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Trump election case gag order violates Constitution, ACLU says

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  7 months ago  •  9 comments

By:   Kevin Breuninger (CNBC)

Trump election case gag order violates Constitution, ACLU says
The ACLU, a frequent critic of Trump, said that the gag order in special counsel Jack Smith's election interference case runs afoul of the First Amendment.

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The American Civil Liberties Union argued Wednesday that the gag order slapped on former President Donald Trump in his federal election interference case violates the U.S. Constitution.

The ACLU, a frequent and vocal critic of Trump that applauded his criminal indictment in the federal case in Washington, D.C., said that the restrictions placed on his speech run afoul of the First Amendment.

"No modern-day president did more damage to civil liberties and civil rights than President Trump," said the group's executive director, Anthony Romero, in a press release.

"But if we allow his free speech rights to be abridged, we know that other unpopular voices — even ones we agree with — will also be silenced," Romero said.

"As much as we disagreed with Donald Trump's policies, everyone is entitled to the same First Amendment protection against gag orders that are too broad and too vague," he said.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan imposed a partial gag order on Trump in mid-October, after special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutors argued that the ex-president's bellicose statements about the case risked prejudicing the trial.

Trump has repeatedly fulminated against the judge, the prosecutors, the jury pool and potential witnesses in the case, which accuses him of illegally conspiring to overturn his 2020 election loss to President Joe Biden. Trump has pleaded not guilty.

Chutkan's order bars Trump and other parties in the case from making public statements about Smith, the defense counsel, members of the court or any of their staffers.

They are also prohibited from targeting "any reasonably foreseeable witness or the substance of their testimony."

In an 18-page court filing, the ACLU argued that Chutkan's order is too vague, too broad and not sufficiently justified.

Trump has made many "patently false" statements that have "caused great harm to countless individuals," the group wrote. But he nevertheless "retains a First Amendment right to speak, and the rest of us retain a right to hear what he has to say."

Any restraint on Trump's speech must be "precisely defined and narrowly tailored," the ACLU wrote, arguing that Chutkan's order "fails that test."

For example, Chutkan's prohibition on making public statements that "target" certain individuals is "unconstitutionally vague," the ACLU wrote.

"Reading the order, Defendant cannot possibly know what he is permitted to say, and what he is not," the group wrote.

Chutkan's three-page order on Oct. 17 is "overbroad and underexplained," the ACLU added.

The group's filing in U.S. District Court in Washington, known as an amici curiae or "friend of the court" brief, urges Chutkan to reevaluate her order.

Trump has appealed Chutkan's gag order to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Chutkan last week put her gag order on pause as she considers a request from Trump's attorneys for a stay pending the appeal.

Following that pause, Trump has resumed making public statements attacking Smith and others arguably covered by the order.

Trump was hit with a separate gag order by the judge presiding over his civil fraud trial in New York. That judge, Arthur Engoron of Manhattan Supreme Court, banned the parties from making public statements about his staff after Trump sent a Truth Social post attacking his law clerk.

Engoron last week found that Trump violated that gag order, fining him $5,000 and threatening more severe sanctions, including imprisonment, if the violations continue.

A lawyer for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the ACLU's filing.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    7 months ago

The ACLU is back to defending Civil Rights.

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 months ago

You will be back to pounding them sooner than later.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1    7 months ago

Unless they completely return to their mission.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 months ago
They are also prohibited from targeting "any reasonably foreseeable witness or the substance of their testimony."

So is threatening a witness or a juror permitted by The First Amendment?  If so, trying any criminal could be a waste of time.  IMO an accused even CONTACTING a witness could threaten them.  Let's suppose you were a witness or a juror in a trial where the criminal about to stand trial happens to say to you "I know where you live, and where your children go to school."  In normal circumstances that might well be protected speech, but if a man up for murder said it to you.....well, what do YOU think?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    7 months ago

The way to answer all those questions is to substitute Barack Obama for Donald Trump.

Maybe then we'll have a single standard of justice.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    7 months ago

Nice deflection.  LOL

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2.2    7 months ago

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Greg Jones
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1.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    7 months ago

"As much as we disagreed with Donald Trump's policies, everyone is entitled to the same First Amendment protection against gag orders that are too broad and too vague," he said.

What specific threats to any potential juror or witness has Trump made?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.4    7 months ago

Do you have trouble comprehending that my comment was hypothetical, not accusatory?  Your comment is not only oversensitive it's quite telling as well. 

 
 

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