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Map of Antarctica without the ice

  

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Via:  outis  •  3 weeks ago  •  21 comments

By:   Reddit https://reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1ajvrt2/map_of_antarctica_without_the_ice/

Map of Antarctica without the ice

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We all know what Antarctica looks like...  ...  right?


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Outis
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1  seeder  Outis    3 weeks ago

And Florida...........

 
 
 
evilone
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2  evilone    3 weeks ago

What will the US coastlines look like when Antarctica has no ice? 

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1  bccrane  replied to  evilone @2    3 weeks ago

Antarctica will never have no ice, unless we lose the moon and the earth's south pole slowly tidal locks to the sun but that won't be happening soon as it did for Venus.

Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" has an actual inconvenient truth the coast lines will be inundated but not because of human activity but that is what will happen before the next ice age.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.1  cjcold  replied to  bccrane @2.1    3 weeks ago

All actual climate scientists say that you and all other fossil fuel industry influenced right wing science deniers are dead wrong.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  bccrane @2.1    3 weeks ago

Why not? It didn’t used to have ice. For most of Earth’s past, the poles had no ice at all. 

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.3  bccrane  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

And Antarctica wasn't always located at the south pole.  Since earth is locked into the current approximately 100,000 year water cycle it will continue until Antarctica moves away from the south pole.

They can only core drill to 800,000 years ago and they run out of ice, so they can't be sure as to how many thousands of years has already melted and flowed out from under the ice sheets.

 
 
 
Outis
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2.1.4  seeder  Outis  replied to  bccrane @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Scotland used to be neighbor to Tennessee.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.5  evilone  replied to  bccrane @2.1    3 weeks ago
Antarctica will never have no ice

and there is no coastal erosion in FL.  /s

 
 
 
goose is back
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2.1.6  goose is back  replied to  cjcold @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
All actual climate scientists

What is a "actual" climate scientist vs a climate scientist or is it just the one's you agree with? 

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.7  bccrane  replied to  evilone @2.1.5    3 weeks ago

Before the next ice age Florida will be mostly underwater as what has happened before every single ice age, climate scientists keep forgetting that little fact and blame sea level rise on human activity when it isn't us doing it and we can't stop it.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.8  evilone  replied to  bccrane @2.1.7    3 weeks ago
climate scientists keep forgetting that little fact

None of the climate science paper's I've read forget that fact at all. 

...and blame sea level rise on human activity when it isn't us doing it and we can't stop it.

You should read more. Climate science doesn't blame rising sea levels on human activity - it's claim is human activity is accelerating rising sea levels. There's a profound difference. 

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.9  bccrane  replied to  evilone @2.1.8    3 weeks ago
it's claim is human activity is accelerating rising sea levels.

Is it that or is it that ever since the last ice age the sea levels have been rising and as it rises it brings with it more warm waters into the cooler latitudes, at some point that warm water will accelerate the melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets and it will have a cascading effect, so is it us or just the natural water cycle of earth accelerating the sea level rise?  There is an assumption being made here that sea level rise happens at a fixed rate naturally.

 
 
 
Outis
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2.1.10  seeder  Outis  replied to  bccrane @2.1.7    3 weeks ago

Whether anthropomorphic or not, rising water drowns people.

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.11  bccrane  replied to  bccrane @2.1.9    3 weeks ago

And to talk about an assumption, Milankovitch Cycles, when it was first found that the earth went through ice ages the scientific community along with Milankovitch assumed that the ice ages occurred because the climate was colder which was to them correct because to make ice it has to be colder, so he went about through distance, tilt, and timing compared to the sun he came up with a theory to cause a colder northern hemisphere but the same circumstances produce a warmer southern hemisphere, here's the kicker, at the same time the northern hemisphere was experiencing and ice age so was the southern hemisphere just not as pronounced, well that can't be, the only similarity between both hemispheres is the sea level was just as high in both, Milankovitch was wrong.  Anyone using the Milankovitch Cycles as settle science are making the same assumptions about the climate and therefore are also wrong.

Milankovitch didn't factor in sea level rise. 

As I have noted above, they have core drilled the Antarctic back to ice that formed 800,000 years ago in an ice sheet that is about 2-1/2 miles deep.  In that 800,000 years the earth went through at least 7 ice ages that built ice sheets a mile or more thick plus what was needed to maintain the thickness through summer melts.  That is an entirely different formation process than the Antarctic 6" accumulations per year, it is more like double-digit feet accumulations per year, the only way that is possible is that the sea level is the driver of the ice ages with increased precipitation from warmer waters in the cooler latitudes.

 
 
 
bccrane
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2.1.12  bccrane  replied to  Outis @2.1.10    3 weeks ago
Whether anthropomorphic or not

Ah, but there is a "profound difference" (using another's phrase) between believing it is a human caused event or a natural event.  

rising water drowns people.

Not if they get out of the way.

 
 
 
Outis
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2.1.13  seeder  Outis  replied to  bccrane @2.1.12    3 weeks ago

Some Pacific nations are only a few feet above sea level. Where do those people go?

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.14  Kavika   replied to  Outis @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

The Pacific nations are in real danger, and it continues to grow.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @2.1.14    3 weeks ago

Yes between China and climate change the Indo-Pacific has a very challenging future.

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
2.1.16  bccrane  replied to  Outis @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

To higher ground, they have no choice, the sea levels will rise about another 8 meters before the next ice age starts receding the sea levels as the water starts precipitating out over the colder latitudes and gets locked up in ice which will build up faster than the summers can melt.

If one is to believe the warming is caused by human activity rather than a natural event, then humans will make boneheaded moves like geo-engineering the atmosphere to try and cool the climate costing trillions and not accomplishing squat and/or mandating peoples movements and life all in a effort to stop the unstoppable.

 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  evilone @2    3 weeks ago

A new opportunity to obtain coastal property?

 
 
 
Freefaller
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3  Freefaller    3 weeks ago

Neat I believe I'll purchase a spot on the central eastern coast as it looks like it will have good beaches and nearby fishing lakes

 
 

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