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Ron DeSantis condemned as Florida removes sociology as core college class

  

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By:  kavika  •  one month ago  •  40 comments

Ron DeSantis condemned as Florida removes sociology as core college class

E ducators are warning that college enrollment in Florida will plummet after the state removed sociology as a core class from campuses in the latest round of Ron DeSantis’s war on “woke ideology”.

The Republican governor’s hand-picked board of education   voted on Wednesday   to replace the established course on the principles of sociology at its 12 public universities with its own US history curriculum, incorporating an “historically accurate account of America’s founding [and] the horrors of slavery”.


The board faced a   backlash   last summer for requiring public schools to teach that   forced labor was beneficial   to enslaved Black people because it taught them useful skills.

The removal as a required core course of sociology classes, which Florida education commissioner and staunch DeSantis acolyte Manny Díaz insisted without evidence had “been   hijacked by leftwing activists ,” follows several other recent “anti-woke” moves in education in Florida.

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They include the   banning an advanced placement class in African American studies , and last week’s   board ruling   crystalizing a plan by DeSantis, who dropped out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination at the weekend, to   abolish diversity, enquiry and inclusion (DEI) programs   in Florida’s universities and colleges.


The American Sociological Association said there was no evidentiary basis for replacing the sociology course.

“This decision seems to be coming not from an informed perspective, but rather from a gross misunderstanding of sociology as an illegitimate discipline driven by ‘radical’ and ‘woke’ ideology,” the American Sociological Association said in a statement to the Guardian.

“Sociology is the scientific study of social life, social change, and the social causes and consequences of human behavior, which are at the core of civic literacy and are essential to a broad range of careers.

“Failure to prioritize the scientific study of the causes and consequences of human behavior is a failure of Florida’s commitment to providing high-quality civics education and workforce readiness.”

The association called for the board to reverse its “outrageous” decision.


Anne Barrett, a professor of sociology at Florida State University, said the ruling was the latest attack by DeSantis and his allies in the “culture wars they are waging” on campuses.

“These regulations are devastating for sociology in Florida. Enrollments will plummet. The opportunity to recruit majors will almost disappear. Weakened sociology departments are ripe for elimination and, ultimately, faculty layoffs,” she said in   an essay   for the National Education Association.

“The costs to society are higher still. Sociology students learn how to use empirical research and logic to assess the accuracy of claims made about the social world. They also gain skills to critique how power is distributed.

“In short, they are positioned to be engaged citizens, armed with the power to destabilize right-wing policy makers’ agendas, and this is the threat these regulations seek to neutralize.”


Ray Rodrigues, chancellor of the state university system of Florida’s board of governors, praised the ruling for the “positive impact the addition of this [US history] course will have on our students and their future success”.

Díaz, however, has taken a more political approach to the board’s recent rulings, echoing DeSantis’s stance that college campuses are a hotbed of radical left activism in need of reform. Last year the governor engineered a   rightwing takeover of a popular liberal arts college .

“Higher education must return to its essential foundations of academic integrity and the pursuit of knowledge instead of being corrupted by destructive ideologies,” Díaz said following last week’s DEI ruling.

“These actions today ensure that we will not spend taxpayers’ money supporting DEI and radical indoctrination that promotes division in our society.”

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Kavika
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1  author  Kavika     one month ago

The Pied Piper of ''wokeness'' is leading Florida's charge to the bottom. We don't need no stinkin' sociology classes, hell we don't need none of that woke stuff like History, English, Math, damn Yankees tryin to bring that to backward Florida is communism fer sure.

Now that ''His Shortness in white boots'' is headed back to Florida with his pizza between his legs the rest of the US saw what a putz he is.

Welcome home Gov.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Kavika @1    one month ago

'His Shortness in white boots''

Michael Dukakis, in his tank helmet, is smiling today. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Kavika   replied to  afrayedknot @1.1    one month ago
Michael Dukakis, and his tank helmet, is smiling today. 

I'm sure that he is, no longer the butt of presidential campaign memes.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1    one month ago

that subject has been replaced with dennis prager's american history class...

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.2.1  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.2    one month ago
that subject has been replaced with dennis prager's american history class...

Yup, the un accredited loud mouth of the right wing.

 
 
 
CB
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1.3  CB  replied to  Kavika @1    one month ago

LOL! Kavika, it is. . .evident by a series of comments now that you really don't like DeSantis and/or his policies. :)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    one month ago

E ducators are warning that college enrollment in Florida will plummet after the state removed sociology as a core class from campuses in

This is the funniest sentence you will read on the internet today. Imagine (1) believing it's true (2) there's an audience of people who could possibly believe this. Of all the attempts at fear mongering you'll see, none will ever be more ridiculous than that.

If you ever want proof that DeSantis has broken the brains of many progressives, that single sentence demonstrates just how insane their obsession is.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one month ago

Who the hell bases their education on whether sociology is offered or not? LMAO

 
 
 
George
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2.1.1  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    one month ago

The funny thing is that sociology is still offered, and you can take it, it is just an elective now and doesn't count as a core class for graduation. I guess they will find out very quickly how much value the students put on the class.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @2.1.1    one month ago

Didn't realize that. That being said, who wants to take it if it isn't required. I guess it would be a good sluff class for credits.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  George @2.1.1    one month ago

So it's NOT removed as the left want everybody to believe.  So all this is just more fictional outrage.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    one month ago
fictional outrage

republicans should be used to that after 8 years of trump ...

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    one month ago

“Who the hell bases their education on whether sociology is offered or not?”

Uh…sociology majors?

And go ahead and discount how the science of dissecting and analyzing and understanding how our shared cultures and our shared history and our shared interactions affect how we perceive and make informed decisions going forward is somehow not important and somehow not worth teaching. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.5    one month ago

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Kavika
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2.1.7  author  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    one month ago
So it's NOT removed as the left want everybody to believe.  So all this is just more fictional outrage.

If you read the article the very first paragraph states that it is removed as a core class...Pay attention.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @2.1.4    one month ago

Unrelated but what ever.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.9  author  Kavika   replied to  George @2.1.1    one month ago

The opening paragraph of the article states exactly that, thanks for highlighting it once again.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.10  author  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    one month ago
Who the hell bases their education on whether sociology is offered or not? LMAO

These people, so it is obviously above your pay grade.

sociology is currently a core requirement for many fields of study, such as healthcare, dental hygiene, and human services. It also serves as a basic introduction to urban planning and social work, as well as many other programs at the various higher ed institutions across the state.Jan 18, 2024
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @2.1.7    one month ago

So as I stated - it's NOT removed as the left want everybody to believe.  So all this is just more fictional outrage.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.9    one month ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.10    one month ago

It must be a woke thing Kav.

lol

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.14  author  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.11    one month ago
So as I stated - it's NOT removed as the left want everybody to believe.  So all this is just more fictional outrage.

Making assumptions and false statements seems to be your MO. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.14    one month ago

You got that right kav!  lol

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Kavika @2.1.10    one month ago
healthcare, dental hygiene, and human services

 As you have shown, it is just another part of the curriculum. And now, in Florida, it isn't a core requirement so it can't be all that important. And thanks for the fucking insult.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @2.1.14    one month ago

You've proven my statement to be correct.  So is it really a false statement?  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @2.1.10    one month ago
such as healthcare, dental hygiene, and human services.

And people in those fields can take as many sociology courses as they want. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.16    one month ago

Of course it's important, just not to certain shitheads in Flori-duh.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.20  author  Kavika   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.16    one month ago
nd now, in Florida, it isn't a core requirement so it can't be all that important. And thanks for the fucking insult.

You're welcome when you post an ignorant comment that sometimes happens. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.21  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.18    one month ago
And people in those fields can take as many sociology courses as they want. 

Did anyone or anywhere in the article say that they couldn't? Nope it said it was no longer a core course. Reading is essential.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.22  author  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.17    one month ago
You've proven my statement to be correct. 

LOL, nope, but keep trying to BS your way. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.2  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one month ago
This is the funniest sentence you will read on the internet today. Imagine (1) believing it's true (2) there's an audience of people who could possibly believe this. Of all the attempts at fear mongering you'll see, none will ever be more ridiculous than that.

Hi Sean, back again trying to use your vast knowledge of the political world or the educational world or is it human response? What is it with Cheeseheads that they believe themselves to be so superior to us mortal beings? They are able to cross all cultural, racial, educational and political lines and know what others are thinking and only they can be correct. It must be the dairy products that your comsuming.

If you ever want proof that DeSantis has broken the brains of many progressives, that single sentence demonstrates just how insane their obsession is.  

LOL, DeSantis couldn't break the brains of ants, the chosen one that started out his presidential campaign with more funds and support than any other only to fuck it up time after time until he came back to Florida a whipped pussy who is now going to be crucified by Trump...That DeSantis?

 
 
 
George
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2.2.1  George  replied to  Kavika @2.2    one month ago
LOL, DeSantis couldn't break the brains of ant,

DeSantis graduated from Yale and Harvard law school, so you feel comfortable insulting his intelligence?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  George @2.2.1    one month ago

DeSantis is a spineless, former 'president' ass kisser, weasel, how intelligent is that to sell your soul to such a turd?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.3  author  Kavika   replied to  George @2.2.1    one month ago
DeSantis graduated from Yale and Harvard law school, so you feel comfortable insulting his intelligence?

Sure do, and it's more of his lack of common sense which he has provided in spades. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @2.2    one month ago
ack again trying to use your vast knowledge of the political world or the educational world or is it human response

Does it take vast knowledge to know removing sociology as a required class won't cause enrollment at Florida universities to plummet?   They say there's a sucker born every day, and if  people actually believe it will  we might have the ultimate proof. 

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devangelical
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2.2.5  devangelical  replied to  George @2.2.1    one month ago
DeSantis graduated from Yale and Harvard law school

quite a few trump dick suckers have, and they're all real popular in america too... /s

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.2.6  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.4    one month ago
Does it take vast knowledge to know removing sociology as a required class won't cause enrollment at Florida universities to plummet?   They say there's a sucker born every day, and if  people actually believe it will  we might have the ultimate proof. 

It could but it also blends in with all your other assumpions. Your aware of what they say about assumptions, which is also the ultimate proof of delusions of the right wing. 

But, kudos for not seeding an article with a blatant lie in the headline on your second attempt to cover this story.  

Why thank you so much, Sean. You would certainly be the one to know about lies and lying if anyone would.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4  author  Kavika     one month ago

These articles must be like honey to a bee. I post them and the usual suspects show up and rant on without reading, or if they did read the article didn't understand it. It's pointed out to them that what they are complaining about is stated in the article, but true to form they do their best to ignore the obvious.

Thank you all for participating but it would be so much better if you read the article and tried to comment on the facts, oh and it would save you some embarrassment as well.

Cheers

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @4    one month ago
it would save you some embarrassment as well.

They dont get embarrassed Kavika. If they did we wouldnt see half the comments we see here. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago
They dont get embarrassed Kavika. If they did we wouldnt see half the comments we see here. 

That has become increasingly obvious in the articles posted, when one denies their own words that are in posted comments you have to realize that critical thinking is lost in space in fact any thinking on their part is lost in space.

 
 

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