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FDNY chief John Hodges takes fall after The Post exposes Laura Kavanagh declaring department will 'hunt down' NY AG Letitia James hecklers

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  28 comments

By:   nypmetro (New York Post)

FDNY chief John Hodges takes fall after The Post exposes Laura Kavanagh declaring department will 'hunt down' NY AG Letitia James hecklers
A top FDNY chief is taking the fall over a Post report exposing how Commissioner Laura Kavanagh planned to "hunt" down who booed New York Attorney General Letitia James during a department promotion ceremony.

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A top FDNY chief is taking the fall over a Post report exposing how Commissioner Laura Kavanagh planned to "hunt down" firefighters and other stafferswho mercilessly booed New York Attorney General Letitia James during a department promotion ceremony.

In an email Tuesday to battalion chiefs, Chief of Department John Hodges backed off his prior internal announcement, admitting his use of the term "hunt'" was "a poor choice of words."

"It was not meant to be taken literally and was never uttered by anyone on the executive staff," he wrote. "Specifically, there was not, and is not, an investigation into members booing."

4Hodges backed off his prior internal announcement in an email to battalion chiefs this week. Paul Martinka4During the March 7 FDNY promotion ceremony at a Brooklyn church, James urged hecklers to "simmer down." NY Post

Hodges' March 9 email to FDNY deputy chiefs warned of a probe by the department's Bureau of Investigation and Trials, BITS, to identify which employees booed James — and chanted "Trump!" — when James took the podium at a promotion ceremony held two days before at the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn.

"I have been told by the commissioner it will be better for them if they come forward and we don't have to hunt them down," wrote Hodges, warning that BITS has video of the audience hissing at James.

"They will come to headquarters to be educated why their behavior is unacceptable," the email read.

Elected officials, union leaders and civil rights lawyers immediately ripped the directive as something seen in Communist China, and that it would be unconstitutional and violate free-speech laws.

4The FDNY had claimed it was prepared to use available video to track down who booed James. BRIGITTE STELZER

Pam Bondi, a former special advisor to ex-President Donald Trump, sent Kavanagh a letter Tuesday demanding she end the "political witch hunt."

The Trump-aligned America First Policy Institute think tank, whose litigation center she now heads, is "prepared" to provide legal aid to FDNY staffers "adversely affected by your unlawful actions," she warned.

In his Tuesday email, Hodges now claimed the booing was never the issue.

Instead, "there were allegations of other violations of department regulations" at the ceremony that need resolving, wrote Hodges, without being specific.

"We are reviewing those accusations and talking to our membership about appropriate behavior," Hodges added. "[The event] was in a church in which we were guests. I'd like to remind our members that their behavior matters, both in uniform and not in uniform."

On Friday, the FDNY would not explain the "other violations" and "accusations."

The department also refused to say how many firefighters or others at the ceremony, if any, had come forward as requested or been disciplined in any way.

"FDNY leadership is having ongoing conversations with our members about decorum during department events to ensure we are upholding the core values that make the FDNY the greatest fire department in the world," said spokeswoman Amanda Farinacci. "Being a NYC firefighter is an honor and we will continue to impress upon our members that their actions impact everyone who wears the uniform."

4Letitia James, John Hodges and Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh (sitting in front) during the promotion ceremony. BRIGITTE STELZER

She added, "At no point has there been an investigation into members booing," but did not explain the initial communication warning of just that.

Councilwoman Joann Ariola (R-Queens), who chairs the committee on fire and emergency management, said she believes the FDNY "pulled back" on the investigation because FDNY leaders are now embarrassed over the outcry.

"Politicians are going to get booed - that's part of the game," she said. "The FDNY shouldn't be in the business of shielding politicians from criticism, and that statement should never have been made in the first place."


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

This is the "democracy" that democrats want you to vote for.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

First thing these assholes do is to try to limit freedom of speech and attempt to punish and reeducate these courageous first responders who lost over 343 members in one day on 9/11. 23 police officers and 37 Port Authority officers were also killed.

I think this tendency to default to Marxist/Commie tactics has become part of many leftists' DNA thanks to being raised by ultra-liberal parents and indoctrinated by socialist professors in college.

Kinda scary, but not uncommon in Democrat ranks. And they have the temerity to whine about Trump destroying democracy....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    one month ago

The choice is clear for the voters in November.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    one month ago
The choice is clear for the voters in November

it sure is. vote the maga afflicted out of office on 11/5, or learn to accept their vile stench every day afterwards.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    one month ago

Vote Democrat and they will complete the transformation of our country into a more woke, broke, and dumber version of China.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.4  Thomas  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    one month ago
First thing these assholes do is to try to limit freedom of speech and attempt to punish and reeducate these courageous first responders who lost over 343 members in one day on 9/11. 23 police officers and 37 Port Authority officers were also killed.

How exactly have "they" tried to limit freedom of speech? By expressing a desire to observe standards of decorum? 

What in the world does 9/11/2001 have to do with a graduation ceremony in 2024? 

FDNY commissioner apologizes after firefighters boo state attorney general

By  David Lazar ,   Dean Meminger ,   and Spectrum News Staff   Brooklyn
UPDATED 6:45 AM ET Mar. 11, 2024   PUBLISHED 9:15 PM ET Mar. 10, 2024

FDNY Commissioner Laura Kavanaugh issued an apology to a crowd at the Christian Cultural Center last week after state Attorney General Letitia James was booed by firefighters during a promotion ceremony at the Brooklyn church Thursday.

"We have decades of training and discipline that none of us want to see tarnished by the unprofessional behavior of a few," Kavanaugh said Sunday.

Of course the rag that is The Post   had a disparaging word or 2000 about Kavanaugh

FDNY Commissioner  Laura Kavanagh  is hunting down smoke-eaters and other staffers who mercilessly booed New York Attorney General Letitia James – and cheered in support of Donald Trump – during a department promotion ceremony this week, The Post has learned.

When it was FDNY Chief of Department John Hodgens who used the word " hunt " in an email. To wit:

“I recommend they come forward. I have been told by the commissioner it will be better for them if they come forward and we don’t have to hunt them down,” 

I am sure that they are all quivering in their bathrooms afraid to answer the door.

It is not clear from either of The Post's articles whether or not she actually used the word " hunt ." In fact, from the reportage surrounding the event, it does not appear that she did. So the whole headline " Top FDNY chief takes fall for commish declaring department will ‘hunt down’ NY AG Letitia James hecklers " is wrong, because it was John Hodgens who made the statement to begin with. 

So, In other words, this is a tempest in a teapot. But I really did not expect anything else. 

I think this tendency to default to Marxist/Commie tactics has become part of many leftists' DNA thanks to being raised by ultra-liberal parents and indoctrinated by socialist professors in college.

Wow, that is a lot to unpack in a brief rebuttal.... First, it is a strawman argument because you define all liberals as Marxist/Commie's, and I am not really sure it is possible to bake anything into the DNA, and the assumption is that all liberals are unthinking automatons who do exactly as their parents/teachers/counselors would have them. You have had children?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @1.1.4    one month ago

Also look to who voted up that nonsense.  They agree with - whatever it is that he said - they don't even know.

lol

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     one month ago

So the Chief wanted them to handle themselves like gentlemen, oh the horror of it, and in a church no less. She was drowned out with chants of ''Trump''.....Classy for sure. /s

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Kavika @2    one month ago

Your support of this hateful, vindictive, and misguided woman is not unexpected.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    one month ago

Your description of her as "hateful, vindictive and misguided" is pure projection.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Thomas @2.1.1    one month ago

Thanks for your opinion. Have a nice day.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    one month ago

You let him off easy.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.4  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    one month ago

Decorum has lost its way in the Trumpian fever dream.

The FDNY defended the moves .

“Nobody is hunting anyone down. We’re looking into those who clearly broke department regulations,” said spokesman Jim Long. “It has nothing to do with politics. It’s about professionalism at an official event held in a house of worship.”

James was invited to speak at the event to honor her friend, The Rev. Pamela Holmes, who was being sworn in as the department’s second female chaplain, and the first Black woman to hold that title.
 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @2.1.4    one month ago

Decorum, class, decency?  The former 'president' and his cult have no clue when it comes to these things.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @2.1.1    one month ago

BINGO!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    one month ago

That's the truth.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.8  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    one month ago
Your support of this hateful, vindictive, and misguided woman is not unexpected.

That is some case of projection that you have, Greg. I'm relieved that it's not unexpected since I don't want you to shit your pants reading something that is a shock to you. 

Cheers.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Thomas @2.1.4    one month ago

They broke department regulations so now you have to pay the price for doing something so stupid. That how life is, take responsibility for you immature actions. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.8    one month ago

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Snuffy
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2.1.11  Snuffy  replied to  Thomas @2.1.4    one month ago

Except the article doesn't show what department regulations were broken. All it does is sound like they are trying to walk back an error while still trying to maintain they did nothing wrong. If you know of what regulations were broken, why not post that so a proper discussion can be had. Without additional knowledge, all we really have here is partisan talking points.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @2.1.9    one month ago
They broke department regulations so now you have to pay the price for doing something so stupid.


Do you mean John Hodges since apparently  Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh and the attending fire fighters aren’t paying a price.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    one month ago

The FDNY had claimed it was prepared to use available video to track down who booed James.

That progressives support imposing a police state to track down and punish people for dissenting from their ideology is the least surprising thing ever.  They look at the CCP and feel nothing but jealousy. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

Freedom of speech seems to be limited by some to those who do not heckle or disparage the members of a specific group or political party 

While the Shouts of "Trump" are certainly not something a most people want to hear, the people have the right to heckle, disparage even ridicule the AG

I am supportive of the cases brought against Trump needing to be heard in court (and more rapidly than they are progressing), but the opposition has the right to question the motivation of the prosecutors..   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4    one month ago

Their motivation is to bring someone who is obviously guilty of all counts against it to justice.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @4.1    one month ago

That is an admirable motivation and opinion held by many people and I respect it, but the fact that some people disagree and wish to express their disagreement is also a valid position and opinion which I also respect.

We cannot suppress or limit free speech simply because we dislike the message which is what the chief seems to be trying to do in this case.

If the AG of NY does not want to face disagreement or public condemnation of her actions, I am afraid she is in the wrong position - it comes with the job.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5  Drinker of the Wry    one month ago

They were NY’s Bravest on 11 Sep.

The AG enjoyed freedom of speech during her campaign,  “I’m running for attorney general because I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.”

 
 
 
charger 383
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6  charger 383    one month ago

They should have had a speaker the firefighters respected.  This was to honor firefighters, not be a photo op for a politician. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  charger 383 @6    one month ago

Excellent point!

 
 

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