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Hillary Clinton gives 'best' analysis of Israel-Hamas conflict so far

  

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Via:  krishna  •  7 months ago  •  19 comments

By:   Hilary Clinton

Hillary Clinton gives 'best' analysis of Israel-Hamas conflict so far
There was a ceasefire on October 6th but it not hold because Hamas chose to break it

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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rejected calls for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war on " The View " Wednesday, instead throwing her support behind "humanitarian pauses." 

Hillary Clinton explains her recent comments on the Israel-Hamas war, where she said that those "calling for a ceasefire do not understand Hamas,"

"Remember, there was a ceasefire on Oct. 6 that Hamas broke by their barbaric assault on peaceful civilians and their kidnapping, their killing, their beheading, their terrible, inhumane savagery," Clinton said. 

"It did not hold because Hamas chose to break it," she added.


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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    7 months ago

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rejected calls for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war on "   The View  " Wednesday, instead throwing her support behind "humanitarian pauses." 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    7 months ago

Hillary Clinton explains her recent comments on the Israel-Hamas war, where she said that those "calling for a ceasefire do not understand Hamas,"

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  seeder  Krishna    7 months ago

"Remember, there was a ceasefire on Oct. 6 that Hamas broke by their barbaric assault on peaceful civilians and their kidnapping, their killing, their beheading, their terrible, inhumane savagery," Clinton said. 

"It did not hold because Hamas chose to break it," she added.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3    7 months ago

And Hamas will CONTINUE to break ceasefires and will continue military attacks, rockets, missiles and incendiary balloons and kites forever, which is why Israel has NO CHOICE but to end any possibility of Hamas and Islamic Jihad continuing.  Unfortunately, because of Hamas' technique of dressing like civilians, hiding among civilians, using them as human shields, using facilities such as hospitals, schools, mosques and UN properties to hide themselves, their weapons and command centres, all of which is contrary to international law makes it virtually impossible for Israel to do what MUST be done without their being civilian casualties.  Do the bleeding hearts of the world have anything to say about what Hamas did on Oct 7, or do they have anything to say about how Hamas protects itself from retaliation, or do they have anything to say about the Gazan civilians dancing with joy and passing around candy and treats on 9/11 and on Oct 7?  Very little, if anything, but blame Israel for being forced to cause civilian deaths and injuries when it has been praised for doing more than any nation in history has ever done to prevent civilian deaths.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4  Thrawn 31    7 months ago

She is absolutely right, there can be no peace with Hamas. Hamas doesn’t want peace. You cannot make peace with a person or group who wants to kill you for the crime of merely existing.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4    7 months ago

She is absolutely right, there can be no peace with Hamas. Hamas doesn’t want peace. You cannot make peace with a person or group who wants to kill you for the crime of merely existing.

Exactly!

Here's how Golda Meir put it:

You cannot negotiate peace with somebody who has come to kill you.

I just googled to find a few more of her quotes:

By the way, did you ever realize that if Moses would have turned right instead of left, we'd have had the oil, the Arabs would have had the sand?

(Actually I've heard that mis-quoted as: "If Moses would have turned right instead of left, we'd have had the oil, the Arabs would have had the grapefruits ").

More:

Let me tell you something that we Israelis have against Moses. He took us 40 years through the desert in order to bring us to the one spot in the Middle East that has no oil!

How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to.

There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed.

America is a great country. It has many shortcomings, many social inequalities, and it's tragic that the problem of the blacks wasn't solved fifty or even a hundred years ago, but it's still a great country, a country full of opportunities, of freedom! Does it seem nothing to you to be able to say what you like, even against the government, the Establishment?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5  Drinker of the Wry    7 months ago

Hillary got it right and I applaud her in standing up and speaking out against the Dem tide on this issue.  Where are the international demands on Hamas?

Besides the immediate fighting there, until the leadership on the ground changes, there will be no chance of a lasting peace.  Netanyahu has never been interested in a peace process, perhaps because he never saw a negotiating partner.  Hamas is clearly not and the blolated, corrupt PA is mostly interested in holding onto the limited power they have and there privileged lifestyle. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5    7 months ago
Netanyahu has never been interested in a peace process,

IMO, while a lot of the blame for the current situation goes to Hamas of course,...but Netanyaho is part of the current problem. He should be removed from office, but that's highly unlikely now that they're involved in an ongoing "shooting war"

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5    7 months ago
Besides the immediate fighting there, until the leadership on the ground changes, there will be no chance of a lasting peace.

Exactly!

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.2    7 months ago
Besides the immediate fighting there, until the leadership on the ground changes, there will be no chance of a lasting peace.
Exactly!

Hamas and other Palestinians keep saying that what they want is a "Palestinian state". But there have been several opportunities to have one but they've turned them down.

So what's become obvious over the years is that arguing that they want a state is a ploy, in an attempt to gain sympathy. Because is obvious that what they really want is to exterminate the Jews! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @5.2.1    7 months ago

Yes, Krishna, but the bleeding hearts of the world don't believe that Israel has tried to give them that and they have refused.  Why would they accept anyway?  Life is so much easier being spoonfed like an infant by the unique UNRWA organization devoted to the "Palestinians" than anything else.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5    7 months ago
"Where are the international demands on Hamas?"

What the world is NOT demanding is that Hamas and Islamic Jihad surrender, which makes sense if they do for these reasons:

1.  It would end the bloodshed and release the hostages.

2.  They would not be killed.  Israel does not have capital punishment.  They would be imprisoned, have a bed to sleep in, 3 decent halal meals a day (never heard a complaint about them).

3.  They would be given an opportunity to study to achieve a higher academic level or a useful trade to earn a living when they are eventually released.

But all of that is useless to even suggest, because they know they won't get to deflower 72 virgins.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6  Texan1211    7 months ago

Hillary can see it.

Should be interesting to see how many of the young protesters supporting Palestinians, Hamas, and cease-fires will turn out for "Genocide Joe".

Let's see if the protesters have any guts, smarts, and integrity.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @6    7 months ago
Should be interesting to see how many of the young protesters supporting Palestinians, Hamas, and cease-fires will turn out for "Genocide Joe".

The youngest cohort (I believe they're called "GenZ") will have an impact on the eklection. Currently most of them are extrmely "Anti-Israel".

Why?

Because they spend much more of their time online, on Social Media" And its much easier to find misleading information online than it was for previous generations.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @6.1    7 months ago

The impact may just be them not voting.

How could they in good conscience vote for Genocide Joe?

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.1    7 months ago
The impact may just be them not voting.

Good point. 

Its not necessary that they would have to vote for some candidate other than Biden to throw the presidential  election over to the Republicans. 

In a close election all they have to do is not vote for Biden but rather vote for a third party candidate (to deny Biden their votes).

Or...just stay home on election day.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7  seeder  Krishna    7 months ago

In case anyone missed it-- here's what she said about a ceasefire:

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rejected calls for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war on "  The View  " Wednesday, instead throwing her support behind "humanitarian pauses." 

Hillary Clinton explains her recent comments on the Israel-Hamas war, where she said that those "calling for a ceasefire do not understand Hamas,"

"Remember, there was a ceasefire on Oct. 6 that Hamas broke by their barbaric assault on peaceful civilians and their kidnapping, their killing, their beheading, their terrible, inhumane savagery," Clinton said. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @7    7 months ago

I like her opinion.  Maybe she should run for POTUS again.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8  Buzz of the Orient    7 months ago

BREAKING NEWS:  I just watched the news a few hours ago on TV to see that America has stabbed Israel in the back by abstaining from a UN Security Council resolution that passed demanding extended pauses.  A victory for Hamas. 

 
 

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