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A woke Veteran's Day 2023

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  5 months ago  •  73 comments

A woke Veteran's Day 2023
“We are all Palestinians,” a man chanted on a megaphone nearby. Others banged on the windows and waved flags as the mob attempted to gain entry to the station as officers and travelers were sheltering inside the building. Officials were forced to close Grand Central Station until the violent mob left and vandalized other buildings, according to reports

Link to Quote: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Smash Doors at NYC Grand Central Station As Cops Locked Inside (shorenewsnetwork.com)


Before I begin my discussion on the radical left and what it has wrought, let me first thank all those who have served for their service. 


In the past few days, we have seen the coming to fruition of multiculturalism, foreign exchange student programs and Marxist theories taught throughout US higher education. In the UK h undreds of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators marched through central London on Saturday after British officials foolishly permitted  the demonstration on a day when Britain honors its war dead.


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This was the nation that was forced to leave the European Union because it has the ability to control its own borders.  Now you know why two radically opposing cultures cannot exist under one nation.



In New York City American flags were torn down as the NYPD was obviously stood down.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MtYWDycmPsw?feature=share

Hundreds of pro-Palestinan protesters snarled Manhattan traffic and curtailed people’s access to Grand Central Terminal as they demonstrated in New York City on Friday night, in part demanding a ceasefire in  the Israel-Hamas war .

Demonstrators, some waving Palestinian flags and holding signs with messages such as “Free Free Palestine” and “End the genocide,” gathered in Columbus Circle in the afternoon before marching to Manhattan’s east side, to the area around Times Square, and eventually to Grand Central.

The demonstrations temporarily closed access to the terminal, one of the city’s largest transportation hubs, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s Metro-North Railroad  said online Friday night .

Pro-Palestinian protesters snarl Manhattan traffic and limit Grand Central access as they call for ceasefire Friday | CNN


Grand Central station was closed for a time, and it was briefly under siege.


That was Veterans Day 2023.

 


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 months ago

The one bright note is that the Tunnels2Towers organization has begun providing housing for homeless veterans.

Happy Veteran's Day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 months ago

On Veterans Day 2023 , Donald Trump said that Barack Obama is the current president and "truthed" out this

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JohnRussell
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1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    5 months ago

Meanwhile, Biden tweeted this

President Biden
@POTUS
Today, we honor the story of our veterans – the story of our nation at its best. On Veterans Day, let’s recommit to fulfilling our one sacred obligation as a nation: to prepare those we send into harm’s way and care for them and their families when they come home.
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 months ago

What Trump said is the literal truth and cannot be disproven. No better example is the virulent hatred and protest against Jews and Israel currently going on here. It's the left wingers that are apologists for and supporters of Hamas' Naziism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    5 months ago

He is a mad man. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    5 months ago

I disagree. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    5 months ago
What Trump said is the literal truth and cannot be disproven.

It is fear-mongering designed to appeal to the naivety and emotions of his base.

In a nation of 333 million people there will always be some who meet pretty much any characterization.   It is ironic that the most prominent demagogue who himself attempted for the only time in history to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying and incitement is promising (again) to eliminate those who are a threat to our nation.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    5 months ago

He's fucking nuts as are the majority of the gqp and his supporters/enablers/defendersoftheindefensile/cult.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    5 months ago

How are you going to stop him? Right now, it's looking more and more he will be elected again. 

Biden's approval is pretty dismal and not likely to improve.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.4    5 months ago

What a shocker!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    5 months ago

The revenge and retribution tour/campaign of the former 'president' scumbag continues.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.10  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    5 months ago

Trump proves once again that he is nothing but a lying POS that has no respect for America and he nor anyone in his family has ever served a day in the military. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    5 months ago
He's fucking nuts as are the majority of the gqp and his supporters/enablers/defendersoftheindefensile/cult.

I think of how much damage they are doing to the younger generations today . They are growing up thinking crazy fools in a political cult is normal. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.7    5 months ago
How are you going to stop him?

Are you asking how I, an individual, am going to stop Trump from being elected?

I cannot stop him by myself.   All I can do is contribute to his opponent's campaigns and use my vote in the most effective way to nullify your vote (since you have announced in this forum that you plan to vote for this miserable piece of shit).

The GOP could stop Trump by nominating someone else.   This starts with GOP members like yourself NOT supporting Trump.   But that is not what is taking place.   The nutcase MAGA minority is cohesive enough to give Trump momentum and much of the remaining part of the GOP is acquiescing to that momentum.   It is pathetic and sad watching the GOP continue to lose itself with its irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic support of Trump.    Especially when they have Haley right there as a fine potential nominee.

Biden's approval is pretty dismal and not likely to improve.

The current biggest disappointment of the Ds is their inability to convince Biden to step aside and allow a better suited candidate to be their nominee.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.13  sandy-2021492  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    5 months ago

Remember this Veteran's Day?

PARIS, France — US President Donald Trump canceled a planned visit Saturday to a cemetery for Americans killed in World War I, the White House citing bad weather that grounded his helicopter. The decision drew sharp criticism from White House opponents and others.

...

Ben Rhodes, who was deputy national security adviser for President Barack Obama, accused Trump of “blowing off honoring American servicemen who died for us” and said the White House should have had a fallback option.

David Frum, once a speechwriter for President George W. Bush, tweeted that he thought it was “incredible” that a president would travel to France for a World War I ceremony and not pay respects to the US servicemen who died in France during World War I.

Trump's tweet is full of fearmongering and fake patriotism.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.11    5 months ago

That's why they're so frightened of Generation X and Taylor Swift and a lot of her fans, they don't want the rights to their own bodies/reproductive health decided by a bunch of old white Dicks! 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.13    5 months ago

A few months ago John Kelly verified the cemetery story.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.11    5 months ago
I think of how much damage they are doing to the younger generations today .

Do you think maybe Trump is the reason why so many of our youth seems so misguided and supporting Palestinians, Hamas, and cease-fires which Hamas will break again, or why they are calling Biden Genocide Joe?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    5 months ago

Biden takes marching orders from Obama. All his appointees are from the Obama crowd.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 months ago

How about protecting them on the battlefield?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.5    5 months ago

Oh, bullshit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.12    5 months ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.13    5 months ago

From your article:

The Secret Service determines when it’s safe to fly Marine One, the president’s helicopter. Paris was covered in clouds with drizzling rain through most of Saturday.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.19    5 months ago

Your claim with no supporting argument is dismissed.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.23  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.21    5 months ago

You bought the pathetic excuse, I see.  Macron and Merkel managed to make it by car.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.20    5 months ago

This is a pure non-sequitur having nothing whatsoever to do with what I posted.

Basically you are just spamming.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.22    5 months ago

The prosecution of a former President for something that nobody gets prosecuted for is obvious bad faith. 

You support that as well as any means to stop his candidacy,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.23    5 months ago

It is from the article you posted.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.1.27  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.26    5 months ago

And?

The article mentioned that other world leaders managed to get there.  But your hero was scared of a little rain.  What a tough guy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.25    5 months ago
The prosecution of a former President for something that nobody gets prosecuted for is obvious bad faith. 

I am not going to defend the AG since clearly she is politically motivated.   I care about the cases brought against Trump as PotUS and have much less concern about those against private citizen Trump.   

You support that as well as any means to stop his candidacy,

That is a lie.   I do not support false prosecution to prevent candidacy.    I do support legally removing Trump from eligibility as a candidate.  For example, if he can be legally removed by the 14th amendment then I am all for that.   I am not in favor of unlawful actions even if they would remove Trump.   

I do not support prosecuting Trump or anyone else for wrongdoing that they did not commit.

I support prosecuting Trump and everyone else for wrongdoing they did commit.

Further, Vic, you know as well as everyone else that these prosecutions are helping Trump politically.   So figure out what argument you want to go with because you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.24    5 months ago
That is a lie.   I do not support  false  prosecution to prevent candidacy.   



Who is the 'they' who will not allow Trump to win.

I would like to applaud them.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.30  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.29    5 months ago

Your comment was entirely vague and I responded in the abstract.    And I asked you who 'they' is and you never responded.

Now you insert the AG lawsuit specifically and pretend that I answered to that specificity.

Absolutely fucking dishonest.   If you do not have an argument, do not resort to dishonesty.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.31  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.30    5 months ago
Absolutely fucking dishonest. 

Those were your words.  You own them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.32  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.27    5 months ago

Your article clearly pointed out what US procedure was.

Shall we go around again?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.33  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.31    5 months ago

My words followed by you inserting specifics after the fact that I did not agree to.

That is as dishonest as it gets.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.25    5 months ago

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sandy-2021492
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1.1.35  sandy-2021492  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.32    5 months ago

No, it didn't.  It pointed out procedure regarding helicopter travel.  A helicopter was not necessary to get there, as proven by the fact that other world leaders showed more respect to our fallen troops than Trump did.  Of course, that's entirely in keeping with his lack of character.  He called fallen soldiers "losers".

A new report details multiple instances of President Donald Trump making disparaging remarks about members of the U.S. military who have been captured or killed, including referring to the American war dead at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France in 2018 as “losers” and “suckers.”

...

Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss it publicly.
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In another conversation on the trip, The Atlantic said, Trump referred to the 1,800 Marines who died in the World War I battle of Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

But sure, spread the fearmongering, hatemongering, and false patriotism in his words. And yeah, we'll go around again.  Trump's best move on a holiday meant to remember people he denigrates would be to keep his mouth shut and his fingers off of his phone.  But he's too stupid and nasty to do that, and you support his stupidity and nastiness.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.36  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 months ago
Meanwhile, Biden tweeted this

You mean Biden's media team tweeted that.

Which is fine.  He listens to them.  Or at least he doesn't interfere with them. 

Trump's phone should be equipped with a feature that tazes him every time he tries to open Twitter.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.24    5 months ago

Ya!  No doubt about that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.38  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.28    5 months ago

Truth!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.35    5 months ago

'stupid and nasty' - that, in a nutshell, is the former 'president'

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.40  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.17    5 months ago
Biden takes marching orders from Obama.

Trump takes marching orders from Putin. At least Obama is an American. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.41  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.18    5 months ago

How about protecting them on the battlefield?

I recall Putin putting out bounties on American soldiers and trump literally did nothing. So what was that you were saying?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.42  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.18    5 months ago
How about protecting them on the battlefield?

how about approving their promotions [removed]  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.41    5 months ago

What do you think an appropriate response to be?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.44  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.41    5 months ago

You recall bullshit then.................

.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.45  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 months ago

Biden has never tweeted anything in his life.

His handlers control the social media for him.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.46  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.7    5 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.47  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.41    5 months ago
I recall Putin putting out bounties on American soldiers and trump literally did nothing.

My deployments were all under Obama.  Those bounties existed then.  But don't let facts get in the way.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 months ago
Happy Veteran's Day.

to all veterans, except those that still support trump after 1/6/21 to today. they can fuck off and do the US a favor...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    5 months ago

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My name is Joe Biden and I do everything Barrack Obama tells me to do. He is the real president.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago

... seeing that you believe any of that is all I need to know about you and anyone that votes that ridiculous comment up.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago
My name is Joe Biden and I do everything Barrack Obama tells me to do. He is the real president.

Yet another stupid conspiracy theory.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago

An inconvenient truth which won't be well-received.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.4    5 months ago

Jonathan Karl is pretending that it is "confusion" on the part of Trump.

They can't stop lying to us.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago

Just because some raving nutjob created a meme does not mean you should post it.

"Made men to give a birth"???   WTF??

BTW...

Extremists on both ends were already psychotic before he got there.

Lobbyists and politicians were already rich.

The country was already divided.  

Everybody who wanted a crack pipe already had one.

Americans were already the laughing stock of the world.... which all the Americans who travel already knew.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago

Where did you find that ignorant nonsense garbage meme?  Stupidest bullshit I've seen in quite some time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    5 months ago

It's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.6    5 months ago
"Made men to give a birth"???   WTF??

The poor use of English in that meme leads me to wonder if Vic is helping to spread propaganda created by somebody outside of our borders.  Somebody is Russia is probably having a good laugh.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.9    5 months ago

I wondered about that phrase specifically and the rest was just nonsense ignorant bullshit and you have to wonder why anyone would spread such ignorance and support such ignorance.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    5 months ago

P.S. It certainly is hilarious and not to be taken seriously.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.12  Jack_TX  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.2.9    5 months ago
The poor use of English in that meme leads me to wonder if Vic is helping to spread propaganda created by somebody outside of our borders.  Somebody is Russia is probably having a good laugh.

I'm not sure I'd go that far.  It's only one word.  It's probably just an edit that somebody forgot to finish. 

That said, most of it is stupid and incorrect.  [deleted]

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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1.2.13  sandy-2021492  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.12    5 months ago

They also switch back and forth between using articles and not using them.  "Created the highest inflation in 40 years", but also "Gave you free crack pipe".

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.14  JBB  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.12    5 months ago

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JBB
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1.2.15  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 months ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.15    5 months ago

So, when did Putin tell you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.14    5 months ago

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charger 383
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1.2.18  charger 383  replied to  devangelical @1.2    5 months ago

Comment 1.2 was responded to to by seeder so it stays, charger

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  Nerm_L    5 months ago

Slava Palestini.  Why are people so surprised what is happening?  When will Mahmoud Abbas address Congress?  When will the lying politicians pledge allegiance to the Palestinian flag?  Israel has been a long standing ally of the United States which why they are the enemy.  Maybe the New York Times can run a 1967 Project to tell us the only truth that matters to liberal haters of the United States.

The US is now trapped in two quagmires and Biden is preparing for a third.  It's boom times for neoliberal war profiteering.  Cheer the piggies at the public trough.

Our troops volunteered to be deployed to shitholes around the world.  And we're supposed to empathize with them for being shit on?  What the hell did people think was going to happen?  You're not fighting for the United States because 1619 proves the United States is not worth fighting for.  The New York Times has explained in exquisite detail that the United States has been on the wrong side of every issue.  You volunteered to fight and put money in someone else's pocket.  What really matters is making the rich richer and scapegoating people on the street. 

Slava Ukraini.  Slava Palestini.  Sign up for another tour.  Thank you for your service.  Now help recruit the next generation of suckers.  Wall Street is depending upon you the make the sacrifice for their benefit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Nerm_L @2    5 months ago

The latest line they are all using is that we cannot abandon our friends.

Ngo Dinh Diem and the Shah of Iran say wha???
 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 months ago
Ngo Dinh Diem and the Shah of Iran say wha???

OMG, now how ridiculous can you get? Diem was as crooked as a dog's hind leg and an autocrat who refused to have elections. He was not supported by the majority of South Vietnamese.

Have you not heard of the Buddhist protests? Kennedy warned Diem of the need for major reforms in the government but Diem ignored the warning and declared martial law and his troops raided the Buddhist group behind the protests, soon after South Vietnamese officers contacted the US government and wanted to know what our response would be to a coup. A few months later the government was overthrown and Diem was assassinated.

The CIA and the British overthrew the rightful leader of Iran and installed the Shah who was nothing but a dictator. His secret police SAVAK protected the regime of the Shah arreting, torturing and exceuting many dissidents all the while being protected by the US. After he was run out of Iran the US allowed him into the US where he died.

We do not need friends like this.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    5 months ago

"We Jews have a secret weapon, we have no place else to go."

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Golda Meir to then Senator Joe
Biden , in 1973.


Arsen Ostrovsky (@Ostrov_A) / X (twitter.com)

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4  Jack_TX    5 months ago
This was the nation that was forced to leave the European Union because it has the ability to control its own borders.

This is just not actually true.

In the UK hundreds of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators marched through central London on Saturday after British officials foolishly permitted  the demonstration on a day when Britain honors its war dead.

There wasn't anything foolish about it.  Most of those war dead lost their lives protecting the right to protest, among others.

I'm on record repeatedly stating my belief that protests are stupid, and I'll reiterate that here.  But I think they should be allowed, and Armistice Day is not sufficient reason to revoke the right.

 
 

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