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Joe Biden trails Donald Trump in new national poll on 2024 election

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  4 weeks ago  •  88 comments

By:   Story by Melissa Cruz

Joe Biden trails Donald Trump in new national poll on 2024 election
Even as Trump faces four sets of unprecedented criminal charges, his favor among some Americans has continued to rise: 55% of voters say they now view Trump's first term as a success.

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Former President Donald Trump  leads  President Joe Biden  by six percentage points in a new  national poll  from CNN, with nearly half of voters saying they're planning to place their support behind Trump this fall.

Forty-nine percent of those polled say they are expecting to vote for Trump in the 2024 election, compared to Biden's 43%, according to the survey, released Sunday. Trump’s support remains basically unmoved from CNN’s last poll in January, while Biden’s has dropped two percentage points, down from 45%.Biden does not fare much better in a five-way matchup between himself; Trump; Independent candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and  Cornell West ; and  Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

In that scenario, Biden garnered just 33% of the vote, while Trump held 42%. Kennedy polled at 16%, siphoning 13% of the vote away from Trump and Biden. Meanwhile, West polled at 4% and Stein at 3%.

Even as Trump faces four sets of unprecedented criminal charges, his favor among some Americans has continued to rise: 55% of voters say they now view Trump's first term as a success. In contrast, 44% see it as a failure.

Americans' tendency  to look back at past presidencies with rose-colored glasses is common. Still, the overall opinion of Trump's presidency has markedly increased since he left office. A January 2021 poll, taken days after the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, showed that 55% of voters considered his presidency a failure.

The polling for Biden, now well into his first term as president, does not benefit from the same retrospection. Among those polled, 61% call his presidency a failure, and 39% said it's been a success, according to the poll released Sunday.

The chunk of Americans calling Biden’s presidency a failure has risen by four percentage points since January 2022.

That number appears to reflect voters’ feelings on several issues, including negative impressions on his handling of the economy, inflation and student loan debt. His lowest rating stems from the  Israel-Hamas war , with 71% disapproving of his handling of the conflict.

The CNN poll was conducted in mid-April, using a random national sample of 1,212 adults, including 967 registered voters. The poll's results among registered voters had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.8 points.

With over six months before the general election, it remains to be seen how the polls could shift in time. When asked in 2022 about his waning support in public opinion polling, Biden  responded , “I don’t believe the polls.”

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY:   Joe Biden trails Donald Trump in new national poll on 2024 election


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

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The dems really need a conviction of the former President. They are all in on it. Lawfare has its drawbacks. They may look bad whether they are able to convict him and really bad if they fail at this point.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago

Looking at your little meme, I feel the need to point a few things out.

Border = lie.

Crime = lie.

War = lie.

Vaccination = lie.

Dementia = lie.

Crackhead son is personal, nothing to do with the election or position and a least Biden's son has gotten help, unlike Trump Jr..

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 weeks ago

"uh-uh" does not make a compelling argument.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 weeks ago
Looking at your little meme, I feel the need to point a few things out.

But no metrics, only Ozzy assertions. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
But no metrics, only Ozzy assertions.

Do you see any metrics in Vic's little picture?  Yet you are standing up for his claims.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
Do you see any metrics in Vic's little picture? 

Absolutely, quantitative measurements that you failed to dispute.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
Absolutely, quantitative measurements that you failed to dispute.

What measurements?  Just numbers with no related facts to justify.  Not even a link to a story that attempts to justify.  There is absolutely no measurable (quantitative) facts attached to the made up numbers that he posted.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
What measurements?

More than what you offered, "lie" in 1.1 

 Just numbers with no related facts to justify.  Not even a link to a story that attempts to justify.

Easier to validate than just 'lie" in 1.1

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
More than what you offered, "lie" in

But at least my post was more truthful.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  seeder  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Trump and DeSantis met privately in Miami this morning.

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Could it mean 12 more years?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 weeks ago

So he likes mushrooms a lot obviously.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    4 weeks ago

Wha?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.2    4 weeks ago

That brings up a question.

Have you noticed how many of the rabid pro-Palestinian protestors are women.

Why is that?

Anyone?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    4 weeks ago

Pretty ironic eh? 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.5  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    3 weeks ago
So he likes mushrooms a lot obviously.

What kind of a person would vote for someone who likes Mushrooms?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  seeder  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

And this just in from Afroman:

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    4 weeks ago

About Hunter, I find it confusing that a man who wants to take guns away would have named his son Hunter. A hunter uses guns. Just another illogical thing about Biden. Did he think differently way back then? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    4 weeks ago

As a Democrat, I am sure Biden has "evolved" on any number of issues when it becomes apparent enough that his stance isn't popular with the Democratic base.  

I give you the border as a PRIME example.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    4 weeks ago

Do you honestly think he named him Hunter because of hunting and or guns??????????????????????

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    4 weeks ago

Do you honestly believe that Biden's policies have been effective in managing the border crisis?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    4 weeks ago
find it confusing that a man who wants to take guns away would have named his son Hunter.

Sort of like a guy who claims he wants the rich to pay their fair share in taxes had his DOJ let his son of the hook for hundreds of thousands in back taxes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    3 weeks ago

Let's put it this way: back then he was at least thinking on his own.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.4    3 weeks ago

Funny how we are not hearing a thing about the Hunter case. They have it tight as a drum.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    3 weeks ago
Funny how we are not hearing a thing about the Hunter case. They have it tight as a drum.

Maybe they will try to drag it out long enough for the statute of limitations runs out.

Oh, wait, I forgot those statutes don't apply any longer.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.8  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

Because there was no there there Comer cried "Uncle"...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.8    3 weeks ago

Biden's team props him up and trots him out for a few minutes every week or so.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.8    3 weeks ago

Then what is the so-called special prosecutor investigating?

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Vic Eldred
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3.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.7    3 weeks ago

My guess is that as soon as they know that Biden loses, Hunter will plea down all charges, and we will get him convicted with some community service.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.11    3 weeks ago
Hunter will plea down all charges

He had a real sweetheart deal until a moral judge saw through the ploy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Wasn't that something.  They almost got away with that too.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

I am still waiting for a Bidenista to explain who "the big guy" is that was getting 10% since not a one of the people who testified ever named anyone but Joe Biden.

Of course, without partisan blinders, that has always been pretty easy to see.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    3 weeks ago
They almost got away with that too.

I am sure the Biden Family was sorely disappointed the sweetheart deal fell through.

Everything wasn't just swept under a rug and forgotten, much to their chagrin.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.16  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.14    3 weeks ago

The democrats will not accept anything less than a photo of Chairman Xi putting money into Joe Biden's pocket.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.15    3 weeks ago

They got by the worst of it. Now they only need to get Hunter to plead guilty to very minor charges with no jail time before a President Trump appoints somebody like me as his AG.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.16    3 weeks ago
The democrats will not accept anything less than a photo of Chairman Xi putting money into Joe Biden's pocket.

Come on, man!

They wouldn't even accept that.

They'd get a bunch of former "intelligence" folks to lie through their teeth and claim it was Russian disinformation or a Russian plant.

Hell, if Joe Biden came on televisions and said outright "I made money from foreigners through my son's businesses and it was indeed illegal", some sycophants would still insist on his innocence.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.19  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.18    3 weeks ago

They would probably say he was under the influence of cocaine

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.17    3 weeks ago

I think Hunter will come to regret his decision to testify before Congress--or at least what his testimony said.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @3.1    3 weeks ago

That's so moronic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.22  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.20    3 weeks ago

Right now, Hunter is threatening to sue Fox News:

H unter Biden is threatening to sue  Fox News  for defamation, exploitation of his image and publication of hacked photographs, according to a letter obtained by Axios that was sent to the news channel last week.

Why it matters:  It's the latest salvo in the president's son's  more aggressive legal and press strategy  over the past year amid criminal charges and tabloid coverage, and first big move after navigating the  impeachment inquiry  into his father.

Hunter Biden declares war on Fox News (msn.com)

I guess the Sullivan law only belongs to far-left news outlets.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.19    3 weeks ago
They would probably say he was under the influence of cocaine

Isn't it rather odd that one of the most protected buildings in the entire world had cocaine in it and absolutely no one knows where it came from.

But somehow, we can figure out Joe Blow from Timbuktu was at the Capitol on January 6.

Amazing stuff!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.24  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.23    3 weeks ago

And left-wing media put that out and expected everyone to believe nobody knew how it got there.  We have people here who buy every bit of it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.22    3 weeks ago

He should sue MTG for showing dick pics.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.25    3 weeks ago
He should sue MTG for showing dick pics.

I bet Hunter really regrets not bothering to pick up his laptop now, huh?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.27  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.25    3 weeks ago

He left his computer at a repair shop. After a long time, they become public property, especially when Hunter pretended it wasn't his.

Do you know where the laptop is?

The FBI took possession of it, and they say they can't find it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.28  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.25    3 weeks ago
He should sue MTG for showing dick pics.

How did Hunter's dick pics end up on a Russian-planted computer again?

Please explain.

This just HAS to be fascinating!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.29  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.24    3 weeks ago
We have people here who buy every bit of it.

sadly, we have some folks who are really, really gullible.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.14    3 weeks ago
who "the big guy" is that was getting 10% since not a one of the people who testified ever named anyone but Joe Biden.

but that's not evidence!  Testimony and a written record don't count. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.32  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
Do you honestly think he named him Hunter because of hunting and or guns??????????????????????

I could be wrong-- but I think it may because of the mushrooms!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.33  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.27    3 weeks ago
He left his computer at a repair shop. After a long time, they become public property, especially when Hunter pretended it wasn't his.

Man, them there Russians sure are craftly little devils, aren't they?

Imagine the foresight and planning involved in searching out some obscure little computer repair shop to plant the computer in.

Imagine coercing the owner of the shop to turn it over to the FBI.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.34  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.29    3 weeks ago

I believe they're on strike.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.35  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.33    3 weeks ago

Sheer genius!

Hillary knew!

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.36  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

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Ozzwald
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3.1.37  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.27    3 weeks ago
He left his computer at a repair shop. After a long time, they become public property, especially when Hunter pretended it wasn't his.

The laptop became became the property of the shop owner, and not "public property".  However the data on the laptop remained Hunter's. 

I've never seen a quote from Hunter stating it wasn't his.  Please provide link to that quote.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.38  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.37    3 weeks ago

do your own research.

I suggest Googling "Did hunter Biden deny laptop was his"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.39  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.37    3 weeks ago
 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.40  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.39    3 weeks ago
Hunter Biden says he doesn’t know if Delaware laptop was his | The Hill

Congratulations!  You just disproved your very own statement!!!

FYI, "I don't know" does not equal "It's not mine".  But kudos to you for admitting the truth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.41  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.40    3 weeks ago

It confirms that he refused to admit it was his.

Thanks for playing and have a wonderful day.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.42  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.41    3 weeks ago
It confirms that he refused to admit it was his.

It confirms that he didn't know if it was his or not.  Nothing more, claiming otherwise would be the lie.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.43  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.41    3 weeks ago

Admitting defeat . . . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.44  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.42    3 weeks ago
It confirms that he didn't know if it was his or not.

Comon Ozzwald.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 weeks ago
The CNN poll was conducted 

If the Democrat propaganda outlet won't cover for their candidate, and is showing shitty polling, you are doing pretty bad.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    4 weeks ago

They are in trouble, and they know it.

The country is fed up with the radical left.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 weeks ago

The exact opposite of that is true.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

What is true is that my friend Afroman has put on a lot of weight.

He is quite right about Hunter. The brothers would go to jail forever if they did what Hunter did.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    4 weeks ago

So far, it looks 100% correct.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 weeks ago

Don't worry.  I don't expect the truth 'here'.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.4    3 weeks ago

Have a wonderful day.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    3 weeks ago

Admitting defeat . . .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  seeder  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

JUST IN:

Trump writes, “Israel will find, very sadly, that there are far fewer hostages than currently being thought. That’s why it’s hard for Hamas to make a deal - They are no longer able to produce the people, because many of them are gone. Hamas is incapable of holding Jewish people for a long period of time without killing them, and it will only get worse! ZERO leadership from Biden. October 7th WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IF I WERE PRESIDENT - NOT EVEN A SMALL CHANCE!!!”

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 https://t.co/Jhm4dSsAaA" / X (twitter.com)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    4 weeks ago

Yet another reason why you can't negotiate with terrorists.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    4 weeks ago

And also, a reason why you never vote for somebody who hides in his basement.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
And also, a reason why you never vote for somebody who hides in his basement.

But OTOH, the basement is perfect for Mushrooms-- they like the dark.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

The sad tale of the basement: mushrooms and morons.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    4 weeks ago
ZERO leadership from Biden

We've seen that for the past 50 years.  Yet people are gullible enough to back this failure.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2    4 weeks ago
Yet people are gullible enough to back this failure.

I think even the gullible are coming round.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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6  Snuffy    4 weeks ago

As I said elsewhere, I don't get too excited about national polling for the presidential race. Most states already have the winner of that contest baked in thanks to many years of gerrymandering. There's really only a handful of states that are in play and the state polling in those areas are rather bad for Biden. I don't have an opinion on how the legal issues are going to impact Trump, I've heard there are some independents who state they won't vote for a convicted felon but we'll have to wait till November to see the outcomes. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

The obsession with convicting Trump before trial is clear after seeing these  numbers. Trump has never polled this well in a national race before this cycle.

Biden won in 2020 because people who didn't like Trump or Biden split heavily for Biden. Now, after three years of the Joe Biden experience, those same voters are voting for Trump. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8  Sparty On    4 weeks ago

The lefts only hope is that can find enough useful idiots to gaslight into voting for Biden.    

It could happen.    The massive programming offensive being implemented by their “resist” movement and our institutions of higher learning is working on full tilt boogie and picking up steam.

Wait until school gets out.    We are in for another summer of discontent.    Likely the worst we’ve ever seen.    Gird your loins people.    Gird em good …….

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @8    4 weeks ago
The lefts only hope is that can find enough useful idiots to gaslight into voting for Biden.

I don't think that will be a problem.

And not to worry, I am sure this summer will be as peaceful as the last time the idiots ran amok!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @8    3 weeks ago
We are in for another summer of discontent.

The Democratic convention in Chicago could be something. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    3 weeks ago

Already ordered my gross of popcorn

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    3 weeks ago

Shades of '68!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    3 weeks ago

I'm loving it!

They won't have the cops stand down for that one!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

56 year itch …..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @8.2.4    3 weeks ago

The great grandkids of the original left.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.2    3 weeks ago

It was a ground and head-breaking TV show in the summer of 68.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @8.2.6    3 weeks ago

Must see TV

 
 

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