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Foods that don't deserve bad reputations, according to dietitians

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  one month ago  •  143 comments

By:   Katie Mogg

Foods that don't deserve bad reputations, according to dietitians
Health experts say some foods have been wrongly villainized and can be healthier than people think. The list includes coffee, eggs and potatoes.

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Eggs, potatoes, coffee: These kitchen staples, among others, have gained bad reputations, nutrition experts say, but don't necessarily deserve it. In fact, registered dietitians, doctors and nutrition professors are increasingly advising people to eat them.

Nutrition advice is ever changing, which can leave consumers uncertain about which foods are actually healthy. NBC News asked nine health experts about the foods they think have been wrongly villainized. Here are some of the items they listedand the benefits people may miss out on if they forgo them entirely.

Eggs are packed with protein


Eggs have been demonized for being high in dietary cholesterol, which health experts once believed could contribute to heart disease, said Dr. Maya Vadiveloo, an associate professor of nutrition at the University of Rhode Island.

But updated science has debunked that notion, showing that dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol affect heart health differently.

Eating foods high in saturated fat, such as red meat, fried foods and fatty dairy can increase the type of blood cholesterol that raises one's risk of heart problems, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But consuming things with cholesterol, like eggs and shellfish, has little correlation to high cholesterol in the blood or a risk of heart disease.

Despite this shift, many people still view eggs poorly. Vadiveloo said that could also be because of other breakfast foods they're often paired with.

"When people think of eggs, they also think of bacon and home fries," she said — items that are high in salt and saturated fat. But on their own, eggs are nutritious, she added.

The American Heart Association says people can enjoy one or two eggs every day as a high-quality source of protein; each egg contains about 6 grams.

Eggs are also a source of vitamin D and choline, a nutrient that plays a role in metabolism, memory and muscle control.

Eggs even have a stamp of approval from the WeightWatchers program, which uses a point system to assign values to each type of food and drink based on its nutritional profile. Fruits, vegetables and lean meats are worth zero points, meaning followers of the diet don't need to measure their portions. Eggs have been on the "ZeroPoint" list since 2017.

Just don't fry your potatoes


It's no secret that how you cook and season food influences how healthy it is. Caroline Susie, a registered nutritionist and spokesperson for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, said potatoes have been demonized because of the unhealthy ways they're prepared.

"Potatoes are just fantastic. What happens is, unfortunately, we tend to screw them up by not eating the skin or frying or mixing them with everything under the sun, like sour cream and butter and bacon," Susie said. Such toppings add saturated fat, which should be limited to 13 grams or less per day, according to the American Heart Association.

A 2021 study found that consuming higher quantities of french fries was associated with anincreased risk for chronic diseases such as Type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. But boiled, baked and mashed potatoes weren't linked to a higher risk of hypertension in that study and were only slightly associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes.

Potato skins are high in fiber, which aids digestion. Potatoes also contain vitamin C and potassium, Susie added.

She advised roasting, baking, mashing or boiling potatoes and seasoning with olive oil, salt, pepper and herbs.

Frozen doesn't always mean less healthy


Seven nutrition experts bemoaned the common perception that frozen fruits and vegetables are less healthy than their fresh counterparts.

"Frozen vegetables and frozen foods are picked at their pinnacle of nutrient density and then flash-frozen. So in many cases, they retain higher nutrient content than their fresh counterparts," Vadiveloo said, "particularly when you live in a place that has more seasonal variation and availability."

Susie said that in addition to retaining their nutrients, frozen vegetables are sometimes cheaper than fresh ones and can help people prevent food waste.

"Sometimes when I buy fresh produce, it essentially just goes to, I joke, the veggie bin graveyard. It just goes there to die," she said. "But canned and frozen lasts longer."

A few cups of coffee are not cause for concern


Coffee's poor reputation comes from its caffeine, which is addictive and can cause jitters or anxiety for some people when overconsumed.

However, the Food and Drug Administration says people can drink up to four or five cups per day. Research shows coffee can contribute to a decreased risk of cancer, heart failure, Type 2 diabetes and even death.

Vadiveloo said she drinks three to five cups of coffee with milk every day. Studies suggest it can improve cognitive function, she said, so she believes coffee's benefits outweigh the potential drawbacks of caffeine consumption.

"That's a myth that I regularly debunk. Because a lot of people will say, 'Oh, I'm trying to reduce coffee or caffeine.' And the research just doesn't support that coffee, particularly if you're not adding a ton of added sugar or creamer and things like that, has any health risks within a reasonable consumption amount," Vadiveloo said.

Alicia Henson, the education specialist for the Master of Nutritional Sciences and Dietetics program at the University of California, Berkeley, said the health value of coffee — much like potatoes — depends on what's added.

"If you're going to Starbucks and you're drinking frappuccinos or you're drinking coffee that has a ton of added sugar and cream to it, then that's not necessarily a healthy addition," Henson said.

The type of carbohydrate makes all the difference


Experts said carbohydrates as a whole are often assumed to be unhealthy, in part because of the popularity of low-carb and ketogenic diets. But it's incorrect to think that all carbs are the same.

"It has to do with the quality of the carbohydrates — so refined versus whole grains," said Dr. Linda Shiue, an internist and the director of culinary and lifestyle medication at Kaiser Permanente.

Refined grains, such as those used to make processed food like white bread, crackers and pastries, lack the fiber and nutrients that make whole grains healthy, Shiue said. That includes iron and B vitamins. But quinoa, farro and brown rice, for instance, offer protein, magnesium, iron and fiber, which keeps you feeling full.

Dr. Melina Jampolis, a physician nutrition specialist with a private practice in Los Angeles,said she often recommends one particular whole grain to patients as a snack, much to their surprise: popcorn.

Many people associate popcorn with the movie theater version, which is full of salt, butter and sometimes sugar — and often sold alongside a large soda. But when you prepare popcorn at home with just olive oil and spices, Jampolis said, the snack is fibrous and can be part of a balanced diet. Research also shows popcorn contains phenolic acids, a type of antioxidant.

Jampolis added that people shouldn't fixate on avoiding any one food; instead, it's best to cultivate a healthy eating pattern that prioritizes whole foods over ultraprocessed items with added sugar.

"That's what the real experts do," she said. "We don't look at single foods necessarily in isolation."


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TᵢG
Professor Principal
1  TᵢG    one month ago

Great, because I like my espresso with unsweetened almond milk.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    one month ago

until I get 2 cups of coffee in me, I have the mental capacity of a ... well, you know ...

I've had espresso once in the last 40 years and got the shakes, so I won't do that ever again.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago
I've had espresso once in the last 40 years and got the shakes, so I won't do that ever again.

Those shakes do an awesome job of loosening everything up though.  Especially in the bowel vicinity.....

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shona1
PhD Quiet
1.1.2  shona1  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

Morning..see if you ate Vegemite that would never happen..😁

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.1.3  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

until I get 2 cups of coffee in me, I have the mental capacity of a ... well, you know ...

I've had espresso once in the last 40 years and got the shakes, so I won't do that ever again

I've known people who have very different reactions to coffee. One guy could drink two cups or so before bedtime and sleep like a baby-- but I've also known people who can have one cup in the afternoon and it keeps them awake at night!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @1.1.2    one month ago

Tried it once in New Zealand and found it was a acquired taste that I just did not care for. This was despite my Kiwi friends telling me how much I would like it.😏

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.1.2    one month ago

... er, ... no thank you.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.1    one month ago

... bran muffin and a large cup. then get out of my way...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.1.2    one month ago

sorry, I have a personal rule about not eating anything that looks like it's already been eaten once ...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @1.1.7    one month ago

Same here...............

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    one month ago

I'm hooked on iced mochas now, mostly the mocha though.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.8    one month ago

The first time I saw someone eat oysters on the half shell, I almost barfed.  

I'm allergic to clams so I can't eat them anymore, one of the few seafood items I liked.

I don't care for the taste of oysters.  I like crabs but they're a pain in the ass to pick.  

I don't care for most seafood, salmon included, which is too bad because seafood is so healthy.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.11  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    4 weeks ago

I'm eating a lot more fish now, since red meat is loaded with chemicals...

 
 
 
Waykwabu
Freshman Silent
1.1.12  Waykwabu  replied to  shona1 @1.1.2    4 weeks ago

I have my two slices of toast and vegemite every morning  !!!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.13  devangelical  replied to  Waykwabu @1.1.12    4 weeks ago

crickey, not another one ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.14  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.1.13    4 weeks ago

lucky for the rest of us that sandbar has a moat around it...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @1    one month ago

I have had Expresso only a few times in my life. As I am mildly hypertensive, those few times drove my blood pressure to much higher levels than normal and had me bouncing off walls. My daughter likes a coffee called Death wish Coffee. It is reputed to be the strongest coffee in the market. She laughs because I won't touch the stuff!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    one month ago

Strange how different individuals are.   I have no problem with caffeine.   I would have to drink a crazy amount of coffee to get ill effects and even then I would be "coffee'd out" (sick of coffee for the day) before the caffeine got to me.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    one month ago

Same here. I drink 3 cups every morning and there are times when I have Coca-Cola during the day and at night I sleep like a baby.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
1.2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    one month ago

Kopi luwak is traditional Indonesian coffee, very expensive because of the unusual production. Very ripe coffee beans are feed to civet cats.  The bean processing continued after the bans are excreted whole by the mammal.  I shit you not!

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
1.2.4  shona1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.3    one month ago

Morning...yes heard about that coffee...and it costs mega $$$...

I will just stick to my daily cappuccino either from the cafe or packet..

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2    one month ago

Spent the first 20 years of my adult life drinking Navy coffee that was thick and hyper strong, especially at sea. Did not get diagnosed as hypertensive until after I retired. I take medications for it and still drink coffee. I drink one or two cups of the leaded coffee in the morning and decaf later in the day. My blood pressure stays normal.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
1.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.5    one month ago

In my early Army days, in the field, if the was time in the morning, we had sock coffee.  You take on standard GI wool sock, fill it with ground coffee, heat a big pot a water to near boiling, tie the sock with a cord long enough to lay out of the pot and periodically stir.  

Nothing like a hot cup of joe to start the day.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.3    one month ago
Kopi luwak is traditional Indonesian coffee, very expensive because of the unusual production. Very ripe coffee beans are feed to civet cats.  The bean processing continued after the bans are excreted whole by the mammal.  I shit you not!

Sounds a lot like the way Argan oil is produced in Marocco  (but they use tree climbing goats).

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
1.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @1.2.7    one month ago

Yes, very much the same, except the oil is for your outside (skin, hair) while the coffee is for your inside.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.2.9  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.8    one month ago
Yes, very much the same, except the oil is for your outside (skin, hair) while the coffee is for your inside.

Correct! jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.10  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @1.2.4    one month ago
a friends brother retired to thailand a couple decades ago and started a coffee company where the beans pass thru elephants first.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.10    one month ago

I've heard of things like this - once they come out the other end - how is that processed???????

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.12  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.11    one month ago

supposedly the beans passing thru the elephant digestive system leaches out a chemical, formaldehyde I think...

once they come out the other end - how is that processed?

pick, rinse, roast...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.13  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.12    one month ago

I don't know how anyone could dress up a resume` with a job of picking coffee beans out of elephant shit though...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
1.2.14  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @1.2.13    one month ago

"Collaborated with a diverse team to produce new culinary products in high demand."

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.15  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.14    one month ago

quality control technician.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.16  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.15    one month ago

shitting and receiving...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.17  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.16    3 weeks ago

crap. that pun was pure gold, and nothing ...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

Good news, though I already knew most of it already.  I love eggs, and eat 2 or 3 of them a day, and I make potato salad with potatoes, eggs and some tomato but have to admit I also use mayonnaise with it.  As for coffee, a mug (equivalent of 2 cups) at breakfast every day.  So I'm good with this seed's news. 

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
2.1  bccrane  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago

I also have eggs and potatoes most every day, but I'm not a coffee drinker, but the good news is I make up for it with making popcorn every few days.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  bccrane @2.1    one month ago

I love popcorn, but it has to have butter and salt.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago
but have to admit I also use mayonnaise with it.

Mayo is just more eggs and some oil, maybe some vinegar.  If worried it is the easiest thing in the world to make yourself.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    one month ago

You have no idea how good you just made me feel.  I use mayo for egg salad sandwiches. tunafish sandwiches, mashed potatoes as well as my potato and egg salad, and I was always concerned about the health aspects of using it.  And what you just did is establish the saying "The truth will make you free."  LOL

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    one month ago

I remember seeing this mini blender kind of thing where you could make your own mayo.  You put the egg and the other ingredients in it, and blend, and presto!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.2.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    one month ago

I like all that you mentioned above, but I use Miracle Whip salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @2.2.3    one month ago

Back in Canada I used Miracle Whip myself, but they don't sell it here, and I'm happy with the sugar-free mayo I can get. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
3  sandy-2021492    one month ago

I never met a potato I didn't like.  I do generally leave the skin on when I cook potatoes, and the skin is my favorite part.  I don't eat as many as I did growing up.

And I take my coffee black, no sugar.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago

a splash of sugar free french vanilla for me...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago

I grew up on potatos. We ate them with everything

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2    one month ago

a recovering catholic that ate potatoes everyday...

wtf? you know that I like to make fun of micks too, right?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
3.2.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2    one month ago

Same. They were a staple.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
3.3  shona1  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago

Morning..baked spuds can't beat them..

When we were kids and had bonfire nights (Guy Fawkes Nov 5th) now banned we would just throw the spuds into the fire..

When completely charcoaled pull them out, cut them open put some butter on and eat out the flesh..

These days they wrap them in aluminium foil and put on a BBQ..no where near the fun..

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
3.3.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  shona1 @3.3    one month ago

For me, a salad and a loaded baked potato are a meal.

I assume your bonfire nights are banned due to wildfires?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.3.2  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.3.1    one month ago

why does it always smell like fried rabbit this time of year?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @3.3    one month ago

Wasn't Guy Fawkes Night and bonfires banned in the 70's in parts of Australia due to the sharp increase of fireworks accidents among children? 

 
 
 
Waykwabu
Freshman Silent
3.3.4  Waykwabu  replied to  shona1 @3.3    4 weeks ago

Reminds me of my old scout camps !!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4  Tessylo  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    one month ago

That's the best for potatoes - that's where all the nutrients are.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.4.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @3.4    one month ago

we used to have a restaurant here that had potato skins on the menu. they also had a $40 pbj sandwich...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.4.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @3.4.1    one month ago

... the concept never got off the ground. it's a mexican restaurant now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    one month ago

I'm glad coffee is ok, or I'd probably be long gone.

I only wish fresh bread was on the list.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
4.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    one month ago
I only wish fresh bread was on the list.

I prefer homemade buttermilk biscuits and gravy.  And they are always on my list.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  mocowgirl @4.1    one month ago

For me it's fresh French bread (good for one day)

Fresh Scali bread (I only hold for 3 days)

Wheat bread for bacon & egg breakfast only.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
4.1.2  shona1  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    one month ago

Morning..wheat bread?? Errr what does that look like? Or is it what we call wholemeal bread?

Might have to try that if I can get it with my egg and bacon sanga..🦘

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.3  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @4.1.2    one month ago

it's beige. yeah, whole wheat.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.4  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @4.1.3    one month ago

boring americans like the beige color...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.1.5  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @4.1.4    one month ago

especially in subdivisions...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5  JohnRussell    one month ago
Eggs, potatoes, coffee

three of my favorites

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
6  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

Everything in moderation

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
6.1  shona1  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    one month ago

Morning Robert..my thoughts exactly..but when it comes to Vegemite there are no limits..🦘🦘

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
6.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @6.1    4 weeks ago

The only limit I have with vegemite was the one time I tried it and that was my limit!jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
6.2  Krishna  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    one month ago
Everything in moderation

Yup-- everything!

Cyanide,. Arsenic, Glycophosate ..

Use more Roundup ("in moderation")...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
6.3  Krishna  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    one month ago
Everything in moderation

And there's false notion that Cigarette smoking is bad for you-- a reputation that "surely isn't deserved".

(As long as it done "in moderation"). After all-- who are we to think we can question the advice of doctors?

In fact, there are definitely benefits to cigarette smoking-- as many doctors could've told you:

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Krishna @6.3    one month ago
as many doctors could've told you

... if they weren't already in a box underground.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @6.3.1    3 weeks ago

all the fun of smoking has been taken away. airlines, movie theaters, shopping malls, grocery stores, restaurants...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @6.3.2    3 weeks ago

bars, casinos...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.3.4  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @6.3.3    3 weeks ago

bowling alleys, stadiums ...

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
7  evilone    one month ago

I regularly cook breakfast on Saturdays & Sundays - eggs, bacon (sometimes sausage) and hashbrowns. 

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
7.1  shona1  replied to  evilone @7    one month ago

Morning evil...I do the same I cook up an egg and bacon sanga (sandwich)..put tomato sauce on the white bread throw on the bacon and egg and scoff off..

Must be doing something alright as my oncologist said just keep doing whatever it is you are doing.. that's good enough for me..🦘

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  shona1 @7.1    one month ago
Must be doing something alright as my oncologist said just keep doing whatever it is you are doing.. that's good enough for me..🦘

Great to hear, keep up the good fight.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
7.1.2  shona1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.1    one month ago

Morning Drinker..they say if you basically eat what your grandparents ate, you can't go to far wrong. Then everything was natural, chemical free and home grown..

I eat basically that, plain basic food that is unadulterated as much as possible.. they are wondering why there is a massive increase in cancers for people under the age of 40..I feel the crap food they eat has a lot to do with it...

Hope you are going well too..

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  shona1 @7.1.2    one month ago

I’m doing well, thanks for asking, Shona.  I had my 70th birthday two weeks ago, I thought my daughter was getting to extravagant with the her planned celebration, especially when I going to work the next day.  I told her that at my age, there doesn’t need to be much celebration.  She immediately said stop, just stop, a couple of years ago Mom and I didn’t even think that you would see this birthday,  Finally your well enough to celebrate and damn it that’s what we are going to do.

I’m proud to have such a smart daughter.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
7.1.4  shona1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.3    one month ago

Good on her for doing it..hope you had a great day and happy birthday for then..

No we don't know what is around the corner so celebrate and make the most of each day..

Any day walking above ground is a bonus rather than being below it..

I am going to a funeral today for a work friend..she fought leukaemia for 30 years. I think she would still be here if she hadn't lost her son 6 years ago in a car accident...it totally shattered the family and has been down hill ever since then...

I will miss her..🌺

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.5  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @7.1.4    one month ago

so very sad, my condolences.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
7.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  evilone @7    one month ago

I regularly cook breakfast on Saturdays & Sundays - eggs, bacon (sometimes sausage) and hashbrowns. 

Same here.  Weekends are for cooked breakfast, weekdays are smoothies.  For the last ten years I’ve been making a smoothie every weekday morning from scratch that has 19 ingredients and no added sugars.  Put it in an insulated cup and drink it all day.  It’s weird the habits we develop.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.2    one month ago

add biscuits and gravy and I could eat that weekend breakfast every day...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.2.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @7.2.1    one month ago

I've lost 80 lbs. before, I could probably do it again...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7.2.1    one month ago

I love breakfast any time of day - a friend and I used to get together - and make up scrambled eggs and scrapple and biscuits - for dinner.  It's so yummy when the biscuits are still warm to slap a little raspberry jam on them.  Yum.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.3  Krishna  replied to  evilone @7    one month ago
bacon

That also has a "bad reputation that surely isn't deserved"-- in fact all red meat is healthy as its a good source of protein!!! jrSmiley_34_smiley_image.gif

(Just make sure you use enough salt . . .  jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
8  charger 383    one month ago

Some good news

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9  mocowgirl    one month ago

Interesting this was on NT today.

This video talks about the toxic food industry that has switched our diets from real food to man-made chemicals posing as food.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.1  Krishna  replied to  mocowgirl @9    one month ago
switched our diets from real food to man-made chemicals posing as food.

I call this out-- its "FAKE NEWS"!!!

These manmade chemicals all have a bad reputation that's surely not deserved! jrSmiley_35_smiley_image.gif

 They are all harmless-- as long as they are " used in moderation" !!! 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10  CB    one month ago

I am so over these people telling us what to eat (a lot of). Because "periodically" they keep saying (or some one else does) something different about the same things. It causes an issue: Lack of credibility

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
10.1  shona1  replied to  CB @10    one month ago

Morning CB...just do your own thing and enjoy what you like and be happy with that..

Coffee time for me..🐨

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.1.1  CB  replied to  shona1 @10.1    one month ago

I love coffee! I am a one cup a day kind of guy. But, I have taken to consistently adding Nestle chocolate (no sugar added) to 'power up.' Don't know how it is working (or harming me) just yet, nevertheless.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
10.1.2  shona1  replied to  CB @10.1.1    one month ago

I like a cappuccino every morning.. having one now..left over from working days at Alcoa..a work habit that I have continued on and enjoy..

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CB
Professor Principal
10.1.3  CB  replied to  shona1 @10.1.2    one month ago

Tried to look that up: "Moccona Sweet Cappucino" got to a "Moccona" coffee website, but saw nothing that came in a bar or pouch. I wanted to read the back panel. :)

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
10.1.4  shona1  replied to  CB @10.1.3    one month ago

I just went and fished the box out of the rubbish bin for you..I wouldn't do this for everyone..you are very privileged..😊

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CB
Professor Principal
10.1.5  CB  replied to  shona1 @10.1.4    one month ago

LOL! Thank you, Shona! And to think that little ole me has 'pull' in Australia! I'm a 'big deal'! :)

At 7 grams (that I can make out) of sugar and 9 'carbs' it is definitely sweet and will like raise a diabetic's blood sugar. But hey! It's a morning 'brew' or can be and one has all day to work it out by bed-time! 

Sweet Cappuccino. . .the name says it all!  Yummies! :)

I may have to try and find it (or some other version of cappuccino) as I usually just drink "Black silk" (no pun intended), Columbian, or Arabica coffees. 

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
10.1.6  shona1  replied to  CB @10.1.5    one month ago

Can get quite a few varieties including skim, strong, caramel (pass)..etc..

I just had a squizz and it's not available in the States..I thought Moccona was a world wide brand but apparently not..

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
10.1.7  Krishna  replied to  CB @10.1.1    one month ago
I love coffee! I am a one cup a day kind of guy. But, I have taken to consistently adding Nestle chocolate (no sugar added) to 'power up.' Don't know how it is working (or harming me) just yet, nevertheless.

I am not an expert-- been I've been fascinated by nutrition-- have studied it for years.

This discussion is mainly about foods with a bad reputation that (supposedly) aren't harmful.

But there's a related topic-- foods with a bad reputation that are actually "superfoods"-- foods that are health-producing!

Interestingly, on superfood is Cacao-- a natural plant that has a chocolate flavour. Its one of the best things to eat for your health! (Chocolate bars have added sugar-- so I eat Cacao nibs instead-- still get the chocolate flavour plus the health benefits).

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
10.1.8  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @10.1.7    one month ago
But there's a related topic-- foods with a bad reputation that are actually "superfoods"-- foods that are health-producing!

Another is coffee! Because of the Caffeine, in the past many people considered it harmful. Individual reactions to caffeine vary tremendously-- but for people who know the amount they can drink that doesn't bother them, its actually a "Superfood"!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.9  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @10.1.6    one month ago

the south american side of my family adds a spoon of instant hot chocolate mix to their coffee. their coffee that will already strip paint off metal...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.10  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @10.1.9    one month ago

... stain your teeth the color of barbecue beans in a week.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1.11  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @10.1.10    3 weeks ago

... stare holes in the ceiling at night.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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10.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @10.1.11    3 weeks ago

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devangelical
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10.1.13  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.1.12    3 weeks ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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10.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10    one month ago
I am so over these people telling us what to eat (a lot of). Because "periodically" they keep saying (or some one else does) something different about the same things. It causes an issue: Lack of credibility

You don’t trust the scientific elites to know what is best for you?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.2.1  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2    one month ago

I don't do questions from MAGAs generally. (We've had this sharing before. Answering some MAGAs questions (and choosing not to answer some other MAGAs' questions caused a full-on disruption of this site!  And, that being so is too tasking for the site! It has lead to chaos and I don't want to be a part of 'organized' chaos on NT. 

Make a statement and I will see if I have anything to share once you do so!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10.2.1    one month ago
I don't do questions from MAGAs generally. (We've had this sharing before

Your assumption that I’m a MAGA is your bias running away with you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
10.2.3  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.2    one month ago

Actually it is reading your comments where you copy MAGAs' bull that hints of a racial stereotype that Blacks can't "speak" or write comprehensively enough ("Ebonics"). Yes, I went there because you do it quite often (even been doing it today on another and other thread/s.)

Whereas, I read your comment/s with some errors or minimal omissions and I interpret it/them for myself to glean your point and never go on, on, and on about it. That is, I am not petty about it.

Many of us are in here 'overlong' and accordingly we will get tired and words will drop out of sentences, letters will be missed, edits will 'misfire,' and even some sections of comments can be 'distorted' - hell, even 'tortured' - but, and I repeat, MAGAs go for the insults and condescension and you will 'pile on' or go solo in doing so too. 

Therefore, I have made a determination that I ought to simply not ask questions of MAGAs and their "supplementers" and they not ask questions of me so we can move forward without such foolishness and maybe accomplish something useful with the time and space NT allots us.

Make a statement and I will see if I have anything to share once you do so! 

Now, I am going back to the subject matter. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @10.2.3    one month ago
Actually it is reading your comments where you copy MAGAs' bull that hints of a racial stereotype that Blacks can't "speak" or write comprehensively enough ("Ebonics")

Do you have any examples like today’s threads that you mentioned or is it your imagination?

MAGAs go for the insults and condescension and you will 'pile on' or go solo in doing so too. 

Are you blind to the many insults from the left?

Now, I am going back to the subject matter. 

Why did you leave?  When were you last there?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.4    one month ago

stalking and taunting...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.2    one month ago
Your assumption that I’m a MAGA is your bias running away with you.

WELL, if you just aren't a full=blown Bidenista, that MUST mean you are MAGA.

It is truly some remarkable "thinking" that allows people to be so narrow-minded and feel they must pigeon-hole people into boxes they feel comfortable labeling others as.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @10.2.6    one month ago

you aren't fooling anyone.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @10.2.5    one month ago
stalking and taunting...

How comical, how can on feel stalked on a news, political forum discussion site?  Folks here make a general comment or a reply to someone else's previous comment - an online discussion.  Hard to understand how you can feel that I approach in a stealthy manner.  

Please provide examples of what you found to be taunting.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @10.2.7    one month ago
you aren't fooling anyone.

Since I wrote nothing with any intent to 'fool' anyone, that is great news!

Thanks for the confirmation!

Besides, some folks are simply too busy fooling themselves for me to worry about it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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10.2.10  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @10.2.7    4 weeks ago

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
10.2.11  Krishna  replied to  CB @10.2.3    4 weeks ago
Make a statement and

Don't do it...its a trap!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11  devangelical    one month ago

according to my doctor, everything I like to eat is bad for me. lucky for me he retired last year, except now I have to break in a new one in june.

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
11.1  shona1  replied to  devangelical @11    one month ago

Morning Devangy..so long as you keep your sense of humour you'll be right...

We all have to cark it from something.. so may as well enjoy what you like..

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devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.1  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @11.1    one month ago

damn straight. where's the quality of life in having to do or eat stuff you can't stand?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @11.1.1    one month ago

we weren't supposed to live this long, so everything past age 30 is gravy...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.3  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @11.1    4 weeks ago
so long as you keep your sense of humour

you really help me with that...

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
11.1.4  shona1  replied to  devangelical @11.1.3    4 weeks ago

Morning Devangy... anytime..

Not my photo..I am not that stupid to get that close to an emu...

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devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.5  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @11.1.4    4 weeks ago

there's a face only a mother could love...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
11.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @11.1.5    4 weeks ago

I actually think it's kinda cute.  In an ugly sort of way.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.7  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.1.6    4 weeks ago

... kind of reminds you of your prom date?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
11.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @11.1.7    4 weeks ago

Nah, my prom dates were both good-looking guys.  Two dates at two proms, to clarify.  Not two dates and one prom.  That wouldn't have been cool.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.9  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.1.8    4 weeks ago

... uh huh, sure.

my friends and I were in the parking lot with a keg and an inventory of liquor and drugs and cleaned up. later on, some of the school's athletes had misplaced their dates. the next year the prom committee instituted a no re-entry policy once participants exited the prom.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
11.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @11.1.9    4 weeks ago

We were a pretty tame bunch.  I did hear something about spiked punch a few years before our class, but our punch was watched over by a faculty member from the time it came out of the kitchen until the bowl was empty, so nobody had the chance.

The most exciting thing to happen at our prom was the math teacher's wife (they were chaperoning) going into labor.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1.11  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.1.10    4 weeks ago

geez, I bet that altered the collective mood for some other traditional post prom activities.

some of my friends and I enjoyed a hands-off policy during my senior year, since the drama clique I hung with had journalism students that had successfully sued the school district on 1st amendment grounds when we published an alternative newspaper, and some of our advertisers were frowned upon.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @11    one month ago

sometimes you just got to have a chili cheese dog and onion rings...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @11.2    one month ago

... or a family sized portion of mac and cheese covered with bacon bits.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
11.2.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @11.2.1    4 weeks ago

You can keep the chili cheese dog, but I'll fight you for some mac and cheese with bacon bits, and maybe some broccoli, so we can pretend we're eating healthy.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.2.3  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @11.2.2    4 weeks ago

you just drink a V8 and there's no guilt...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
11.3  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @11    4 weeks ago
according to my doctor, everything I like to eat is bad for me. lucky for me he retired last year,

Well that's good news!

(Now, finally-- you can eat whatever you want! jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12  devangelical    one month ago

a very liberal dosage of tabasco on the eggs, potatoes, and bacon completely negates the unhealthy aspect of that breakfast.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @12    one month ago

a regularity kick start too...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
13  devangelical    one month ago

damn, son number 2 is a great chef. last night was the first time I've ever had lamb that I didn't want to feed to the dog.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
13.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @13    one month ago

... under the dinner table when nobody was looking.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
13.1.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @13.1    4 weeks ago

"you don't want to try the mint jelly?"

no thank you... (your dog won't eat it)

 
 
 
shona1
PhD Quiet
13.2  shona1  replied to  devangelical @13    4 weeks ago

Morning...what you don't like roast lamb!!!

Ahhhh sacrilege...geez don't ever say that here or you will be croc bait in no time...

Can stick the mint sauce though just plain old gravy is the go...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
13.2.1  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @13.2    4 weeks ago

every female in my family cooks meat almost to the point of cremation. all the lamb I've ever had before was overcooked.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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13.2.5  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  devangelical @13.2.1    4 weeks ago

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