evilone @7    2 weeks ago

I believe someone mentioned the word "zealot," which perfectly describes the ludicrous lengths some anti choicers will go to impose their will on women.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
7.1.1  evilone  replied to  Gordy327 @7.1    2 weeks ago

The zealots haven't stopped with women. It's anything that challenges their status quo. Sexual freedom is just the topic du jour.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
7.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  evilone @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

And yet, they still cannot provide a rational or legal reason to restrict abortion. Abortion restrictions are about power, control, and/or cruelty towards women. 

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
7.1.3  evilone  replied to  Gordy327 @7.1.2    2 weeks ago
And yet, they still cannot provide a rational or legal reason to restrict abortion.

Their legal scholars had to invent a whole new concept of law over a decade to even try, which is often nonsensical and contradictory. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  evilone @7    2 weeks ago

I hope it will cost him an arm and a leg. 

 
 

Who is online