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Biden sanctions

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  4 weeks ago  •  169 comments

Biden sanctions
The Israeli leader quickly denounced the sanctions. “The vast majority of settlers,” he said in a statement, ”are law-abiding citizens, many of them these days are fighting as conscripts and reservists for the defense of Israel.” He said his country “takes action against law-breakers in every place, and therefore there is no place for exceptional steps on this measure.”

Link to quote: West Bank: Biden sanctions Israeli settlers accused of attacking Palestinians | AP News


That is a confusing title for many. As we all should know, Biden immediately eased the tough sanctions that President Trump had placed on Iran. He waived sanctions on the Iranian oil trade, which allowed Iran access to frozen funds in foreign banks that it used to fund terrorism. That is what led to the Oct 7th attack. Joe wanted to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal, but Iran just keeps waving its finger at Joe.

Now Joe is imposing sanctions, but it isn't against Iran or any of Iran's proxies. It is not against any of America's enemies. Nope. Joe has issued another of his devastating executive orders, this time imposing sanctions on Israeli settlers in the West Bank that have been accused of attacking Joe's beloved Palestinians.

Here is how the AP reports on it:

WASHINGTON (AP) —  President Joe Biden  on Thursday issued an  executive order  that targets  Israeli settlers in the West Bank who have been accused of attacking Palestinians  and Israeli peace activists in the occupied territory,  imposing financial sanctions and visa bans  in an initial round against  four individuals.

Those settlers were involved in acts of violence, as well as threats and attempts to destroy or seize Palestinian property, according to the order. The penalties aim to block the four from using the U.S. financial system and bar American citizens from dealing with them. U.S. officials said they were evaluating whether to punish others involved in attacks that have intensified during the  Israel-Hamas war .

Biden’s order is a rare step against America’s closest ally in the Mideast who, Biden says, has the right to defend itself. But the Democratic president has pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to show greater restraint in its military operations aimed at rooting out Hamas. Netanyahu denounced the U.S. penalties, which his government was notified in advance, U.S. officials said.

Biden is Giving Up Powerful U.S. Financial Sanctions on Iran | Opinion (newsweek.com)

It sounds like something Barrack Obama would do. It may be time to admit that Joe finally showed some spine. It was against an ally. Still no word on what he will do about the attack that left 3 American soldiers dead and another 40 wounded.  Joe was caught quite unprepared for that. He depended on the US military to defend all its soldiers 24/7. I guess nobody thought that an incoming terrorist drone would be coming at an American base at the same time a US drone was returning to the same base.




In other news:

Biden is publicly urging grocery chains to lower their food prices while accusing them of ripping off shoppers.

Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, promised a vote next week on a bill to secure the border and aid Ukraine. A text of it has yet to be released.

"N ew York Gov. Kathy Hochul said Thursday that the reported migrants who were  recorded on video  assaulting two police officers over the weekend in Times Square should be deported.

“Get them all and send them back,” she said in response to a question about the people who have been arrested in connection with the assaults. “You don’t touch our police officers. You don’t touch anybody.”

N.Y. Gov. Hochul says reported migrants who attacked NYPD officers in Times Square should be deported (msn.com)

She didn't explain why they were released from jail in the first place.


Marjorie Taylor Greene introduces a resolution to censor Ilhan Omar for treasonous statements.


Biden is nominating John Podesta to replace John Kerry. John Podesta is the brother of Tony Podesta, the democrat who committed the same FARA violations as Paul Manafort but was offered immunity instead of prosecution.



And as you already know by now: Punxsutawney Phil says: An early spring is on the way.

 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Good morning

Just finishing a bit of bacon and the New York Post

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We were warned about this weren't we?

Remember who told us?


 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1    4 weeks ago

Sadly, there is a bit of irony in that pic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Question of the day: Do you think terrorists are entering the country via Biden's open border?

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 weeks ago
Do you think terrorists are entering the country via Biden's open border?

There is no doubt about it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 weeks ago

They see the opportunity and they will take advantage. What a fucking terrible mess we have for an administration.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    4 weeks ago

Well, our great critical thinkers look us in the eye and say Joe is the lessor of two evils!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    4 weeks ago

I guess they have a different definition of evil..............twisted as it may be.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.2    4 weeks ago

When they hear of facts they don't like, they do this:

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Texan1211
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2.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.1    4 weeks ago
Well, our great critical thinkers look us in the eye and say Joe is the lessor of two evils!

Settling for the lesser of two evils has landed us with the last two Presidents.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.2    4 weeks ago

Please, tell us what is twisted about regarding Donald Trump as evil. 

Dont dance around, tell us clearly why it is twisted to describe Trump as evil. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.5    4 weeks ago

I just thought of it...I should have used your avatar in post 2.2.3

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.6    4 weeks ago

I'd ask you to tell us what it is twisted about regarding Trump as evil, but its too early in the day to go into a laughing fit. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

Are you going to ask every Republican that question?

That is the formula for ABC's "This Week."

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.5    4 weeks ago

Cuz he still walks the earth a free man hurting no one.............

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.9    4 weeks ago

is he a leader or a clown? 

putting a pathological liar in as leader of the country is evil

putting a crook in as leader of the country is evil

putting a traitor in as leader of the country is evil

holding your nose and voting for this person is evil

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    4 weeks ago

How about putting an extreme radical leftist in charge???

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.7    4 weeks ago

It's not twisted, it's truthful, reality, factual.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.11    4 weeks ago

Biden is not an extreme radical leftist.  That assertion is ludicrous. 

We live now in a world where everyone just says things and someone else will take it up and run with it.  a third of our population lives in a universe of alternate reality. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    4 weeks ago

Per your examples, that makes those who do the "putting" evil. Not the subject of the "putting". Whoops

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.12    4 weeks ago
factual.

Can you show us "the facts?"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.13    4 weeks ago
Biden is not an extreme radical leftist. 

THE BORDER HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.13    4 weeks ago

So true John.  I was watching something the other night and some republicant was saying something and it was all just made up lies and nonsense.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.15    4 weeks ago

Can you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.17    4 weeks ago

You watched something and somebody said something that was nonsense?

Could you be more specific?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.18    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.17    4 weeks ago
saying something and it was all just made up lies and nonsense.

Unable to remember enough of it to include here?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.17    4 weeks ago
it was all just made up lies and nonsense.

Like what for instance?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    4 weeks ago
putting a pathological liar in as leader of the country is evil

putting a crook in as leader of the country is evil

putting a traitor in as leader of the country is evil

And your comments indicate you support him 100%.  Oh, wait, we are supposed to ignore all the facts present showing this to be Traitor Joe.  

holding your nose and voting for this person is evil

I don't think Jim will be voting for Traitor Joe.  You on the other hand...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    4 weeks ago

And yet, you swear fealty to Biden.

Unbelievable.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.20    4 weeks ago

So, you have no facts relating to my comment, or at all.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.26  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.19    4 weeks ago

Pick a supporter of the former 'president' who is a gqp member, on any given day, and there is your answer,

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.27  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.24    4 weeks ago

I would vote for YOU to keep Trump out of office again. 

I am not a big Biden fan, he is too centrist for my taste. But he is 1000 times better than Trump. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.26    4 weeks ago
Pick a supporter of the former 'president' who is a gqp member,

Could take awhile as there is no such thing as gqp to be a member of.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.29  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.25    4 weeks ago

From the article/link you didn't bother to open/read...............

President Biden on Tuesday signed a trio of executive orders to reverse the immigration policies of former President Donald Trump, continuing his brisk shift of policies by the stroke of a pen.

Biden signed orders to end a 2018 “zero tolerance” policy on prosecuting illegal border crossings and to seek unification of parents with children detained at the border.

He also signed an order requesting a comprehensive review Trump-era immigration policies,

The new president has reversed a range of other Trump policies by executive order, including ending a visa ban on a group of predominately Muslim countries including Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen that Trump said was about national security. Biden said it was in fact a ban targeting Muslims.

All were good policy. Look at what rescinding them has wrought.........

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.30  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.29    4 weeks ago

I don't give a fuck about anything the former 'president' has done.  No such thing as good policy or good anything coming from that turd.  I don't read what you re-post from an 'article' that you posted in the first place,

Waste of time.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.31  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.30    4 weeks ago

Ummmm Vic posted it not I.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.27    4 weeks ago

Yes, I see you are justifying your vote for Biden with the standard "Trump's worse" shtick.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.33  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.30    4 weeks ago
I don't read what you re-post from an 'article' that you posted in the first place,

Then why did you ask for it?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.34  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.32    4 weeks ago
I see you are justifying your vote for Biden with the standard "Trump's worse" shtick.

Although I don't agree with the reasoning I do understand it and defend anyone's right to make the decision on who they vote for any way they choose.  Too bad not everyone is not willing to extend the same courtesy, especially without name calling or accusations. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.35  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.16    4 weeks ago

People have been crossing that border for the past 30 years. There has been NO time in those 30 years when the border was "closed". 

The United States has a stated policy that people can request "asylum" even if they enter out of order. If someone is dropped from the sky they have to be given an asylum hearing. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.36  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.35    4 weeks ago

When Biden and Democrats suggest changing the asylum laws, then it will be believable that they are finally serious.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.37  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.35    4 weeks ago
The United States has a stated policy that people can request "asylum" even if they enter out of order. If someone is dropped from the sky they have to be given an asylum hearing. 

Obviously that is being taken advantage of and should be looked at for amending.  In the meantime give them a number at the border with a way to get in touch with them and send them on their way outside the US border and they will get their hearing at our nearest convenience.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.38  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.36    4 weeks ago

Asylum law is based on and bound by international treaties.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.39  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.36    4 weeks ago

Over the past 120 years , the United States had done more damage to the Central American countries than it has done good. Pick up a history book.  Out of fear of "communism" we have repeatedly backed regimes down there that oppressed the people. Or killed them. Now all those countries are dysfunctional and people want to get out of there. . 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.40  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.39    4 weeks ago
Country Summary: Violent crime such as  extortion, murder, armed robbery, carjacking, narcotics trafficking and gang activity  are common in Guatemala. Local police may lack the resources to respond effectively to criminal incidents resulting in a low arrest and conviction rate.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.41  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.40    4 weeks ago
The   poverty rate in Guatemala   is high by most standards. Guatemala is a country in Central America that is bordered by El Salvador, Honduras, Belize and Mexico. It is known for its massive Lake Atitlán and ancient Mayan ruins. It is   home to 16.5 million , people making it the most populous country in Central America. Although Guatemala’s official language is Spanish, 40% of its inhabitants speak Indigenous languages.

The poverty rate in Guatemala is very high. According to the World Bank, 59.3% of the population lives below the poverty line. In addition, 23% live in extreme poverty.

The indigenous people in Guatemala are most affected by poverty. In fact, 79% of them live in poverty, while   40% of them  live in extreme poverty. Eight in ten indigenous children  suffer from chronic malnutrition , a condition that weakens their immune system and does not allow their bodies to fully develop.

Current Poverty Rate in Guatemala - The Borgen Project
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.42  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.41    4 weeks ago
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Web Jun 22, 2021  · Declassified   U.S . documents show that   the United States   provided military hardware and counterinsurgency training to Guatemalan military and police in this effort, leading to the indiscriminate use of force …

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.43  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.42    4 weeks ago
Guatemala is one of the most important victims of this American strategy in the region. Following its independence from Spanish occupation in the 1820s, it was often ruled by conservative elites.The rise of the labor movement in the interwar period ultimately helped to bring the first populist regime in 1944-51 period. Juan Aros Arevalo’s (1944-51) government tried to implement land reforms and social welfare policies. However, his successor Jacobo Arbenz was deposed in 1954 by the Americans. The immediate reason was the insistence of the Arbenz government to take back the lands from United Fruit Company, a US plantation company in which John Foster Dulles, secretary of state, and his brother Allen Dulles, head of the CIA, had high stakes. Since Arbenz, authoritarian regimes continued to rule the country with the active US support.

Maya-mam indigenous communities, local people, deprived of their land during the colonial occupation, started a revolt against the colonizers in the 1960s.  The movement posed a great danger to the status quo and American interests in the country. The authoritarian regimes with active US support waged a war against the popular movement which went on between 1960 and 1996 and left more than 200,000 people dead as per the UN sponsored Commission for Historical Clarification report published in 1999. According to the report, the state was responsible for most of the deaths. The Americans trained the Green Berets of the Guatemalan army who were responsible for the disappearance and displacement of millions of people. Indigenous Mayans were the main victims of the war which still continues in the form of economic deprivation and rule of the gangs.

The sordid history of US intervention in Guatemala : Peoples Dispatch
 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.44  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.31    4 weeks ago

same difference

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.45  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.39    4 weeks ago
Over the past 120 years , the United States had done more damage to the Central American countries than it has done good.

No doubt that is a significant factor but not the only one.  Others include:

  •  Authoritarian regimes
  • High tolerance for corruption
  • Oligarchies
  • Close relations with the USSR and now a pivot to China

Costa Rica is the big exception.  They achieved a stable democracy in 1949.  Panama is also improving since we took out their military dictatorship in 1990.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.46  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.2.38    4 weeks ago

No, it’s US law.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.47  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.44    4 weeks ago

Hardly

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.48  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.10    4 weeks ago

Thanks for describing Joe Biden perfectly.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.49  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.2.38    4 weeks ago

Source?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.50  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.49    4 weeks ago

How do you not know this? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.51  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.2.50    4 weeks ago

Then you are aware that only counts people coming in through an official port of entry and coming in any other way is not legal or covered under any law?

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.52  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.51    4 weeks ago

That is incorrect. Even if dropped from the air asylum seekers are guaranteed a hearing and must be legally processed...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.53  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.51    4 weeks ago

Why wouldn't an asylum seeker cross at a port of entry.  We have Form I-589 at Ports of Entry but not in the Arizona desert or across the Rio Grande.  Perhaps those avoiding ports of entry arew hoping to enter the country unobserved.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.55  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.2.52    4 weeks ago

Is there anything saying they have the right to stay in the US while awaiting asylum?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.56  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.55    4 weeks ago

Nope

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.57  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.35    4 weeks ago
People have been crossing that border for the past 30 years.

There is huge difference between trying to sneak in and being let in.


There has been NO time in those 30 years when the border was "closed". 

The border was closed prior to Biden being elected president. It would have been tightly closed with a wall.


The United States has a stated policy that people can request "asylum" even if they enter out of order. If someone is dropped from the sky they have to be given an asylum hearing. 

President Trump had a "Remain-in-Mexico Policy" that worked.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.58  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.53    4 weeks ago

You hit the nail right on the head!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.59  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.39    3 weeks ago

None of that is our problem, other than Joe Biden's shitty policies.

Read your own fucking history book, and learn that money doesn't grow on trees.

We give away tons of money and everyone wants more and Democrats are happy to give it to them.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.2.60  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.35    3 weeks ago
People have been crossing that border for the past 30 years.

Yes they have, but never in the volume that the last three years have seen.

More than 10 million immigrants  have reportedly entered the country illegally since Biden took office. It is the most recorded in that amount of time of any administration.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    4 weeks ago

Damn right they are!

 
 
 
charger 383
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3  charger 383    4 weeks ago

Terrorists, spies, criminals, crazies, those who other places did not want, sick, in short problems that do not improve our country.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 weeks ago

Just look at their impact on Democrat run sanctuary shitholes.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Omar said that she was "Somalian first, Muslim second" and "here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system." “While I am in Congress, no one will take Somalia's sea.”

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She is also a democrat.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 weeks ago
She is also a democrat.

And in true Democrat fashion, US Citizens are far down the list of priorities.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    4 weeks ago

They are going to replace US citizens. Remember what Kendi wrote about: demographics is destiny!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    4 weeks ago

Any chance at all that the Biden "Justice Dept." will make her register as a foreign agent now?

Just kidding, we know they wouldn't do that to one of their own.....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2    4 weeks ago
Any chance at all that the Biden "Justice Dept." will make her register as a foreign agent now?

If she has a (D) after her name, the Justice Department will advise her to register under FARA.  If her name was Paul Manafort, they would throw the book at her.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    4 weeks ago
If she has a (D) after her name, the Justice Department will advise her to register under FARA.  If her name was Paul Manafort, they would throw the book at her.

I don't know, they never made Hunter register and he admitted to being a foreign agent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.2    4 weeks ago

Don't forget, they are still sitting on the Hunter "investigation."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Just in:

Elon Musk Announces Plan For Shareholder Vote To Move Tesla Incorporation From California To Texas

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    4 weeks ago
Elon Musk Announces Plan For Shareholder Vote To Move Tesla Incorporation From California To Texas

Welcome, Tesla!!!

Makes perfect sense for the company.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    4 weeks ago

I got a home and a big warm bed
And a feather pillow for my head
Going back to Houston, Houston, Houston

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

Space X is big down here, my DIL works in Brownsville on the rockets they are building.

Space X also has a facility about 20 miles from Waco.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6  Ronin2    4 weeks ago

I finally agree with Brandon on something. Israeli settlers in the West Bank should be sanctioned. 

It isn't like the Israeli courts, IDF, or police are doing anything about their violence against Palestinians.

Ramallah, occupied West Bank – Israel’s State Prosecutor has closed the case of an Israeli settler who stabbed a Palestinian man to death in June in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

The prosecution informed the family on Thursday that the investigation into the unnamed settler was closed “on the basis that the attack was a case of self-defence”, the youth’s uncle told Al Jazeera.

Ali Hassan Harb, 27, was stabbed in the chest and   killed on June 21   by an Israeli settler while on the Harb family’s land in the town of Iskaka on the outskirts of Salfit city, near the illegal Jewish settlement of Ariel, according to rights groups and Harb’s family.

He had gone down to the land along with other family members after a group of settlers arrived to set up an outpost.

Naeem Harb, the main witness to the attack and the youth’s uncle, said the family intends to keep pushing for accountability despite the closure of the investigation.

“Even if the court decided to close the case, we will go to the Supreme Court, and then we will go to the International Criminal Court (ICC),” said Naeem. “We will keep going until the last sliver of hope, until the last breath, until this killer and this government are punished – we will not leave them alone.”

The State Prosecutor released a statement on Thursday saying, “after reviewing evidence in the case, including statements from those involved in the incident … the decision was made to close the case since the claim of self-defence could not be ruled out,” according to Israeli media.

Lack of accountability 

Soon after the killing, Naeem had said that the attack happened in the presence of the Israeli army.

He told Al Jazeera he was approximately a metre away from his nephew when he was stabbed.

“The settlers came to our land and the killing happened in front of the army’s eyes and under their protection,” said Naeem. “The settlers were not exposed to any danger. We went to the land and told them to leave, and they left, and then came back with the army and killed the martyr, Ali.”

“After the settler stabbed him, the soldiers prevented us from advancing to him or giving him any help. He was on the ground for 20 minutes, bleeding out,” added Naeem.

Documentation by rights group Yesh Din, which monitors settler attacks in the occupied West Bank, showed a similar sequence of events

"Settlers arrived at the scene and attempted to set up a tent. Friction ensued and settlers left the place. Immediately afterward, soldiers arrived at the scene, and later the settlers returned,” Yesh Din said in a statement.

After the settlers returned, violence again broke out, “during which a settler pulled out a knife and stabbed the young man to death”, the organisation said.

Settler violence and attacks are a daily reality for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, where at least 600,000 Israeli settlers live in approximately 250 illegal settlements, according to rights groups.

The vast majority of investigations into attacks are closed without any punishment for the settlers.

According to Yesh Din , since 2005, 92 percent of cases were closed at the end of an investigation without an indictment filed.
Only three percent of files have led to convictions in the same period.

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An Israeli organization says a study of Israel Police investigations into violence committed by Israelis against Palestinians in the West Bank shows that from 2005 to September 2023, some 94% of investigations it was able to review were closed without an indictment, and just three percent ended in a conviction.

In over 80% of the investigations reviewed, the cases were ultimately closed due to police’s failure to either identify the perpetrator or find the evidence needed to prosecute the culprits.

The study, carried out by the Yesh Din organization, which campaigns against Israeli rule in the West Bank, also found that Palestinian residents have a high level of mistrust for Israeli law enforcement services, with 58% of Palestinian victims of crime in 2023 choosing not to report those crimes to the police.

The study was based on 1,664 police investigation files opened due to incidents of suspected Israeli violence against Palestinians in the West Bank which were monitored by Yesh Din from 2005 to September 2023. This figure was not the total number of all such investigations opened by the police but merely the ones Yesh Din has tracked — all incidents in which Yesh Din received power of attorney from the alleged Palestinian victim to represent them to the police and prosecutors in legal proceedings, which gives the organization the ability to review the conduct of the investigation.

I am not pro Hamas, Hezbollah, PA, or Israeli radical (Zionist). I don't want any of them carrying their BS conflict over to our country. We have more than enough problems w/o dealing with that as well.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @6    4 weeks ago

You made a valid case.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    4 weeks ago
You made a valid case.

Then you will be amending your article of course. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    4 weeks ago

We just hold different views on Israeli policy.

I gave him credit for making a better argument than others on here.

Nothing will change my mind on the Palestinians.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    4 weeks ago

Vic, you and I normally agree on most things.

I appreciate you letting me state my opinions on the articles you post. I try to back up my opinions with facts.

Thank you for not calling me pro Hamas/Hezbollah or terrorist sympathizer as some have.

It is different for me because a family of one of my best friends from college has immediate relatives living in the West Bank. Their last known relative (that they know for sure is alive) just made it out of Gaza just over a month ago. She is a nurse and had a rich patient that managed to secure passage for himself and one of his caretakers to Egypt. She drew lots with the other nurses to see which one would accompany him. They tried to get her temporary US VISA so she can apply for citizenship- she speaks English; and Egypt will not allow her to remain in their country. So far all of their efforts have failed. Luckily the same patron patient managed to secure sanctuary in Qatar- and she is accompanying him there. This all affects them directly.

I do not condone any of the harassment of Jews or Palestinians that is currently going on in the US. Both sides need to remember that we are all Americans first. We can disagree without threats, violence, or intimidation. 

When I was in college I was part of a charity; thanks to my friend; that tried to send needed supplies to Palestinians. I am fully aware of the ever changing myriad of restrictions that Israel puts into place on what can be sent. If people really want to support the Palestinians they can join said charities which work not only to send goods; but send letters and petitions the Congress and the State Department on behalf of the Palestinians. This isn't going to get anyone their 15 seconds of fame on the internet or any type of recognition. It is frustrating as hell at times. But it will do far more good for the Palestinians than what they are trying now. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.3    3 weeks ago
. I try to back up my opinions with facts.

And you did a good job with that. I can't dispute those facts, but unfortunately, I simply don't think the Palestinians and the Israelis can live side by side.

You advocate sending needed supplies to the Palestinians and I'm all for that. They barely have a functioning economy in Gaza or the West Bank, even in times of peace. 


It is frustrating as hell at times.

Some might say impossible.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

another far right hate fest

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7    4 weeks ago

Comon John, it's going to be an early spring!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @7    4 weeks ago

Care to expound on why?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7    4 weeks ago
like the Israeli courts, IDF, or police are doing anything about their violence against Palestinians.

And another time you didn't (and can't) dispute a single thing in the article. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.4    4 weeks ago

I am not going to waste my fucking time "proving" anything to you. You are allergic to it. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7.4.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.4.1    4 weeks ago
I am not going to waste my fucking time "proving" anything to you.  

Why stop now?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.4.1    4 weeks ago

That's a longwinded way to say you can't.  But then again, we all already knew that.   And you did to.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.4.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.4.3    4 weeks ago

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Ronin2
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7.4.5  Ronin2  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.4    4 weeks ago

Jeremy, he didn't make the statement. I did. I backed that up in post 6 with links to articles. If you care I can link more showing the number of Palestinians killed in the West Bank in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024- it has risen every year.

The West Bank is not connected to Gaza in any way. They are fighting to save what is left of their land from Israeli settlements.

 
 
 
charger 383
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7.4.6  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @7.4.1    3 weeks ago

As the member addressed responded, the flag is dismissed by charger

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.4.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @7.4.5    3 weeks ago
If you care

Looking back at it now, I'm not completely sure how that quote ended up there.  I may have had it highlighted when I clicked "Reply".  

My apologies for the confusion.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
8  Greg Jones    4 weeks ago

Biden continuing to be an equal opportunity offender. Neither the Jews nor the Muslims don't have much use for him.

Joe Biden's Michigan Trip Got Consumed by Muslim Rage (townhall.com)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Did anyone know there was a whistleblower in Fat Fani's office?

The whistleblower informed Willis that one of her top aides may be misusing federal funds. The whistleblower was then fired. This comes as Willis is also facing subpoenas for not releasing documents to attorneys and her issues related to the romantic relationship she had with an investigator.

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan has issued a subpoena for Fulton County DA Fani Willis.

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Damn!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
10  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Meanwhile, back at the forgotten quagmire, infamous designs are afoot.

An insurrection against Brussels?  Naw, it couldn't happen.

Polish farmers plot new blockade of Ukrainian border 

When does an insurrection become a revolution?  Soviets would know.  Naw, it couldn't happen.

Hungarian farmers to protest against grain imports near border with Ukraine

A revival of the Soviet bloc with Ukraine in a position of influence?  Naw, it couldn't happen.

After Tusk's visit to Kyiv: let’s not base our relations on gratitude

And the Soviet bloc aren't the only ones reminiscing about former glories.  Ripe for the picking?  Naw, it couldn't happen.

End of the "Greater Europe" project: Why Azerbaijan's exit from PACE reflects global changes

Joe Biden has expanded NATO and established a desire in Eastern Europe to reconsider a Soviet past without Russia in charge.  Those caught in the middle of Biden's neoliberal quagmire are drifting toward rejecting all sides.  Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, and Moldova have been primed to reject both the west and east while forming their own bloc.  Naw, it couldn't happen.

Way to go, Brandon!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11  author  Vic Eldred    4 weeks ago

Donnie, Vic wants the job of firing DOJ & FBI officials in your next administration.

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Melania, Vic will be firing every one of them.  Ah, what the hell, maybe that's what is needed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    4 weeks ago

How long do you think she'll stay with him since he'll be broke soon?  This alleged billionaire?

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
11.1.1  fineline  replied to  Tessylo @11.1    4 weeks ago

Not long, the warranty on the Melania purchase is due to expire.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @11.1.1    4 weeks ago

What did she ever do to you to earn such disrespect?

 
 
 
George
Sophomore Guide
11.1.3  George  replied to  Tessylo @11.1    4 weeks ago
This alleged billionaire?

Somebody should tell Forbes.

PROFILE

Donald Trump

$2.6B

Real Time Net Worth

as of 2/2/24
#1222 in the world today
 
 
 
fineline
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11.1.4  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.2    4 weeks ago

Disrespected my country, our values and America's response to it's citizens in time of need. Remember what she scrawled on the back of her raincoat when she and the OFP went to Puerto Rico, after the hurricane devastation, and assisted in the paper-towel throw? Remember how her parents immigrated to the good ole USA, even though the OFP was totally against "chain migration"? She is, without a doubt, the most shameful First Lady this country has ever had!   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @11.1    4 weeks ago

I just want to fire deep state democrats.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @11.1.3    4 weeks ago

They want to confiscate his money and his business and throw him in jail.

You know, the people trying to save "democracy,"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  fineline @11.1.4    4 weeks ago

How dare she!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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11.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @11.1.4    3 weeks ago
Disrespected my country, our values and America's response to it's citizens in time of need

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CB
Professor Principal
12  CB    4 weeks ago
Now Joe is imposing sanctions, but it isn't against Iran or any of Iran's proxies. It is not against any of America's enemies. Nope. Joe has issued another of his devastating executive orders, this time imposing sanctions on Israeli settlers in the West Bank that have been accused of attacking Joe's beloved Palestinians.

Wow. Just "dripping" with sarcasm ('beloved Palestians') and a non-sequitar statement. Israel is its own independent country; the United States president is his own independent leader. There is context to go into and around those Israeli settlers in the West Bank (as you certainly know if you have kept up) and it involves violence and blocking actions taken there.by some settlers. 

Be consistent. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @12    4 weeks ago

Be consistent.

Wise advice for Biden, but extremely doubtful it would register.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @12    4 weeks ago
Be consistent. 

I am.  I treat the Palestinians as they have treated the Israelis and I treat Joe Biden the way he has treated Americans.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
12.2.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.2    3 weeks ago

You are not being consistent you are being partisan. Call it what it is.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @12.2.1    3 weeks ago
Call it what it is.

he did, accept it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
12.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @12.2.1    3 weeks ago

Like my friend from Chicago, you just don't get it.

Ronin posted indisputable facts. I accepted those facts. He and I disagree on what should be done.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
12.2.4  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.2.3    3 weeks ago

Don't drag others into being responsible for your opinion piece. Ronin has nothing to do with comment 6 and the thread itself! Stop using 'filler' on your article. If you are going to be partisan. . .own it bravely, if you going to be balanced then accept that 'everybody' is asking (demanding) Israel to stop interfering, fighting, and blocking Palestinians from their West Bank dwellings.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
12.2.5  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @12.2    3 weeks ago
I treat Joe Biden the way he has treated Americans.

He's treated me pretty well, no complaints too bad that your out in cold.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
13  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

I really do find it hard to comment with relevant responses when I'm unable to open any of the images posted as comments at the beginning of the comment wall, but I will at least make one general comment now that I have finished eating my healthy oatmeal breakfast with banana slices, gojo berries, cinnamon and 6 small bird eggs, along with my orange juice and mug of coffee.  

Has ANYONE suggested that the universal demands that Israel allow Hamas time to regroup, rearm and be prepared to kill more Jews could more effectively stop the bloodshed and release all the hostages immediately if instead they were demands that Hamas surrender, since their defeat is inevitable?  How about that paragon of original apartheid, South Africa, leading the pack in that?  LOL

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    4 weeks ago
but I will at least make one general comment now that I have finished eating my healthy oatmeal breakfast with banana slices, gojo berries, cinnamon and 6 small bird eggs, along with my orange juice and mug of coffee.  

That is a very healthy breakfast. My youngest does the Oatmeal with the cinnamon. I guess the cinnamon makes it palatable. I give credit to anyone who is satisfied with it.


Has ANYONE suggested that the universal demands that Israel allow Hamas time to regroup, rearm and be prepared to kill more Jews could more effectively stop the bloodshed and release all the hostages immediately if instead they were demands that Hamas surrender, since their defeat is inevitable? 

That would be a good idea. Maybe we are almost there. I understand that one of the main sticking points in the current deal that Qatar is brokering is that PM Netanyahu demands that all the hostages be turned over for Israel doing all that. Hamas keeps wanting to hold onto some, evidently for more "pauses."


How about that paragon of original apartheid, South Africa, leading the pack in that?  LOL

I think the one thing the current government of SA has proven is that all people can commit the same sins.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
13.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1    4 weeks ago

To be smart about how much to eat at your meals - the letters have it - Breakfast = B = Big, Lunch = L = Less, Supper = S = Smaller.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.1.1    3 weeks ago

Good advice.

 
 
 
Kavika
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14  Kavika     4 weeks ago
The Israeli leader quickly denounced the sanctions. “The vast majority of settlers,” he said in a statement, ”are law-abiding citizens, many of them these days are fighting as conscripts and reservists for the defense of Israel.” He said his country “takes action against law-breakers in every place, and therefore there is no place for exceptional steps on this measure.”

I'm sure that Netanyahu denounced them because that is what many so called ''settlers'' are doing. There are numerous documented cases of this happening to both Palestinians and Bedouins. 

The US has warned Netanyahu to stop this on a number of occasions and they have done nothing, so it was no surprise to Netanyahu and his administration that a hammer was going to fall soon and it did.

Netanyahu has claimed on more than one occasion that the West Bank is for Jews. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday vowed to extend  “Jewish sovereignty”  to all settlements in the West Bank —

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14    4 weeks ago
There are numerous documented cases of this happening to both Palestinians and Bedouins. 

Sometimes people reap what they sow.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
14.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    4 weeks ago

You seriously think the West Bank Palestinians and especially the Bedouins are in any way related to Hamas?

Gaza and the West Bank aren't even geographically connected.

While Hamas has expanded into the West Bank- that is thanks to Israel and the PA. You can't stop or kill off an ideology. Hamas is also very limited in what it can do in the West Bank- like defending Palestinian refugee camps from IDF/Israeli settler aggression.

Not all Palestinians are evil terrorists. Most just want to live on land that has been in their family for thousands of years in peace. Land which more is being taken by Israel every year.

Like I said- this is the first time I have agreed with Brandon since he took office.

We don't need Zionist (read fascist) Israeli settlers spreading their hate in the US. Just like we don't need Hamas, Hezbollah, or PA Palestinians here either.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    4 weeks ago

There are 500,000 Israelis now in the West Bank that are illegal.

Do you understand that 250,000 Bedouins are citizens of Israel, live in Israel and are members of the IDF?

What have the Bedouins sowed to be killled and forced from their home, Vic?

The history of the Jews and Bedouins goes back decades,, the Bedouins fought with the Jews in their war for independence and there is a monument built by Jews to honor Bedouins who fought and died for Israel on a hill in Galilee dedicated by PM Rabin.

On 10/9 Bedouins saved Jewish lives some were Cilivans that risked it all to save Jews and some were in the IDF that fought and died for Israel.

And you say they reap what they sow. What they have sowed is that they are warriors for Israel and have earned the right to live on a small piece of land safely and not be attacked by the crazed right wing of Israel.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @14.1.1    3 weeks ago

I understand what you are saying, and I appreciate your empathy for the people that live in the West Bank. I say they can no longer live near Israel. There is a large population of Palestinians living in Jordan. I am one of those who believes they should be relocated there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.2    3 weeks ago

I simply believe the Palestinians need to live away from Israel.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
14.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.4    3 weeks ago

That is not the overwhelming view in mainland Israel, Vic. They don't want Netanyahu... as for the WB, opinions vary widely. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.1.5    3 weeks ago
That is not the overwhelming view in mainland Israel, Vic.

I understand that.


  They don't want Netanyahu.

They can remove him. The relocation idea actually comes from those to the right of Netanyahu.

"Into that void has stepped a group – once fringe, but now in the governing coalition –that hopes for full Israeli control, to  resettle Gaza and even expel Palestinians . And its ideas are permeating mainstream debate.

“We must promote a solution to encourage the emigration of the residents of Gaza,” far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said on January 1.

Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who also holds a position in the Defense Ministry, says that Israel “will rule there. And in order to rule there securely for a long time, we must have a civilian presence.”

Israel’s far-right wants to move Palestinians out of Gaza. Its ideas are gaining attention | CNN




as for the WB, opinions vary widely.

As we can see here.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.3    3 weeks ago

If Netanyahu and his government push through with the plan to cleanse the WB of non-Jews you are looking at ethnic cleansing. Now do you think the Palestinians, Bedouins, Druze, Chrissans will react all are citizens of Israel and all are citizens of Israel. Israel, IMO, will no longer be a democracy but a Theocracy. 

Netanyahu will be reaping what he has sown.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.7    3 weeks ago

It most likely will be the government that succeeds his.  Let us face the fact that the Palestinians voted for Hamas and historically have rejected all kinds of deals that would have meant a peaceful coexistence.  They simply cannot live next to Israel.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.8    3 weeks ago

Let's face the fact that the Bedouins have never attacked Israel and are strong allies of Israel as where the other groups I mentioned.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.9    3 weeks ago

We are talking about the Palestinians.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.11  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.10    3 weeks ago

You're aware that Bedouins are considered Palestinians, right? Also there are 1.6 million Palestinians living in Israel as Israeli citizens and many are part of the IDF and reserves.

Does Israel throw them out as well?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.11    3 weeks ago

We'll cut out a special provision for them. I'll put in a good word with Ben-Gvir when the time comes.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.13  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.12    3 weeks ago

You will be better off putting in a good word for Netanyahu since there is a good chace he'll be persona non grata or in prison after this.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.13    3 weeks ago
in prison after this.

Maybe Obama can try and topple his government again? 

Try to remember, I'll with those to the right of Netanyahu.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.15  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.14    3 weeks ago
Maybe Obama can try and topple his government again? 

More nonsense.

Try to remember, I'll with those to the right of Netanyahu.

Most right of Netanyahu seem to support ethnic cleansing in the WB and Gaza.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.1.16  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.14    3 weeks ago

See 12.2.1.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
14.1.17  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.1.5    3 weeks ago

You can say they don't want Netanyahu; but somehow he- and the extremists to the right of him keep getting elected to the majority.

They might get rid of Bibi- but there is nothing showing that he won't be replaced by someone to the right of him who is far harsher.

There are good Israelis that want peace; just like there are good Palestinians that want peace. Yet somehow both sides get ruled by the extremes. Until those that want peace are in the majority on both sides and the radicals are replaced nothing will get done.

That doesn't look like it will happen.

.

Only 35% of Israelis think “a way can be found for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully,” according to the survey, which was conducted in March and April, prior to the latest violence in the West Bank. That represents a decline of 9 percentage points since 2017 and 15 points since 2013.

The feeling that peaceful coexistence is possible has decreased over the past decade among both Arabs and Jews living in Israel.

Still, views among Arab Israelis have shifted significantly more than they have among Jewish Israelis. Arab Israelis are now 33 points less likely than they were in 2013 to see the possibility of a peaceful coexistence between Israel and an independent Palestinian state. Jewish Israelis are 14 points less likely to see this possibility than in 2013.

Among the major subgroups of Jews in Israel, those who are Masorti (“traditional”) and those who are Haredi/Dati (“ultra-Orthodox” and “religious,” respectively) have grown less confident in recent years that peaceful coexistence is possible. The share of Masorti Jews who see the possibility of a peaceful coexistence has declined from 33% in 2017 to 17% this year. Among Haredi/Dati Jews, the share who see this possibility has fallen from 22% to 7%. (Because of small sample sizes, we combined Haredim and Datiim in this analysis.)

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
14.1.18  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.3    3 weeks ago

Jordan isn't Palestine. Neither is Syria, Lebanon, or Egypt.

All of those places have a large Palestinian population already- many living in refugee camps rife with Hezbollah recruitment. It is easy because they have no hope; their standard of living is nothing unless they join.

Trying to force Palestinians into those places will not bring Israelis peace. It will bring civil war to Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon (Syria is already fighting a civil war that might never end).

Iran would love it. They could have an army of Palestinians eager to fight Israel to get back their land. Is Israel ready to fight a 4 front war with people that have nothing to lose and no place to retreat to? 

I am sure Israel would win, eventually; and become a bigger world pariah than they already are.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @14.1.18    3 weeks ago
Trying to force Palestinians into those places will not bring Israelis peace.

Do you really see Palestinians and Israelis coexisting?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @14.1.15    3 weeks ago

I'll ask you the same question I asked Ronin:

Do you think Israelis and Palestinians can coexist?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.1.21  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.20    3 weeks ago

yes

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
14.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @14    3 weeks ago

Kavika, this article is from Sept, and the events of Oct 7th might have changed things.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2    3 weeks ago

Actually it's a couple of years old and that was the point Netanyahu has pushed this postion for years and there are numerous other article up to and including the last few months where he is saying the same thing.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
14.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @14.2.1    3 weeks ago

But it still hasn't happened and it really can't if he is hoping for American support, which he knows. An empty political promise.

Anyway, after the war, he'll be gone.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.2    3 weeks ago
Anyway, after the war, he'll be gone.

Let us assume he will be gone. Can you be sure that the next government will be a more liberal one?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.2.4  Kavika   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.2    3 weeks ago

It is happening as we speak, Perrie and has been for some time. That is the point and yes, if Netanyahu and the administration do it American support will disappear as it should.

Anyway, after the war, he'll be gone.

I sure hope so.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
14.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.2.3    3 weeks ago

He's gone Vic. Between what was going on before politically, and this major blunder of Oct 7th and how the families feel about the hostages, he is done.

As for the outcome, IDK. I'm thinking some strange mash-up is ahead since they are allowed coalition governments.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.5    3 weeks ago
I'm thinking some strange mash-up is ahead since they are allowed coalition governments.

That could very well be. I'm thinking a more hardline government may replace him. You know I think that would be the best for everyone.

You mentioned the families of the hostages. I think their voices were a negative in all of this, I'm sad to say.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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14.2.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.5    3 weeks ago

I think that our strategy is to give Bibi a deal that he can't refuse but his coalition can't accept.

Blinken is headed back to the ME next week?  He will try to get the Saudi - Israel deal back in negotiation.  The Saudis will demand a ceasefire in Gaza and some sort of Israeli commitment to an eventual two state solution.  Mohammed bin Salman also wants a security guarantee with the US to counter Iran's growing power.

Bibi knows his reputation is now shot unless he pulls off something truly historical, like normalizations with Saudi Arabia.  He might agree to a "pause" in Gaza while if hostages are being released.  The trick is to string out the release slow enough to get a deal done with SA.  The Israeli cabinet won't go for it.  

If it works, Bibi will have to form a much more moderate coalition or he will also be replace.

Complicated with tight timing, but worth a shot (pun intended).

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
15  Kavika     3 weeks ago

Some of the strikes hit the Islamic Revolutionary Guard which is part of  Iran military proper and I heard that strikes also hit the Quds Force another part of Iran and their army.

If we keep destroying munitions storage, command centers, and radar centers soon the proxies will have little to fight with and will be on Iran's doorstep begging for more supplies. That will put Iran in a hot spot, either support their proxies and see them destroyed or walk away from them and create an internal blowback in Iran.

Also, this is designed not to have a full-on confrontation/war with Iran which could set the ME ablaze. It's a tightrope that we are walking and one designed to create maximum pain on both Iran and their proxies.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @15    3 weeks ago
Some of the strikes hit the Islamic Revolutionary Guard which is part of  Iran military proper and I heard that strikes also hit the Quds Force another part of Iran and their army.

I'd be very interested in the results/damage estimates of those attacks.

Please post them.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
15.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1    3 weeks ago

I am shocked that you haven't been able to find them,  they are on Fox News, and CNN and other major media.

US retaliation strikes hit 85 targets in Iraq and Syria, 36 Houthi sites in Yemen

The Popular Mobilization Front that is undere the control of the Iranian army was also hit and as you can see in the header we hit 36 sites in Yemen last night. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @15.1.1    3 weeks ago
I am shocked that you haven't been able to find them, 

I asked for damage reports. You said the Islamic Revolutionary Guard has been hit. How many were killed?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
16  Kavika     3 weeks ago

The article states that the RG Quads Force and the Popular Mobilization Front were hit. No information on how many were killed and why is that so important to you? Have you ever seen a service person's body that has been KIA, probably not, it's not a pretty sight it's gruesome and can stay with you for life if you're part of it. But, different strokes for different folks. 

When the information is available you'll be the first to know.

No need to shout if you feel you're not getting your way, just for your information I don't take directives from you. You'll get what you get and the other alternative is look up your own questions.

Cheers

Your favorite Squad Leader.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @16    3 weeks ago
No information on how many were killed and why is that so important to you?

The answer is obvious. If the none of them were killed, they really weren't hit. You don't have any damage reports. All you have is a very weak defense of Joe Biden.


Have a great night.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
16.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @16.1    3 weeks ago
The answer is obvious. If the none of them were killed, they really weren't hit. You don't have any damage reports. All you have is a very weak defense of Joe Biden.

Now that response borders on the ridiculous, we destroy missile sites, command centers, tracking and radar sites, ammo dumps and we aren't hitting them. LMAOjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
17  Kavika     3 weeks ago

NEWS FLASH, NEWS FLASH FOR VIC.

U.S. launches strikes in Iraq, Syria, nearly 40 reported killed

Damasus reports 13 fighters killed by US strikes.

Thank goodness I found this for you Vic, I didn't want you going to sleep without knowing that the US struck hard and killed a bunch of people. I'm sure that you can sleep well now.

Have a wonderful night

Squad Leader Kavika

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @17    3 weeks ago

Only 40?  We need hundreds or thousands. /s

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
17.1.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @17.1    3 weeks ago

We're just getting started US Central Command will be contacting NT to get the daily number our member wants killed. 

This is exciting NT is now part of the war, and a member can gloat over the KIAs.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
17.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1    3 weeks ago

40 is a good start.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @17.1.1    3 weeks ago

Since he is so worried about the body count, I assume he has a concrete figure in mind. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
17.1.4  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @17.1.3    3 weeks ago

Probably around a million, turn Iran into glass. Yea, that's the ticket.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
17.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @17.1.4    3 weeks ago

urban renewal.

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
17.1.6  fineline  replied to  Texan1211 @17.1.5    3 weeks ago

False Churches, Bigotry and Greed ! Get that plexotomy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
17.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  fineline @17.1.6    3 weeks ago

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Snuffy
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18  Snuffy    3 weeks ago

Good old Joe..  he just keeps getting funnier and funnier...

President Biden told a crowd in Las Vegas on Sunday that he recently met with Francois Mitterrand, the   French president   who has been dead for nearly 30 years. 

The comments came while Biden was warning of the dangers of a potential second   Trump presidency , as he aimed to shore up enthusiasm ahead of Tuesday’s Democratic primary in Nevada. 

Biden recounted a story he has told many times during his presidency, about a meeting he had with French President Emmanuel Macron during a G7 meeting in England, some months after Biden had taken over the  White House

"I sat down and I said, ‘America’s back,’" Biden recalled. "And Mitterrand from Germany – I mean from France – looked at me and said…" 

Biden appeared to trail off before collecting his thoughts to finish the sentence: "Well, how long are you back for?" 

The president continued, saying the "Chancellor of Germany" asked him how he – and by extension, the U.S. – would respond if, hypothetically, thousands of people stormed Britain’s House of Commons and killed two "bobbies," or British police officers, to stop the election of a Prime Minister. 

François Mitterrand was France's president between 1981 and 1995. He died in 1996. 

Biden tells crowd he recently met with Mitterrand, former French president who died in 1996 | Fox News

 
 

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