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The House passed a spending bill yesterday.

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  168 comments

The House passed a spending bill yesterday.
Breaking News: The House passed a stopgap spending bill hours after the Senate voted on the measure, moving to fund federal agencies through March. President Biden expected to sign it before the midnight deadline on Friday.

For the second time, a Republican Speaker pushed through a spending bill with mostly democrat votes. Johnson really had little choice. If he shut down the government out of principle, the Republicans would get all the blame. On the other hand, he seems to have a bit more goodwill from the right than McCarthy had and was able to work with democrats. This bill is only another band aid that keeps the government running through early March while congress deals with 12 spending bills. 107 Republicans backed the bill and 106 opposed it. 207 democrats backed Johnson and 2 others opposed it.

The real fight will come over immigration, which House Republicans have tied to aid for Ukraine. That will be the true test of Johnson's good standing with the right wing of his party as well as the radical left which controls the democrat party. It is also a serious matter for Joe Biden. The open border crisis has plagued his presidential campaign and his unending support for Ukraine is now tossed into the mix.


In other news:

Israel has greatly reduced the intensity of military operations in northern Gaza.

In a Brooklyn classroom there appears to be a map of the middle east devoid the state of Israel.

A Houthi militia leader has vowed to continue attacking merchant ships in the Red Sea. He may have not heard Biden's warning of "don't."

Hunter Biden agreed to be deposed in a private session before congress next month.

Republicans are on the verge of impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas. Yesterday Mayorkas decided not to appear before a congressional hearing, most likely because two mothers, who had lost their children, one to fentanyl and the other to a notorious south American gang member who crossed the border, were present. 

Macys will be closing 5 stores and cutting 2,000 jobs.

Karine Jean-Pierre falsely claims, "One thing the president does not do is insult voters or the American people." She said it with a straight face!


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Good morning

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We shall continue our battle against antisemitism, Marxist propaganda, and the deep state.

We must save democracy from Joe Biden.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago
We must save democracy from Joe Biden.

And that 3.7% UE rate for the last two years? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    one month ago
And that 3.7% UE rate for the last two years

Do you realize that the UE has absolutely NOTHING to do with democracy?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    one month ago

That is a good thing- because Brandon can only cook the books on his job creation record. The US isn't back to pre pandemic levels of job creation.

Here is what Democrats really need to know.

Biden’s Current Rating Worse Than Other Modern Presidents at Same Point

Looking at the approval ratings of the past seven presidents at the same point in their first term in office, Biden’s current 39% is the lowest. Barack Obama (43%) and Donald Trump (45%) had slightly higher ratings heading into the year they sought reelection, while all of the others were above 50%.

Job approval ratings of Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush were 51%, and Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter stood at 54%. Buoyed by the mid-December capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, George W. Bush had the highest approval rating of the eight presidents (58%).

Brandon is setting records at being the worst everywhere.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.2    one month ago

Not even fox fake news can deny it. 

Dotard LOST 3 million jobs, he's already Herbert Hover. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.3    one month ago

Heard of Covid?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.4    one month ago

Don't bring in facts.  They don't like that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    one month ago
‘The best is yet to come’

He must be really hoping the economy crashes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @2.1    one month ago

You mean like many democrats would?

No, he is an American to the core.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    one month ago

“No, he is an American to the core.”

No, he is rotten to the core. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.2    one month ago

The people, you know, the ones who work and pay taxes and make the world go around, would disagree with you.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    one month ago
You mean like many democrats would?

"I know you are but what am I?" 

Seriously? I was talking about Dotard who last I checked, is a republiturd. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.4    one month ago

The hatred for Trump is pathological.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    one month ago

If only he wasn't the biggest asshole in American history..... he could have avoided all this.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    one month ago
If only he wasn't the biggest asshole in American history...

Proof please

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    one month ago

What were you saying about you merely being a "liberal?"

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    one month ago

You translate opposition to Trump as hatred.   While some people certainly do hate Trump (just as some hate Biden), the main reason for the opposition to Trump is his wrongdoing and his utter unfitness for office.   IMO.

I, for example, do not hate Trump.  I would say I hold him in contempt.   I think he is an abysmal individual who is by far the worst potential nominee for PotUS in our history.   I also hold that he has set a terrible precedent for this nation with his Big Lie scheme (and classified docs) wrongdoings and that for the good of the nation he must be held accountable.

As for private citizen Trump, I care as much about his various civil lawsuits as I would anyone else.   If he engaged in wrongdoing then he should be held liable.   And in cases where he is targeted for likely political reasons such as in NY, I am against the targeting but in favor of fairly treating him under the law and be held accountable if found liable.

To wit, my personal concern regarding Trump is about the terrible precedent he set and the likelihood that this irresponsible, vindictive, narcissistic, traitor would gain the power of the presidency.    My concern is for the nation; Trump is the individual who is the driving force behind the problem.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.9    one month ago

I have to disagree. 

You see, if there are valid reasons to prosecute a former President, they should be done at once. That way we have trials, possible convictions and appeals all well before an election that was years away at the time these things should have taken place. Not cleverly timed so as to produce a conviction before an election while having the appeals relegated to after the election.

There is also the matter of the nature of the prosecutors. We have people who ran on "getting Trump" and another who trampled all ethics by visiting Joe Biden, who by the way has publicly been calling for the prosecution of his political opponent. Another is trying to speed up the trial to obviously get a conviction in before the election. We have judges to have risked a mistrial by denying the defenses every request.

That leaves reasonable people with the conclusion that this is a very evil plot to interfere in the 2024 election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    one month ago
That leaves reasonable people with the conclusion that this is a very evil plot to interfere in the 2024 election.

Prior to Trump announcing he was running, at Thanksgiving of 2022 , it was well known that he might be indicted at some point.  So why the fuck did he run? 

He uses his candidacy as a shield against his legal problems. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.11    one month ago

The POINT was why did they take so long to indict Trump?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.11    one month ago
Prior to Trump announcing he was running, at Thanksgiving of 2022 , it was well known that he might be indicted at some point. 

That is Pravda talk. It was well known by whom?  If there was a problem then it should have been prosecuted then!  


So why the fuck did he run? 

So why the fuck didn't they prosecute?


If he didn't run again there wouldn't have been any "trials."  The calculated timing proves that it is once again, election interference by democrats.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.12    one month ago

Because Merrick Garland was afraid of being seen as partisan, and the DOJ slow walked the investigations into Trump. 

He didnt have to run, when he announced he was already a suspected criminal. He should have stayed in Maralago and golfed and grabbed Melanias pussy all day and leave the rest of us alone. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.14    one month ago
Because Merrick Garland was afraid of being seen as partisan,

Well, I'd say he failed miserably on that count.


He didnt have to run

Well John, if the dems hadn't changed the rules in the last election, Trump would be coming to the end of his second term, and you wouldn't have to be going nuts about him running again.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.14    one month ago
Because Merrick Garland was afraid of being seen as partisan, and the DOJ slow walked the investigations into Trump. 

That is hilarious. Just fucking hilarious!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    one month ago
if there are valid reasons to prosecute a former President, they should be done at once.

A rule you invented.   There clearly are valid reasons.   There is no 'if'; the indictments have merit.   The evidence is overwhelming.   The fact that it took time for the mechanics of justice to act is irrelevant.

Not cleverly timed ...

The indictments have helped Trump.   

We have people who ran on "getting Trump" 

Forget about the citizen Trump lawsuits.   As I have noted repeatedly to you in particular, what is most important are the wrongdoings by Trump as PotUS.   He set a horrible precedent that can only be mitigated by holding him accountable.   The rule of law.   Right vs. wrong.   All those things that the former GoP rightly held dear.

Another is trying to speed up the trial to obviously get a conviction in before the election.

Countering a likely attempt by Trump, if elected, to halt the process by abusing the powers of the presidency.

That leaves reasonable people with the conclusion that this is a very evil plot to interfere in the 2024 election.

Reasonable, rational people recognize wrongdoing and rightfully seek to hold Trump accountable.   They recognize that Trump is a traitor;  the only PotUS in our history who has attempted to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   Who has violated his oath of office by attempting to circumvent the CotUS and attack the foundation of democracy — the vote of the electorate.

It is delusional to pretend that Trump is merely a victim.   He has been indicted for cause.   He engaged in serious wrongdoing and the evidence is overwhelming.   Denying this reality is what should be defined as "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.14    one month ago

He was afraid of being partisan so he timed the indictments so they would have the maximum political impact.  Sure 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.12    one month ago
The POINT was why did they take so long to indict Trump?

People can only speculate.   So asking this question is meaningless.

Do you think the Big Lie indictments are without merit?   If not, then the timing is a moot point.   If so, let's hear your argument.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.18    one month ago

Yeah, that shit doesn't fly, does it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.15    one month ago

Trump lost because people had seen him in office for four years and wanted an end to it. He lost because  tens of thousands of people in the swing states left him off their vote. They left the presidential line on the ballot blank. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.17    one month ago
 They recognize that Trump is a traitor;  the only PotUS in our history who has attempted to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   Who has violated his oath of office by attempting to circumvent the CotUS and attack the foundation of democracy — the vote of the electorate.

Where is that charge ????

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.23  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.22    one month ago

LOL. 

You are in for a big surprise then when his election fraud trial starts. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.10    one month ago

One would like to think, with the mountains of evidence claimed, it would have been a quick slam dunk on prosecuting Trump.

Are the people in the JD just incompetent?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.19    one month ago

Why do you repeat questions?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.21    one month ago
Trump lost because people had seen him in office for four years and wanted an end to it.

I doubt anyone who hates Trump has ever considered his policies.


He lost because  tens of thousands of people in the swing states left him off their vote.

He got enough votes to win any other presidential election in American history. The man who won didn't even campaign. That man now has a record to defend.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.26    one month ago

That man now has a record to defend.

 And smart voters will not reelect Biden.
His 'record' is lacking.
 
 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.28  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    one month ago

“The hatred for Trump is pathological.”

The understanding of trump…who he is, what he represents, and thus the reason he is called out, is the most important and lasting indictment. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.24    one month ago

I hate to say it, but they are going to get what they want. These trials are playing out in NYC, DC and Fulton County GA. Those are places where one can get a conviction against Donald Trump for virtually anything. It is the appeals that would vindicate Trump and we won't hear those until after the election.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.29    one month ago

Tell you the truth, I don't give a fuck about Trump the man, but the whole mess seems squirelly to me, especially the timing.

Seems like many want Trump gone but they just can't stop yapping about him 24/7

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.32  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.27    one month ago
And smart voters will not reelect Biden.

Who will smart voters elect?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.33  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.32    one month ago

someone not named Biden or Trump.

Voting for Biden based on his record shows little intelligence 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.34  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.30    one month ago

Do you think dumb ass would have won without widespread mail-in voting?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.35  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.26    one month ago
I doubt anyone who hates Trump has ever considered his policies.

That is ridiculous. 

Trump's policies were GOP policies.   There are plenty of GOP members who could, as PotUS, support those policies.   There is no need for Trump.

Just amazing that you are rooting for Trump because of his policies while dismissing all of his wrongdoings and personal negatives and ignoring the fact that he is not necessary for those policies to manifest.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.36  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.31    one month ago

So if people stopped talking about him he would voluntarily go ?   LOL. 

A few weeks after Jan 6 Trump announced he would stay involved in politics and the Republicans started lining up to pledge loyalty to him . He never had any intention of leaving, whether Democrats talked about him or not. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.37  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.33    one month ago
someone not named Biden or Trump.

Who is that, Texan?   In what alternate reality do you see someone other than Biden or Trump getting elected?

I really want to know because I am very keen to elect someone other than one of those.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.38  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.35    one month ago

No one NEEDS Trump, not even the Republicans. Haley, DeSantis, Christie, Pence and others would have all carried on with "Republican" and conservative policies.  MAGA wants Trump not despite what he is but because of what he is. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.39  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.34    one month ago

Are you suggesting that the mail-in votes were fraudulent?   That they were not actual votes by the electorate and that somehow they were fake votes that falsely elected Biden?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.36    one month ago
So if people stopped talking about him he would voluntarily go ?  

Is THAT what you think I wrote? lol indeed.

if you want to discuss it, at least relate your post to something I actually wrote.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.41  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.34    one month ago
Do you think dumb ass would have won without widespread mail-in voting?

Do you hate Biden?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.42  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.37    one month ago
Who is that, Texan

I'll let you figure it out, I already told you someone not named Biden or Trump.

You have already resigned yourself to voting for Biden.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.43  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.42    one month ago

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Texan1211
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2.1.44  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.43    one month ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.45  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.34    one month ago

Mail in voting was expanded because of the pandemic. You dont seem to understand that. 

I think it is quasi- realistic to bemoan the fact that mail in voting was expanded. those were the breaks. 

But the idea that mail in voting means Trump was cheated is insane. 

This is the CNN polling information (poll of polls) on Georgia a few days before the election

800

What on earth do Trump supporters have to complain about? They were behind in the polls in Georgia and they lost. Get over it sometime this century please. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.46  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.44    one month ago

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TᵢG
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2.1.47  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.42    one month ago

In short, you have no answer.

It is almost certainty that the next PotUS will be Trump or Biden.   Assuming this remains true, there is no way a voter can use their vote to elect someone other than Biden or Trump.

Both men have major negatives (Trump's being an order of magnitude worse that Biden's) so legitimate criticism exists either way.  

You claimed:

Texan@2.1.33Voting for Biden based on his record shows little intelligence 

So do you think it is 'intelligent' to vote for a third party or not vote at all (equivalent in 2024)?   Do you think it is 'intelligent' to vote for Trump?

What is the intelligent move for 2024 presidential voters?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.48  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.47    one month ago
In short, you have no answer

In truth, you simply won't accept an answer 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.49  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.48    one month ago

I asked you a profoundly important question and you refuse to answer.

You stated that it would not be intelligent to vote for Biden.   You did not include Trump.

Since we only have Biden and Trump, your comments logically leave the impression that you think the intelligent choice is Trump.

The impression left by your refusal becomes your answer.

Your refusal brings your claim of never voting for Trump into question.   Someone who would never vote for Trump would not criticize Biden voters while being silent on Trump voters ... especially after being specifically asked about Trump.

There is no individual other than Biden or Trump who will be elected.   Who do the smart voters elect?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.50  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    one month ago
Your refusal brings your claim of never voting for Trump into question.   Someone who would never vote for Trump would not criticize Biden voters while being silent on Trump voters

Bingo. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.51  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.47    one month ago

Ever consider they are ineligible to vote?

That is the only explanation to explain it!

That, or they're not even a citizen of US...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.52  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    one month ago
I asked you a profoundly important question and you refuse to answer

That is factually incorrect. In post 2.1.32, you ask, and I answered in post 2.1.33., then you asked AGAIN in post 2.1 37. and I answered in post 2.1.42

It's all right there for you to review.

But don't try to misrepresent the answers or pretend i didn't answer because you didn't like them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.53  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    one month ago
Your refusal brings your claim of never voting for Trump into question

Again, I never claimed i never voted for Trump. I have said I did vote for him but will never again. please stop misrepresenting my comments.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.54  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.50    one month ago

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Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.55  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.53    one month ago

Folks here are prone to bad assumptions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.56  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.53    one month ago
Again, I never claimed i never voted for Trump.

That is what I meant!   That you will never be voting for Trump.   You have claimed to be a "never-Trump" voter (and a "never-Biden" voter).

You have stated that intelligent people will not vote for Biden.   But you explicitly did not include Trump in that statement.

You then stated that intelligent people will vote for someone other than Biden or Trump.

Given the next PotUS is almost certainly going to be Biden or Trump, there is no "someone" else.   It is either Biden or Trump.

So who do the intelligent voters elect?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.57  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.55    one month ago

Assuming is one thing, deliberate misrepresentation another.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.58  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.56    one month ago

Please cease with the same questions which have been answered time and time again.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.59  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.57    one month ago

That is absurd.  You are claiming that I deliberately tried to claim that you never voted for Trump.   If you had never voted for Trump, that would actually improve your position in this discussion.

Your claim of misrepresentation is thus ridiculous.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.60  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.58    one month ago

What is the answer that you claim to have given?:

Who do the intelligent voters elect given the only possible choice of Biden or Trump?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.61  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.60    one month ago
What is the answer that you claim to have given?:

This is getting completely ridiculous now.

I refer you AGAIN to post 2.1.52.

if you ask again I will consider it trolling 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.62  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.59    one month ago

You should have made it clearer in your post, I merely went by what YOU wrote.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.63  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.54    one month ago
Your refusal brings your claim of never voting for Trump into question.   Someone who would never vote for Trump would not criticize Biden voters while being silent on Trump voters

You never criticize Trump, other than a vague claim that you dont like him. Yet you attack Biden every day. The logical conclusion is that you may vote for Trump again if you see it as an either/or (which almost everyone will do). 

You made your bed and now you have to lie in it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.65  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.61    one month ago

An actual answer to the question:

Who do the intelligent voters elect given the only possible choice of Biden or Trump?

is not:

Someone other than Biden or Trump.

That is evasion.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.66  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.63    one month ago

Your erroneous conclusions are not my problem.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.67  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.65    one month ago

I guess that's all you are going to get, whether you accept it or like it isn't my problem.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.68  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.66    one month ago

Maybe not, but your pointless answers are everyone who reads them problem. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.69  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.68    one month ago

Very simple solution, one so easy to see I am surprised you didn't think of it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.70  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.68    one month ago

Only a problem to those that don't accept the answers as given. Interesting that it is always the same few that can't seem to understand what is written and continues to troll even after being asked to stop.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

It is a sad thing that so many "public servants" think that shutting down the government and its services and support to so many is less important than their political agenda.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3    one month ago

We need to remember that no matter which party is in power. 

On the other hand, some are willing to die on the hill of fairness against a stacked deck.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    one month ago

I see no "hill of fairness" and no heroes voting for a government shutdown.

Please elucidate the positive aspects for the general public of a government shutdown

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.1    one month ago

I'm not in favor of government shutdowns. I'm even less in favor of the way congress waits until the very last minute to pass budgets that are full of either pork or more recently, ideological spending on things like subsidies for solar companies and the manufacture of EVs that are not selling. The last few budgets were in the trillions of dollars and those who had to vote on them never even had time to read what was in them. In the meantime, we pass these emergency bills to keep it all going until the next deadline.

How about we stand up against all that?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.3  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    one month ago

By getting of the party line band wagon and electing public servants (regardless of party affiliation or better yet actual independents) - 

We have surrendered government to the crazies on the right and the left and the majority of the America people (who are in the middle) pay the price.

If we continue to elect and support the same clowns on the right and the left then we will continue to reap these same results.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.3    one month ago

I have an in-law who talks the same way.  I take it you might be in favor of the No-Labels party. I believe you already endorsed the idea in one of your blogs. I'm open to that. Where is the independent candidate for the 2024 presidential election?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    one month ago
I'm open to that.

Do you really believe you are in the "middle" ? 

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JBB
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3.1.6  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    one month ago

Liz Cheney could still possibility get into it.

There is also talk of drafting Mitt Romney.

Joe Manchin is supporting Biden, again...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    one month ago

Like you are!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.6    one month ago

Manchin will make an announcement (one way or the other) after super Tuesday.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.9  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    one month ago

I am a No Names or other alternative party supporter in principal, I would have to see the candidate before I decided to support him or her.

I would like to see Joe Manchin or someone else center aisle  (rather than right or left) oriented in the Whote House

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.9    one month ago

How many people do you think would vote for Manchin?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.7    one month ago

I would never claim to be in the middle, although there are social issues I am somewhat conservative on. 

In order to be a true liberal you have to be liberal on economic issues, which I am, in addition to the social issues. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.11    one month ago

I think you are being modest. You are a good deal more than a "true liberal."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    one month ago

Yeah Vic , I'm a "communist"

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Robert in Ohio
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3.1.14  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.10    one month ago

How many people do you think would vote for Manchin?

I have no idea, that is precisely why we have elections.

How many might or might not vote for a third-party candidate should have no bearing on the peoples' right to have that choice to make for themselves.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.14    one month ago

As usual, I can't argue with logic.

You've convinced me.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.16  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.1.6    one month ago

Liz is DOA. Her 15 minutes of usefulness to leftists is over. She is back to being Darth Cheney's daughter.

Romney? Leftists would love that- I can see them dragging out all of the "magic underwear" jokes; "he put the family dog in a cage on top of the car"; and he ran a company that did medical testing on animals, destroyed companies, etc. It would be 2012 all over again.

You have proof Manchin is supporting Brandon? It would be news to him.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.17  Nerm_L  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.3    one month ago
By getting of the party line band wagon and electing public servants (regardless of party affiliation or better yet actual independents) - 

We have surrendered government to the crazies on the right and the left and the majority of the America people (who are in the middle) pay the price.

If we continue to elect and support the same clowns on the right and the left then we will continue to reap these same results.

Isn't this the way minority politics works?  Isn't this why Hamas took hostages?  Isn't this why minority positions hold the US government hostage?

Party politics means elections are decided by slim margins.  The majority of the electorate does not matter because they do tend to follow a conventional wisdom.  It's minority factions that skew elections for a tiny fraction of votes.  That's how minority politics works.  That's who uses hostages to get what they want.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.18  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.17    one month ago

Had you omitted your "Hamas" reference you would have presented a very cogent argument.

That is why we need to more options for the electorate, if we had three, four or more parties with Congressman and Senators at all times, coalitions and compromises would have to be formed and the bet interests of the people would become more of a factor than the best interests of the Democrats or the Republicans.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.19  Nerm_L  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.18    one month ago
That is why we need to more options for the electorate, if we had three, four or more parties with Congressman and Senators at all times, coalitions and compromises would have to be formed and the bet interests of the people would become more of a factor than the best interests of the Democrats or the Republicans.

Allow all voters to vote in all elections, including all primary elections.  Doesn't that give voters more options?  And it would be easier to put in place than mail-in voting.

Stop requiring voters to affiliate with a party to cast a ballot.  It really is that simple.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    one month ago

That is fairly obvious.

 256

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3    one month ago
It is a sad thing that so many "public servants" think that shutting down the government and its services and support to so many is less important than their political agenda.

We're supposed to believe Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies (representing the party of slavery, segregation, and Jim Crow) only act on behalf of the citizens of the United States. 

Yeah, right.  So, tell us, do all lives matter or not?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.2.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2    one month ago

No more than we should believe that the current Republican Party factions dominated by the fringe right and Donald Trump represents the citizens of the U.S.

By the way the lunacy of your descriptors of the Democratic Party is laughable

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.2.1    one month ago
No more than we should believe that the current Republican Party factions dominated by the fringe right and Donald Trump represents the citizens of the U.S.

7 pct of only Republicans chose Donald Trump to represent Iowa in the Presidential election.  We're never going to overcome the party hold on government by ignoring how primary elections are used to rig the game.  Blue faced complaining about the Republican Party won't accomplish a damned thing as long as the primary process remains unchanged.

By the way the lunacy of your descriptors of the Democratic Party is laughable

The oh-so-woke liberal sermon to the country has been that we must accept an honest, clear-eyed, complete telling of history.  The New York Times preached that sermon so it must be so.  And a clear-eyed telling of the real history is that the Democrat Party is the party of slavery, segregation, and Jim Crow.  The Democrat Party caused the American Civil War to protect and expand the institution of chattel slavery in the United States.  The South may try to hide that history and the North may try to ignore that history but that is a true, clear-eyed telling of the history of the Democrat Party.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Unfortunately, the Israeli military has joined the club:

Israelis debated for years about whether women should fight in the military. Now women are serving on the front lines.

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MrFrost
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4.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    one month ago
Now women are serving on the front lines.

Why not? If they want to, let them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @4.1    one month ago

If they can go through the Marine Corps training the same as the men it might be ok.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    one month ago

If they can go through the Marine Corps training the same as the men it might be ok.

I went through Marine Corps boot camp, served with women Marines, they were more than capable. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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Split Personality
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4.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @4.1    one month ago
In early 1941, Lyudmila Pavlichenko was studying history at Kiev University, but within a year, she had become one of the best snipers of all time, credited with 309 confirmed kills, 36 of which were German snipers. Meet the World's Deadliest Female Sniper Who Terrorized Hitler's Nazi Army (businessinsider.com)

Fast forward to 2022, Ukraine,

A feared Ukrainian female sniper the Russians call 'Punisher' says women can be especially deadly on the battlefield because a male soldier might hesitate to take a shot, but a woman 'never' does

Women Won't Hesitate to Shoot, but Men Might: Ukrainian Female Sniper (businessinsider.com)

As evidenced in Mogadishu when Rangers hesitated to shoot at female suicide bombers carrying an infant.

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    one month ago

That is the purpose of boot camp.

9 percent  of men and 18.1 percent of women without waivers failed to finish boot camp. 9.9 percent of men and 16.7 percent of women with felony convictions failed to finish. 10.3 percent of men and 21.5 percent of women with drug use waivers failed. 14.8 percent of men and 28.9 percent of women with waivers for having dependents failed to finish. Marine wash-outs: Often, they’re moms or dads (nbcnews.com)

Don't let the whole picture cloud your preconceptions.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    one month ago

I don't think anyone who survived PI or San Diego gives a damn about your opinion

on boot camp.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.4    one month ago
As evidenced in Mogadishu when Rangers hesitated to shoot at female suicide bombers carrying an infant.

You don't think women wouldn't hesitate to shoot in the exact same situation?

Shooting men is one thing. Many women might even enjoy that. Shooting a woman holding and infant is another.

Nothing like comparing apples to bananas to try and prove a point.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    one month ago
Israelis debated for years about whether women should fight in the military. Now women are serving on the front lines.

If they want to, why not?  The female soldiers are just as motivated as the males, if not more so. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    one month ago

Motivation is one thing; physical strength is another.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    one month ago

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Kavika
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4.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.1    one month ago

Two female paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne graduated from RANGER School. They competed in basic training, advanced infantry, jump school and then Ranger school.

Plus a female paratrooper of the 82nd was awarded the Silver Star when in combat she saved 5 fellow troopers.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    one month ago
Unfortunately, the Israeli military has joined the club: Israelis debated for years about whether women should fight in the military. Now women are serving on the front lines.

I wonder if these women serve because of a phony slogan?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @4.3    one month ago

Which is what?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
4.3.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.3.1    one month ago
Which is what?

Be all that you can be.

Funny how the recruiters don't talk about vets living homeless.  Or the suicide rate among vets.  Or how good Marines make bad cops.

Thank you for your service!  Now fuck off.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @4.3.2    one month ago
Funny how the recruiters don't talk about vets living homeless.  Or the suicide rate among vets. 

And don't forget the neglect that went on in the VA hospitals.


Or how good Marines make bad cops.

As a Marine widow once told me "They perform their duties well, but they become a little twisted!"


Thank you for your service!  Now fuck off.

It is sad.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Nerm_L @4.3.2    one month ago
Funny how the recruiters don't talk about vets living homeless.  Or the suicide rate among vets.

Notice how the politicians ONLY talk about it when it benefits something they want.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
5  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

Why "unfortunately"?

From Bing AI Chat

According to a report by 24/7 Wall St., women serve in the military of 26 countries worldwide, making up more than 10% of military personnel in each of these countries 1. The report also states that many of these countries have opened combat positions to women in the last 20 years, with the vast majority now having no restrictions on women serving in roles that would put them on the front lines 1.

A fact-checking article by Channel 4 News lists more than 20 nations that allow women to fight in combat roles, including Australia, Canada, Denmark, Eritrea, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, North Korea, Poland, Romania, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland 2.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5    one month ago

I'm ok with women in supporting roles. I don't want them fighting on the front line.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one month ago

Well I think you will need to get used to the idea, here in the 21st century.  Women have proved themselves capable of excelling in combat and leadership roles around the world.

I am as old school as they come and this viewpoint was slow to develop, but it is reality

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5.1.1    one month ago
 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one month ago

Perhaps if more men enlisted in the service that wouldn't be a problem. Oh wait, there are numerous women in combat roles, 11th Airborne, 82nd Airborne to name a few.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.3    one month ago
Perhaps if more men enlisted in the service that wouldn't be a problem.

Perhaps if we hadn't smeared them as white supremacists and kicked others out for not getting a vaccine, we wouldn't have such a problem.


Oh wait, there are numerous women in combat roles, 11th Airborne, 82nd Airborne to name a few.

Oh wait, three out of 4 can't meet combat standards!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    one month ago
Perhaps if we hadn't smeared them as white supremacists and kicked others out for not getting a vaccine, we wouldn't have such a problem

Nice try but in reality:

At least 71 percent of Americans between 17 and 24 are now ineligible to serve in the military—some 24 million of the 34 million people in that age range. The strength of the U.S. military depends on a constant flow of qualified volunteers.Sep 2, 2021 Oh wait, three out of 4 can't meet combat standards!

In the Marine Corps, are you aware of what the 11th and 82nd Airborne are? 

Oh, in the Marines 25% qualify do you want to throw them out?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.5    one month ago
In the Marine Corps, are you aware of what the 11th and 82nd Airborne are? 

I cited Marine Corp training. You have heard of that right?


Oh, in the Marines 25% qualify do you want to throw them out?

I don't want them serving on the front lines. 



 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    one month ago
I cited Marine Corp training. You have heard of that right?

I know you cited the Marines and I acknowledged in my comment and yes I've heard of them. Have numerous relatives who are Marines, including my son. Where you in the Marines?

I don't want them serving on the front lines. 

Too bad because they are and  more will be from fighter pilots to air assault to paratroopers.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.7    one month ago
I know you cited the Marines and I acknowledged in my comment and yes I've heard of them. Have numerous relatives who are Marines, including my son. Where you in the Marines?

That's another fail.


Too bad because they are and  more will be from fighter pilots to air assault to paratroopers.

So are the men that we have been emasculating.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    one month ago
That's another fail.

Only in the eyes of those that have no knowledge of the military.

So are the men that we have been emasculating.

Could you give me examples of men that ''we'' have been emasculating? If men allow themselves to be emasculated they don't seem to have the backbone to be in the military. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    one month ago

A female armour company in the IFD's Caracal Battalion were heros on 7 Oct.  They were one of the first unit to role that mourning to the fight.  The left one tank to guard the breech in the fence while racing to a kibbutz.  Between the Hamas that they killed on the road, and those at the kibbutz, they took out around 100.  Their 120mm loaders were strong enough to put the ammo into the breach.  I assume that they can also reset a slipped track.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1.11  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    one month ago
and kicked others out for not getting a vaccine, we wouldn't have such a problem.

Insubordination in the military isn't an option.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @5.1.9    one month ago
Could you give me examples of men that ''we'' have been emasculating? If men allow themselves to be emasculated they don't seem to have the backbone to be in the military.

This reminds me of complaints that certain member judged to be partisans by other members are trying to force their world view on our conservative brethern.

No one forces them to log on

No one forces them to post "storie" or articles.

Certainly no one forces them to argue aimlessly for hours or days at a time.

But they willingly bitch about being victims 

forcibly exposed to opposing opinions.

That is the definition of a snowflake.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.13  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.8    one month ago

The My Pillow MAGA Man Self Emasculation Kit

original

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.9    one month ago
Could you give me examples of men that ''we'' have been emasculating?

Mister-Rogers-and-Daniel-Tiger.jpg

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.10    one month ago

I'm sure there are women who can do the job.

How do you feel about reading about them as casualties or POWs?

This isn't about national security. For the left it is about inclusion.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.15    one month ago

I guess it comes right back to letting individuals make their own decisions about their bodies.

Some women just don't need big government making those decisions for them.

How do you feel about reading about them as casualties or POWs?

The same way I feel about females in police or fire protection.  They know what they signed up for.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6  JBB    one month ago

Then, how is Biden responsible for our deficit?

Congress contols the purse strings in the USA!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @6    one month ago
Then, how is Biden responsible for our deficit?

$Trillion budgets that he proposed.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
6.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    one month ago

$Trillion budgets that he proposed.

Presidents don't spend any money at all.. Not one dime. It all has to be approved by congress. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.1    one month ago

How is he getting away with student loan forgiveness then?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.2    one month ago

Great question, but I doubt any answer is forthcoming.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
6.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.2    one month ago
loan forgiveness

That should be all the hints you need. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.4    one month ago

But GovCo is paying for the forgiveness. That should be all the hints you need.

Canceling federal student loans will cost the government money that comes in part from   taxpayer dollars . The Congressional Budget Office, which crunches the numbers, said President Biden's plan to cancel student loans could have added $400 billion to the government's expenses. Aug 18, 2023

.

“The data released today once again make clear that the Biden-Harris Administration's relentless efforts to fix the broken student loan system are paying off in a big way, with more than 3.6 million borrowers now approved for nearly $132 billion  in loan forgiveness. Dec 6, 2023

.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.5    one month ago

I miss the Bushes, they kept sending everyone thousands of dollars every year because they could...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.6    one month ago
I miss the Bushes, they kept sending everyone thousands of dollars every year because they could...

Do you mean the Bush II temporary tax change that Obama made permanent? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.8  Ronin2  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.1.7    one month ago

Don't forget Obama leveraged that tax cut. He was willing to let it all expire unless the Republicans went along with raising taxes on the upper 10% I believe- in exchange in making them permanent for everyone else.

Republicans should have called his bluff- and laid the blame of them expiring right at Obama's feet. If they were bad for the upper 10%, then they were bad for everyone. Instead they allowed Obama to have his cake and eat it too.

 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.1.7    one month ago

No, the surpluses that were distributed to taxpayers instead of applying them to the National Debt.

The tax cut in 2001 was extended in 2011 hurting the government income while both administrations increased spending for different reasons.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6    one month ago
Then, how is Biden responsible for our deficit? Congress contols the purse strings in the USA!

Okay then, why do you always tout how Traitor Joe lowered the deficit if he doesn't have a thing to do with it?

That is illogical.

Seems you want to give Joe credit for something he didn't do when it is convenient, and now it is convenient to say he doesn't have a thing to do with the deficits.

Maybe you should pick one and stick with it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2    one month ago

Seems you want to give Joe credit for something he didn't do when it is convenient, and now it is convenient to say he doesn't have a thing to do with the deficits.

it’s amazing to watch 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
6.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.1    one month ago

it’s amazing to watch 

Even more amazing? Trump initially complained about the economy after biden took office, now he is saying the strong economy is because of him. It's too stupid to make it up. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.2    one month ago

Besides you deflecting, absolutely no one is talking about Trump here.

Without even bothering to look, I'll bet there is at least one article dealing with Trump.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6    one month ago
Then, how is Biden responsible for our deficit?

They both have a role and responsibly.  Last February, Biden sent a budget request to the Hill that required a large deficit against projected revenue.  Congress then develops the appropriates and sends it back to Biden, he can eith approve it or veto it - Civics 101.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago
The real fight will come over immigration, which House Republicans have tied to aid for Ukraine.

And suddenly supporting Ukraine isn't as important.  I guess doing something for the good of the country they represent is a problem with the Democrats.

A Houthi militia leader has vowed to continue attacking merchant ships in the Red Sea. He may have not heard Biden's warning of "don't."

I'm pretty sure he heard it.  And like Hamas, Russia, Yemen and I ran, said fuck it.  Sure wish we had a POTUS with a backbone.

Republicans are on the verge of impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas. Yesterday Mayorkas decided not to appear before a congressional hearing, most likely because two mothers, who had lost their children, one to fentanyl and the other to a notorious south American gang member who crossed the border, were present.

I had seen something yesterday a mother is filing a $100 million lawsuit against Traitor Joe, Mayorkas and the rest of the misfit band of idiots claiming the death of her child was a direct result of their incompetence and failures.

Family of woman killed by illegal immigrant files $100 million lawsuit against Biden administration

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1  MrFrost  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7    one month ago
Family of woman killed by illegal immigrant files $100 million lawsuit against Biden administration

That will go absolutely nowhere. Illegals killed Americans while trump was in office too, do you think trump should be sued as well? Of course not. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  MrFrost @7.1    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    one month ago

And you point would be what again?  This wasn't filed against the Trump administartion.  It was filed against Traitor Joe's administration.  Please try to keep up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    one month ago

That's where we go for common sense, don't ya know!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.2    one month ago

You are amazing. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.4    one month ago

Do you have anything of importance to say?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.5    one month ago

Take the compliment!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.6    one month ago

I am.  Always knew I infatuated him.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8  Drinker of the Wry    one month ago
In a Brooklyn classroom there appears to be a map of the middle east devoid the state of Israel.

Americans have never been to good at geography - thank you public education.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

T he White House confirmed U.S. airstrikes against Iran-backed Houthi insurgents of Yemen, destroying anti-ship missiles the Houthis were preparing to launch.

Despite this, the Houthis managed to hit a Greek-owned cargo ship in the Red Sea.

The U.S. is not seeking war but expects retaliatory strikes. U.S. and allied naval forces have effectively intercepted Houthi attacks, preventing major casualties .

U.S. Conducts More Airstrikes Against Houthi Anti-Ship Missile Launchers (msn.com)

 
 
 
Ronin2
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9.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    one month ago

So glad Brandon has 3/4 of our fleet bobbing around in the Red Sea; and off the coast of Israel/Lebanon as target practice for Iranian drones (air and sea); and land to ship missiles. The Iranians couldn't ask for a better testing ground.

He is doing just enough to really piss the Iranians, Houthi, and Hezbollah off w/o doing any real damage to their operations. 

Hope everyone enjoys the delay in goods and added costs from international fleets running around the Horn of Africa instead of using the Suez Canal.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @9.1    one month ago
So glad Brandon has 3/4 of our fleet bobbing around in the Red Sea; and off the coast of Israel/Lebanon as target practice for Iranian drones (air and sea); and land to ship missiles.

It's like tying Marciano's hands behind his back before he enters the ring.


He is doing just enough to really piss the Iranians, Houthi, and Hezbollah off w/o doing any real damage to their operations. 

He really expected the word "don't" to be enough.


Hope everyone enjoys the delay in goods and added costs from international fleets running around the Horn of Africa instead of using the Suez Canal.

The globalists elites can afford it. The rest of us can eat cake.

 
 

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