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NY Hochul sends 750 National Guard troops to NYC subways following spate of violence

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  krishna  •  one month ago  •  96 comments

By:   By EVAN SIMKO-BEDNARSKI

NY Hochul sends 750 National Guard troops to NYC subways following spate of violence
The governor’s plan to put National Guard soldiers in the subway system was met with alarm from civil libertarians.

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Get ready to open your backpack or bag to National Guard troops or state law enforcement when you ride New York City’s subway.

Gov. Hochul is deploying 750 members of the Guard and 250 state and MTA police officers to subway stations to inspect passengers’ bags following a spate of violent incidents across the system.

“No one heading to their job or to visit family or to go to a doctor’s appointment should worry that the person sitting next to them possesses a deadly weapon,” Hochul said Wednesday beside MTA Chairman Janno Lieber in front of a giant system map at the MTA’s Rail Control Center.

“They shouldn’t worry about whether someone’s going to brandish a knife or a gun.”

“I am sending a message to all New Yorkers — I will not stop working to keep you safe and restore your peace of mind whenever you walk through those turnstiles,” she said.

Another of Hochul’s five initiatives is her support for the MTA’s plan to install surveillance cameras inside conductor and train-operator cabs. That initiative is a direct response to the slashing of MTA conductor Alton Scott, who narrowly survived a random assault last week when he stuck his head out of his cab as his train stopped at a Brooklyn subway station.

NYPD brass and MTA leaders blame the uptick in crime on repeat offenders.


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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

Gov. Hochul is deploying 750 members of the Guard and 250 state and MTA police officers to subway stations to inspect passengers’ bags following a spate of violent incidents across the system.

“I am sending a message to all New Yorkers — I will not stop working to keep you safe and restore your peace of mind whenever you walk through those turnstiles,” she said.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @1    one month ago

I thought there was no crime in NYC?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

Who said there was NO crime in NYC?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

I heard that scumbag Mike Johnson wants to defund police.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    one month ago

Not necessarily in NYC 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago

You did?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    one month ago

probably need to get better sources then.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    one month ago

Just a wild guess, but probably no victims said it.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.7  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago
I thought there was no crime in NYC?

Well in that case I recommend you start following current events. (In whatever media you prefer-- TV news, Internet, etc).

There's an old saying:

An informed citizen is the basis of a democracy. 

So here's your chance to contribute-- get informed ASAP!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one month ago
I thought there was no crime in NYC?

You have been here long enough to know that even the most OBVIOUS of sarcasm must be declared or some will take it seriously. I know, it's kind of crazy but here we are.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.8    one month ago
or some will take it seriously. I know,

They get it. They simply try to put a pin in the balloon.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1    one month ago

I recall reading many years ago that the NYC subways, that had been relatively unsafe, were finally cleaned up and were okay.  But now, the terror has returned, same as most of the rest of America.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    one month ago
I recall reading many years ago that the NYC subways, that had been relatively unsafe, were finally cleaned up and were okay.  But now, the terror has returned, same as most of the rest of America. 

All true. At one tine there was a period where they were relatively unsafe. But then the police cleaned them up and they were very safe. 

But in recent time crime is America generally is on the rise.(Both in "the real world"-- as well as cybercrime)

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

NYPD brass and MTA leaders blame the uptick in crime on repeat offenders.

“One percent of subway arrestees, according to the NYPD, are responsible for well over 20% of the crime,” MTA boss Lieber said. “We need to have a collaboration with the [district attorneys] so they have that full information.”

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @2    one month ago

That probably tends to happen when you're soft on crime 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    one month ago

That would seem to be a problem with legislators, the mayor, prosecutors and judges. I don’t see how calling in the National Guard fixes that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    one month ago

the legislature has passed laws regarding crimes. it is up to police to enforce them and prosecutors to charge criminals.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    one month ago

So, the mayor wants laws enforced and police are refusing?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.3    one month ago

Ask the mayor.

Ask the chief of police.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    one month ago

That would seem to be a problem with legislators, the mayor, prosecutors and judges.

Yes. Specifically the counter-productive policy of so-called "bail reform". Its causing one of the cause that keeps making crime worse.jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.4    one month ago

I’m asking you. You’re the one who indicated that police and prosecutors were the problem. Do you have specific information to support that idea? Or did you just make it up?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  Krishna @2.1.5    one month ago

Is there data supporting the idea that bail reform has caused an increase in certain crimes?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.6    one month ago
You’re the one who indicated that police and prosecutors were the problem.

I did not. Are you making it up?

I gave you what I consider the jobs of police and prosecutors are.

And if you can not see what prosecutors, especially those endorsed by Soros have wrought, that's all on you.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    one month ago

This is what you said.

the legislature has passed laws regarding crimes. it is up to police to enforce them and prosecutors to charge criminals.

So you say the legislature has done their jobs. Then you say it’s up to police and prosecutors to enforce the laws - as if they weren’t.

Then you claim you aren’t saying police and prosecutors are the problem. 

Then you say prosecutors have “wrought” something, but apparently, it’s a secret mystery because you can’t say what it is.

So, do you actually have anything to say or are you just parroting some talking points you heard on the radio?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.9    one month ago

I have been quite clear.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    one month ago
I have been quite clear.

No, you haven’t. I will ask you again to clarify and support your statements.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.11    one month ago

Asked and answered.

Moving on now.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.13  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.7    one month ago
Is there data supporting the idea that bail reform has caused an increase in certain crimes?

Yes.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.14  Tacos!  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.12    one month ago

No, you still have answered, but I'm unsurprised that you would claim otherwise.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.15  Tacos!  replied to  Krishna @2.1.13    one month ago

I would honestly be interested in seeing that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.14    one month ago
No, you still have answered

yes, that is true.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.17  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    one month ago

You usually very much are.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  seeder  Krishna    one month ago

NYPD brass has said grand larcenies — property theft and pickpocketing — are the main thing pushing crime rates up in the subway system. Those crimes are up 17.8%, from 163 reported incidents last year to 192 this year.

There have been three homicides on the transit system so far this year, up from one this time last year.

The most recent was two weeks ago, when a man was fatally shot two weeks ago while on board a southbound B train in the Bronx.

 
 
 
George
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4  George    one month ago

Thank you, you piece of shit Dick Durban for blocking Sarah’s law that would have forced ICE to detain illegals charged with violent crimes. 

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1  fineline  replied to  George @4    one month ago

  What makes you think they were "illegals charged with violent crimes"? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  fineline @4.1    one month ago

“EL PASO, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol Agents in the West Texas and New Mexico region have apprehended more than 12 migrants this week with previous criminal convictions and/or criminal histories, attempting to enter the country illegally through the El Paso Sector area of responsibility.

Migrants with criminal convictions encountered by El Paso Sector agents include aggravated felons such as sex offenders, child predators and drug traffickers.  Additional offenses include illegal possession of firearms, assault, domestic violence, and burglary. Some of the migrants encountered have gang or Mexican Drug Cartel affiliations.”

 
 
 
George
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4.1.2  George  replied to  fineline @4.1    one month ago

Ignorant question, read Sarah’s law and ask dumbass dick why he blocked it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.1    one month ago

makes me wonder how many felons have snuck in

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    one month ago

There is no reliable data on that.

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.5  fineline  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.1    one month ago

Does not implicate illegal aliens . 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  George @4.1.2    one month ago

It makes no sense why anyone would block this bill unless one factors in the America last agenda so many dems seem to have. 

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.7  fineline  replied to  George @4.1.2    one month ago

Ignorant reply, show they were illegal aliens .

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.8  fineline  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.4    one month ago

There is no data on that .

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.9  fineline  replied to  Gazoo @4.1.6    one month ago

You make no sense .

 
 
 
George
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4.1.10  George  replied to  fineline @4.1.7    one month ago

Sigh…….Sarah’s law is a Bill in the senate that would force ICE to detain illegal immigrants who commit violent crimes. It’s a fucking Bill that Dumbass Dick Durban is blocking. Exactly what is there to prove? 

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.11  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    one month ago

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fineline
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4.1.12  fineline  replied to  George @4.1.10    one month ago

AGAIN, There is NO proof these crimes were committed by illegal aliens !

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.1.13  Gazoo  replied to  fineline @4.1.12    one month ago

What crimes are you talking about?

 
 
 
George
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4.1.14  George  replied to  Gazoo @4.1.13    one month ago

It’s stunning.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  George @4.1.14    one month ago

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fineline
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4.1.16  fineline  replied to  George @4.1.10    one month ago

Still waiting for your proof .

 
 
 
George
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4.1.17  George  replied to  fineline @4.1.16    one month ago

Do you know what a Bill is?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.4    one month ago

I know, but it is simply impossible to believe that no felons have snuck across. That defies all logic known to man.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.1.19  Gazoo  replied to  George @4.1.14    one month ago

Yeah, this is really bizzarre.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.20  George  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.18    one month ago

Or once they are here none of them commit violent felonies.

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.21  fineline  replied to  George @4.1.17    one month ago

Do YOU KNOW WHAT PROOF IS ?

 
 
 
George
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4.1.22  George  replied to  fineline @4.1.21    one month ago

Absolutely, do you know what a Bill is?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  George @4.1.22    one month ago

Why on earth would any rational being be opposed to incarcerating felons whether they are here legally OR illegally?

Why are some so dead set on allowing illegal aliens to commit crimes?

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.24  fineline  replied to  George @4.1.22    one month ago

Where in the article did it say illegal aliens committed crimes on the subways ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.24    one month ago

Where did he make any such claim?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.24    one month ago

Are you opposed to anyone committing crimes to be arrested?

Or just illegal aliens?

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.27  charger 383  replied to  fineline @4.1.12    one month ago

If they were not here, this would not be in question.  

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.28  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.25    one month ago

4 George 

 
 
 
George
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4.1.29  George  replied to  fineline @4.1.28    one month ago

Can you point out exactly where I claimed illegals were committing crimes on Subways?

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.30  fineline  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.27    one month ago

Show where illegal aliens committed crimes on the subways .

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.28    one month ago

Strange, when I read post 4. I see absolutely NOTHING about illegal aliens committing crimes on subways.

I think you have confused what he wrote with what you think he wrote 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.30    one month ago

Jeez, NO ONE HERE IS TALKING ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS COMMITTING CRIMES ON THE SUBWAY EXCEPT YOU.

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.33  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.32    one month ago

Then why the inference that it's on Durbin because he blocked Sarah's law ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.33    one month ago

This has been explained previously. Durbin blocked the bill.

Hence, it makes sense to blame him for blocking the bill!

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.35  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.34    one month ago

Durbins blocking the bill has nothing to do with subway violence which you infer was perpetrated by criminal illegal aliens .

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.36  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.35    one month ago
Durbins blocking the bill has nothing to do with subway violence which you infer was perpetrated by criminal illegal aliens .

Ridiculous. I never inferred anything at all, perhaps you should READ the comments and then quote where I "inferred" that!

You seem to have skipped over a bunch of posts and seemingly have imagined people are saying things they are not.

 
 
 
fineline
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4.1.37  fineline  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.27    one month ago

Crime has been happening on subways since their creation, are you saying this current situation is  because of illegal immigrants, or because Durbin blocked Sarah's law, or because it's easy to blame immigrants for societies problems . Sounds Fascist to me . 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.38  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @4.1.37    one month ago
Sounds Fascist to me . 

I see.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.39  charger 383  replied to  fineline @4.1.37    one month ago

I'm saying if illegal immigrants were not here they would not be a problem (or be blamed for problems).

There is no reason for them to be here at all 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.40  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  fineline @4.1.37    one month ago

Exactly, what’s a nice Dem governor sending army troops to police NYC subways anyway?  Sounds fascist to me.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.41  Sean Treacy  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.40    one month ago
  Sounds fascist to me.

Imagine if DeSantis had the Florida Guard searching the possessions of anyone who wanted to use public transportation.  The internet not be able to handle all the Nazi claims. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.42  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Gazoo @4.1.13    one month ago
What crimes are you talking about?

Probably the ones that were allegedly committed by IIlegal Aliens ...?. . . ?

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.43  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.1.42    one month ago
Probably the ones that were allegedly committed by IIlegal Aliens ...?.

256

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    one month ago

This surprises me just because New York has long had more police per capita than just about any other city in the country. DC probably has more, but I think that’s about it. You wouldn’t think that of all places, NYC would be the one that needs more cops.

 
 
 
George
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5.1  George  replied to  Tacos! @5    one month ago

New York is actually number 6. Behind Washington, Baltimore, Chicago 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Tacos! @5    one month ago
You wouldn’t think that of all places, NYC would be the one that needs more cops.

Up until recently that was mostly true.

However there is a policy called bail "reform" which really makes things much worse/

That. and the presence of lax gun laws (too many people acan buy guns-- or manufacture them-- people who shouldn't be abnle to.

 
 
 
George
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6  George    one month ago

Anybody who puts illegals over American citizens like dick Durban and joe Biden is a traitorous piece of shit.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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6.1  Gazoo  replied to  George @6    one month ago

I agree 110%!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.2  Texan1211  replied to  George @6    one month ago

Exactly!

 
 
 
fineline
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6.3  fineline  replied to  George @6    one month ago

Anyone that foments an insurrection , like Trump, is a traitorous piece of shit .

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.3.1  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @6.3    one month ago

Does that change the fact that those who put illegal aliens ahead of US citizens are traitorous?

 
 
 
fineline
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6.3.2  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @6.3.1    one month ago

Causes me to wonder about your definition of traitor .

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @6.3.2    one month ago

Well, that is a deflection.

Causes me to wonder about your definition of traitor

Wonder no longer, here is the definition of traitor:

traitor
ˈtrā-tər
NOUN
  1. one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
  2. one who commits treason

Always willing to help out!

 
 
 
fineline
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6.3.4  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @6.3.3    one month ago

Defines Trump to a "T" . Thanks for agreeing !

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.3.5  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @6.3.4    one month ago

And it perfectly describes Joe Biden.

Probably the biggest difference between us is I won't vote for Trump or Biden, and I suspect you will vote for Biden, probably because "he isn't as bad as Trump".

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.3.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  fineline @6.3    one month ago
Anyone that foments an insurrection , like Trump, is a traitorous piece of shit .

I'm curious as to why you (apparently?) think that comment is not off topic?  jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  fineline @6.3    one month ago
Anyone that foments an insurrection , like Trump, is a traitorous piece of shit .

Ah, yes.  The go to "but Trruuummmmppppp" whining when one realizes they have nothing of substance to add.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  fineline @6.3.4    one month ago

The problem is your opinion hasn't been proven.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago

And here we've been told that the crime in NYC is going down.

If crime is going down then why the need for NG in the city?

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    one month ago
If crime is going down then why the need for NG in the city?

Possibly because while it might be going down, it is still too high?

(I really don't know jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Krishna @7.1    one month ago

The governor said, “When you have that high level of anxiety, now you’re dealing with the psychological toll that deters people from wanting to go on the subway.”

High anxiety in New Yorkers, who knew?

 
 

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