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Trump's TikTok ban reversal comes after meeting megadonor who has stake in TikTok

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  krishna  •  one month ago  •  82 comments

By:   BySoo Rin Kim and Lalee Ibssa

Trump's TikTok ban reversal comes after meeting megadonor who has stake in TikTok
The popular platform "is about free speech and innovation," the donor has said.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


As Donald Trump reverses his position on potentially banning TikTok ahead of an expected House vote this week on legislation that could lead to it being blocked in the U.S., the former president has been rebuilding his relationship with a GOP megadonor who reportedly has a major financial stake in the popular social media platform.

Trump met with the donor, hedge fund manager Jeff Yass, earlier this month at a Club for Growth donor retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, on March 1.

The Club for Growth, a conservative political organization to which Yass has donated millions of dollars, has opposed anti-TikTok efforts.

The group's president   last year wrote : "Giving the government the power to ban apps and pick and choose between competing apps is a huge restriction on phone freedom."

The former president, who had   originally spearheaded   efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the White House, reversed his stance last week, posting on his own social media platform that getting rid of TikTok would benefit Facebook and that he doesn't want that to happen, suggesting Facebook is a bigger problem for the country.


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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

As Donald Trump reverses his position on potentially banning TikTok ahead of an expected House vote this week on legislation that could lead to it being blocked in the U.S., the former president has been rebuilding his relationship with a GOP megadonor who reportedly has a major financial stake in the popular social media platform.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @1    one month ago

If there was ever any doubt as to just how corrupt Trump is, this should dispel those doubts.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.1  goose is back  replied to  cjcold @1.1    one month ago
If there was ever any doubt as to just how corrupt Trump is, this should dispel those doubts

Trump may know something about TikTok that the rest aren't aware. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  goose is back @1.1.1    one month ago
Trump may know something about TikTok that the rest aren't aware. 

Wouldn't Hunter's Chinese friends be keeping him in the loop?

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @1.1    one month ago
If there was ever any doubt as to just how corrupt Trump is, this should dispel those doubts.

Good point! jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.4  goose is back  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    one month ago
Wouldn't Hunter's Chinese friends be keeping him in the loop?

You would think, it will be funny if Biden veto's the bill. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    one month ago
Wouldn't Hunter's Chinese friends be keeping him in the loop?

Many people may not be aware of it, but this article actually  isn't about President Biden. jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

Perhaps the wording (from the original source) may not be perfectly clear-- but its actually about ex-president and numerously indicted ex-president Donald Trump. jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  goose is back @1.1.4    one month ago
Hunter's Chinese friends

???

Are you perhaps referring to this:

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  goose is back @1.1.4    one month ago
u would think, it will be funny if Biden veto's the bill. 

I would expect him to. China will want an ROI.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  goose is back @1.1.4    one month ago
it will be funny if Biden veto's the bill.

A veto would depend on how much money hit's Traitor Joes bank account.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.10  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.1.6    one month ago

Are you perhaps referring to this:

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits

And then of course there's this;

As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.

A previously unknown Chinese Bank account? 

Trump?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.9    one month ago
A veto would depend on how much money hit's Traitor Joes bank account.

Well, the money would most likely have to travel through at least a couple of Biden shell companies first, then into the account of a Biden Family member, then into Joe's account under the heading of "LOAN REPAYMENT"!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @1.1.6    one month ago
???

Are you perhaps referring to this:

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits

Are you claiming the same Chinese who bought Trump bought Hunter?

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.13  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.1.10    one month ago

Are you perhaps referring to this:

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits

And then of course there's this;

As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.

A previously unknown Chinese Bank account? Trump?

Who woulda thunk?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @1.1    one month ago

Forget it, some hold him to no standards whatsoever.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Krishna @1.1.5    one month ago

Some would have nothing if it weren't for projection, deflection and denial.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.16  goose is back  replied to  Krishna @1.1.6    one month ago
Are you perhaps referring to this:

No.  I believe Trump is aware of Tik Tok possibly being sold to an American Company.

 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Krishna @1    one month ago

in light of trump's financial situation, it's safe to assume he would do anything for a large enough sum of cash...

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

Trump met with the donor, hedge fund manager Jeff Yass, earlier this month at a Club for Growth donor retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, on March 1.

Yass owns a significant stake in in TikTok's China-based parent company ByteDance, The Wall Street Journal reported  last year.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Krishna @2    one month ago

Yass, worth $28 billion would be a good friend to have, given Trumps need to guarantee a $500 million bond in a few weeks.

Chubb insurance guaranteed the $91 million E Carrol bond.

In other news, Trump reversed his position on woke Bud Light about 5 hours after Anheuser Busch announced a 

$10 thousand a plate fund raiser for the former POTUS. 

The market reacted slightly to the positive, further benefitting Mr. Trump who holds $5 million in Anheuser Busch common stock.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @2.1    one month ago

Doesn't the interest go up on that $500 million daily?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    one month ago

Yes, the clock is ticking...

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

The former president, who had    originally spearheaded   efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the White House, reversed his stance last week

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @3    one month ago
The former president, who had      originally spearheaded      efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the White House, reversed his stance last week

Reversed??

Isn't the proper term "evolved"?

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    one month ago
The former president, who had      originally spearheaded      efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the White House, reversed his stance last week

Reversed??

Isn't the proper term "evolved"?

Nice try-- but no cigar! 

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Texan1211
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3.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    one month ago
Nice try-- but no cigar! 

You may be right, I keep forgetting that only Democrats "evolve" while everyone else flip-flops, my mistake!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    one month ago

Reversed??

Isn't the proper term "evolved"?

Nice try-- but no cigar! 

If anyone wants to report my comment as off-topic, please know it ain't that-- rather it just that my usual sarcasm has evolved into merely using trite cliches.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    one month ago
You may be right, I keep forgetting that only Democrats "evolve" while everyone else flip-flops, my mistake!

Don't feel bad-- everyone makes mistakes! jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @3.1.4    one month ago
Don't feel bad-- everyone makes mistakes!

Oh, I don't!

I don't care to keep up with the liberals' political correctness of today when it changes on a whim to suit them politically or to "support" some vague argument.

I'll just leave it to the other libs to point out whenever it changes!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @3.1.3    one month ago

It's your seed. You can't be off topic in your own seed

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    one month ago
It's your seed. You can't be off topic in your own seed

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Sparty On
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3.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    one month ago

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Sparty On
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3.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.8    one month ago

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George
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3.1.10  George  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.9    one month ago

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Texan1211
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3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @3    one month ago
The former president, who had    originally spearheaded   efforts to ban TikTok during his time in the White House, reversed his stance last week

Is this the bill cosponsored by a Democrat to ban Tik Tok which President Biden has already said he'd sign?

 
 
 
George
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4  George    one month ago

Show of hands, who thinks Donald trump can reverse a ban on tiktoc?

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1  evilone  replied to  George @4    one month ago
Show of hands, who thinks Donald trump can reverse a ban on tiktoc?

Show of hands, who thinks a ban on tiktok can survive a court challenge?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @4.1    one month ago

I don't think it can. I'm of the opinion that you can't ban it from the general public because of people are allowed to express their opinion on almost any platform and Tik  Tok is one such platform

 
 
 
George
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4.1.2  George  replied to  evilone @4.1    one month ago

That will be an interesting case, if you are talking about for general public, but industry and the government have an absolute right to ban it on phones that you use for business or government work.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  George @4.1.2    one month ago
but industry and the government have an absolute right to ban it on phones that you use for business or government work.

I believe Biden did already ban federal employees from Tik Tok while on their government phones.

Imagine that!

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.4  evilone  replied to  George @4.1.2    one month ago
...industry and the government have an absolute right to ban it on phones that you use for business or government work.

That has already happened and is not being questioned. This bill running through Congress -

...would enact a new authority to ban apps in “narrowly defined situations” when they are controlled by a foreign adversary, New Jersey Rep. Frank Pallone, the ranking Democrat on the Energy and Commerce Committee,  said  before the committee Thursday.

This is a complete ban of the app in the US. Furthermore - 

...legal experts say that an indirect ban may still be unconstitutional under the First Amendment. Civil society groups including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Democracy and Technology  wrote in a recent letter to federal lawmakers  that jeopardizing access to TikTok — “home to massive amounts of protected speech and association” — also “jeopardizes access to free expression.” There are also arguably less restrictive and more effective means of protecting any national security interests at stake in this bill, they asserted, considering the Chinese government could continue to access Americans’ data in other ways.

Source:

 
 
 
George
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4.1.5  George  replied to  evilone @4.1.4    one month ago

Again, it would be an interesting case, Why? is it a national security threat? They can absolutely embargo from foreign countries products deemed unsafe, I guess the reason why they want to ban it.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.6  evilone  replied to  George @4.1.5    one month ago
Again, it would be an interesting case...

It is.

is it a national security threat?

If it goes to court the government would have to show it is.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    one month ago
Imagine that!

I'm imagining it-- as we speak!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @4.1.7    one month ago

I'm proud of you!

yay!!!!!

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Split Personality
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4.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  evilone @4.1    one month ago

The exact legislation, voted out of the House committee yesterday by a 50-0 vote, gives the parent company with close ties to the CCCP, six months to find a US buyer  with no foreign ties.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.10  evilone  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.9    one month ago

It gives the US company 6 months to file a legal challenge. Remember Montana already tried to do this and failed. They used much the same language in their bill including listing China as "adversarial". 

The court concluded the ban would not likely survive even a medium
level of scrutiny (called intermediate scrutiny) with respect to the First Amendment
claim. The court based this conclusion in part on its view that Montana did not have a
compelling government interest in foreign affairs, an area where states do not have
constitutional authority. The court also said the preamble to the law was indicative of an
anti-Chinese purpose. Even if Montana did have a compelling interest, the court found
that the law is likely not “narrowly tailored,” in part because it would burden more
speech than necessary to meet its interests.
 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  evilone @4.1.10    one month ago

Congression legislation, especially overwhelming bi-partisan legislation, trumps a state ban.

Would Scotus override a near unison bi partisan bill on national security concerns?

Much of Congress' concerns are national security unlike Montanna.

Interesting case indeed,

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.1.12  evilone  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.11    one month ago
Congression legislation, especially overwhelming bi-partisan legislation, trumps a state ban.

It doesn't trump the Constitution. 

Much of Congress' concerns are national security unlike Montanna.

I'm expecting them to make the case in court that their national security concerns are more important that the platform's users 1st Amendment rights. Congress probably could have bypassed all this with a law to protect all user information across all applications and not poke only at "foreign owned" entities.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.13  Split Personality  replied to  evilone @4.1.12    one month ago
Congress probably could have bypassed all this with a law to protect all user information across all applications and not poke only at "foreign owned" entities.

That sounds like the Senate version of this proposed legislation which will have to match whatever the House comes up with in order for Biden to sign it.

Still a lot of moving parts in motion.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
4.2  Ozzwald  replied to  George @4    one month ago
Show of hands, who thinks Donald trump can reverse a ban on tiktoc?

Show of hands, who thinks republican Congress can reverse a TikTok ban if their lord and master Trump tells them to?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2    one month ago
Show of hands, who thinks republican Congress can reverse a TikTok ban if their lord and master Trump tells them to?

Show of hands, how many Democrats know Biden is willing to sign such a bill?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.1    one month ago
Show of hands,

Asked and answered!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @4.2.2    one month ago

I see no where in any post here where a single liberal even acknowledged that Biden is on record saying he will sign the bill, thus signaling his support for same.

But hey, if cartoons prove they have...........

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.2    one month ago
Show of hands,
Asked and answered!

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Krishna
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4.2.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.3    one month ago
I see no where in any post here where a single liberal even acknowledged that Biden is on record saying he will sign the bill,

Read the title again-- more slowly and carefully:

Trump's TikTok Ban Reversal Comes After Meeting Megadonor Who Has Stake In TikTok

Notice the word's "Trump's TikTok Ban Reversal.

il s'agit du renversement de Trump, pas de Biden!

(Hoc est de eversione Trump, non Biden!)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @4.2.5    one month ago
Notice the word's "Trump's TikTok Ban Reversal

Notice MY post and then try to disprove it.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.2.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.6    one month ago
Notice MY post and then try to disprove it.

I already did.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @4.2.7    one month ago
I already did

Wow, must be a glitch in the system, can't find a single post indicating that ANY Liberals even knew Biden said he would sign the current bill!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.9  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.8    one month ago

I saw it on Fox so it must be true.

Biden says he would sign the bipartisan bill banning China-based app TikTok (msn.com)

plus CBS

Biden says he would sign TikTok bill that could ban app (msn.com)

and the usual trouble makers

Ahead of elections, candidates debate whether to ban TikTok or use it (cnbc.com)

One thing seems certain, if Biden is for it, Trump will be against it, in spite of his failed 2020 Executive order trying to ban Tik Tok.

Biden says he would sign TikTok crackdown; Trump raises concerns (msn.com)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.9    one month ago
I saw it on Fox so it must be true.

Great! 

So now we have conclusively proved exactly what I clearly and succinctly stated--that Biden has stated he'd sign the bill banning Tik Tok.

I never doubted what I read on multiple sites for a second!

Congrats on being the very first to acknowledge it!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.2.11  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.10    one month ago
So now we have conclusively proved exactly what I clearly and succinctly stated--that Biden has stated he'd sign the bill banning Tik Tok.

This was never in question or the topic of the article in spite of your attempt to derail it.

I never doubted what I read on multiple sites for a second!

Congrats on admitting you were just trolling.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.11    one month ago

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bugsy
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4.2.13  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.12    one month ago

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Texan1211
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4.2.14  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.11    one month ago
Congrats on admitting you were just trolling.

Congrats on imagining what isn't there.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Krishna @4.2.7    one month ago

Already disproven!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.2.11    one month ago

All some have!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.2.4    one month ago

That is so irrelevant, what was your purpose in posting it?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  George @4    one month ago
Show of hands, who thinks Donald trump can reverse a ban on tiktoc?

Actually the wording of the title of the original source's article wasn't very clear:

Trump's TikTok Ban Reversal Comes After Meeting Megadonor Who Has Stake In TikTok

It would seem to imply that the "Reversal" it was talking abut was Trump reversing the ban. But its not discussing whether a hypothetical ban (if any) could be reversed-- rather its about Trump's opinion being reversed!

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.3    one month ago

not discussing whether a hypothetical ban (if any) could be reversed-- rather its about Trump's opinion being reversed!

In other words, the article is about Trump changing his position on the subject-- not about changing an actual ban.

 
 
 
George
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4.3.2  George  replied to  Krishna @4.3.1    one month ago

And are people not allowed to change positions, Like Kerry i was for the war before i was against it? I know pro-choice people who are now adamantly pro life, and die hard republicans that trump has made democrats for life. opinions evolve. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  George @4.3.2    one month ago
And are people not allowed to change positions, Like Kerry i was for the war before i was against it?

1. Kerry is not the topic (but then again, you probably already knew that, eh?  jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png )

2. Its not the fact that he changed positions. It is the fact that:

Trump's TikTok Ban Reversal Comes After Meeting Megadonor Who Has Stake In TikTok" 

Capice?

 
 
 
George
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4.3.4  George  replied to  Krishna @4.3.3    one month ago

I understood perfectly what you are trying to imply, i'm simply pointing out that all politicians positions are adjustable based on circumstance. Biden went from Blacks are super predators in the mid 90's to you aren't black if you don't vote for me today. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  George @4.3.4    one month ago
I understood perfectly what you are trying to imply, i'm simply pointing out that all politicians positions are adjustable based on circumstance.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But some consistently stick their principles more than others.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
4.3.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.3.5    one month ago
I'm not disagreeing with you. But some consistently stick their principles more than others.

One obvious example: Liz Cheney.

By sticking to her principles, she gave up any hope for continuing her career in politics . . . 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.3.7  JBB  replied to  Krishna @4.3.6    one month ago

Or, Cheney may emerge like a phoenix from the ashes as a right of center mainline conservative post Trump and MAGA Madness!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    one month ago

That Took What? About A Gazillion Rubles?

At least now Trump can pay his judgement!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
5.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago
That Took What? About A Gazillion Rubles? At least now Trump can pay his judgement!

Maybe. Maybe not. IDK.

???

It seems almost every time I look at the news there another charge against him, which when proven would require him to pay yet another amount .. . . it seems the total seems to keep increasing.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.1  JBB  replied to  Krishna @5.1    one month ago

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Krishna
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5.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    one month ago

Hehehe! jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

I think it's about time I entered into the long fray here:

"Show of hands, who thinks Donald trump can reverse a ban on tiktoc?"

How about if Trump and the Republicans become empowered in the election?

Maybe Trump is using his reversal about TikTok for this reason - a comment I posted on the previous article about who would buy TikTok?  170 million American users - it's not just kids who are the users.  That could mean a LOT of votes.

"I was kind of wondering what might happen if ByteDance simply refused to sell, and the government imposed the ban.  170 million users are going to be damned angry at the government and I'd venture that most of them are or could be voters.  Trump has just reversed his attitude towards TikTok, which he previously thought should be banned but now he's changed his mind.  Why?  Don't you think he'd LOVE to get a lot of those votes by making a promise that he would lift that ban?"

 
 

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