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'They Want Our People Dead': Jewish Student Bursts Into Tears As Pro-Hamas Demonstration Takes Place On Campus

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  8 months ago  •  83 comments

By:   dailycaller

'They Want Our People Dead': Jewish Student Bursts Into Tears As Pro-Hamas Demonstration Takes Place On Campus
Protestors from both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict gathered at the University of Washington (UW) campus in Seattle on Thursday.

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Protestors from both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict gathered at the University of Washington (UW) campus in Seattle on Thursday.

A video shows Jewish students at the campus in tears at the protest.

"They want our people dead, they want us killed," a student cried, according to footage shared by analyst Natasha Mozgovaya. "Please end it, please."


#Jewish students at @UW campus witnessing pro-#Palestinian rally break down. "They want us dead, how you are allowing this?" #Hamas#Gazapic.twitter.com/0eQqCREajZ
— Natasha Mozgovaya (@mozgovaya) October 12, 2023

Demonstrators on the pro-Palestine side can be heard chanting, "There is only one solution — Intifada revolution."


HAPPENING NOW: Massive pro-Palestine rally happening at the University of Washington's Red Square. Handful of pro-Israel demonstrators have arrived and now confronting the crowd. They want students to condemn Hamas and call them terrorists. ANTIFA militants are also here. It is… pic.twitter.com/v3UmBLFpsl
— Jonathan Choe Journalist (Seattle) (@choeshow) October 12, 2023

The Students United for Palestinian Equality and Return at the UW campus shared a flyer on their Instagram page about the event taking place, but it has since been deleted. 


I got an idea:@UW students, faculty, & alumni are rallying tomorrow in support of barbarians

Let's get the names of everyone who attends and organizes this event, post them, and tell their employers they have people who support monsters.

Time to play by their rules pic.twitter.com/uGx1ervE2f

— Ari Hoffman (@thehoffather) October 12, 2023

"Labeling every Palestinian as Hamas and calling every Palestinian a terrorist … This is not helping the cause," a pro-Palestinian protestor told KIRO Newsradio, according to MyNorthwest. "We've been struggling for 75 years and nobody talks about this."

"This is a disgrace. They are killing women, children, raping our girls. They took our babies into Gaza," a pro-Israel protester told the outlet. "The fact that people aren't seeing it for what it is is disgusting."

Ozi Goldstein, who is Jewish and pro-Palestinian, explained he doesn't support the actions of Hamas, but instead supports the Palestinian people as a whole, per the outlet.

"Fundamentally, this is an oppressed people rising up against occupation," he said.

Ana Mari Cauce, the university's president, issued a statement on Monday regarding the conflict.

"The terror, loss of life and outbreak of war in Israel and Gaza over the weekend, which began with the reprehensible attacks by Hamas, is devastating to all of us, and my heart is with every member of our community who has ties to or loved ones in this deeply troubled region," Cauce wrote.

"And at a time when we have seen increased acts of antisemitism and anti-Muslim and anti-Arab violence, I want to reiterate that we must not allow our opinions, grief or anger about the conflict to spill over into abusive behavior or harassment of anyone — civility remains a core value of our academic community," Cauce added.

The Students United for Palestinian Equality and Return issued a response rejecting and condemning the president's statement in an Instagram post.

"This statement sends the message to all racially oppressed and exploited students and workers in the UW community: that The University of Washington supports Zionist war crimes and is opposed to the Palestinian people's just demand for an end to over 75 years of ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, and genocide."


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago



Higher education via the left.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.1  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago

As one who was beaten and gassed in the 60s for marching against the illegal and immoral police action in Vietnam, can't say I can fault any protestors. 

Seems many folk have a rational point these days (or not)

Thankfully, I am way too old to march on the lines anymore.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    8 months ago

Many of the pro Palestine protesters at colleges probably have no clue about the history of the conflict and are just pro Palatine because the US government is pro Israel.  But that is still no reason to support Hamas killing innocent people, there is no justification for that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    8 months ago

Many of the pro-Palestinian protestors at US colleges are in fact Palestinians. There is no limit as to how many foreign students a college can bring in. American Jewish students seem to be terrorized. Do you really think the Biden administration is pro-Israel?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    8 months ago
"Do you really think the Biden administration is pro-Israel?"

Not much evidence to support that. The stench of Obama's anti-Israel policies still clings to the Democrats

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    8 months ago

Obama never got over the election of Netanyahu.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    8 months ago

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Sparty On
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2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    8 months ago

Lol …. And then there was:

256

Good times for my friends on the left

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.5  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.4    8 months ago

I hear you. Your guy lost to Biden and is going to jail...

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.1.6  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    8 months ago

       "There is no limit as to how many foreign students a college can bring in"

That policy should be changed

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.6    8 months ago

Agreed.

Along with the federal government giving them money and letting them set the price of tuition.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @2.1.5    8 months ago

Seven years later, my friends on the left are still sky screaming and whining like little bitches about he who lives rent free in their heads ….. hilarious.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    8 months ago

I agree the protests are organized by Palestinians.  I also think many, if not most of the protesters are going along for the ride.

For this particular war, at this particular time, Joe is doing OK as far as support for Israel.  That will change as soon as CNN and MSNBC start airing HAMAS manufactured atrocities that they will blame on the IDF.  At that point Joe will pivot to negotiation with the terrorists.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.8    8 months ago

It is funny that they know more about Trump than I would ever want to.  I am expecting a bombshell article that he uses too much toilet paper when he takes a shit so he must be anti environment.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.9    8 months ago

Joe has already called for Israel to delay the offensive into Gaza.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    8 months ago

Could be because Hamas, wanting to get more Gazans killed in order to raise world sympathy, has blocked the roads to the south.  They really don't give a shit how many Gazans die.  I don't understand why the Gazans are so ignorant as to allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder rather than coming to the realization that it is their own Hamas government that is murdering them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.12    8 months ago
I don't understand why the Gazans are so ignorant as to allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder rather than coming to the realization that it is their own Hamas government that is murdering them. 

They were taught as children to die for the cause. That is why.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    8 months ago

Putting what Joe  wants aside it seems Israel realizes that moving a million people in 24 hours will not happen.  If it doesn't compromise their solution then I see no issue in them waiting as long as they can see many Palestinians trying to heed their call. I will defer to whatever decision they make.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    8 months ago

Are you surprised …..

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.16  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    8 months ago

And the cause they were taught was to eradicate Israel and the Jews.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.16    8 months ago

That is correct.

 
 
 
Michael C.
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2.1.18  Michael C.  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    8 months ago
Joe has already called for Israel to delay the offensive into Gaza.

Well as a supporter of Israel I think that's actually a good idea. As soon as they invade there will be a yuge number of Israeli casualties. So its better to "soften the up" first. (I believe they already "invaded Gaza-- but are staying in a very narrow strip along the inside of the border fence.

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.1.19  charger 383  replied to  Michael C. @2.1.18    8 months ago

Let the blockade start hurting then and keep up artillery and rocket fire for a while longer. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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2.2  Michael C.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    8 months ago
Many of the pro Palestine protesters at colleges probably have no clue about the history of the conflict

True.

And what I find totally bizarre is the group "Queers for Palestine". They should treated to a free trip to Gaza-- and watch what happens next!

(Actually that's true of just about any Arab country...)

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.3  cjcold  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    8 months ago

Many are pro Palestinian and anti Hammas.

Knew a lady who was Mossad but who hated Netanyahu.

The politics are much more confusing than they might appear.

The Middle East is far from being all black or white.

Just like America is not all red or blue.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    8 months ago

Useful idiots …. Nothing more.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @3    8 months ago

Useful idiots 

“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!” chant the useful idiots at elite institutions and parades in the West. Who are these people? Atheists who support theocratic lunatics, democrats who endorse medieval tyrants, feminists who defend misogynists who parade with the desecrated corpses of women, gays who defend maniacs who would joyfully hang them or toss them off the roof of a tall building. They talk of a secular, democratic and socialist Palestine. As George Orwell observed: “One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.” But the world has now seen what “from the river to the sea” actually means. It is nothing less than a remake of the Nazi Einsatzgruppen .



 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @3    8 months ago

Idiots for sure. Useful, hardly.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

The places that fire professors because criticizing affirmative action makes people feel unsafe sure don't seem to have a problem with calls for genocide. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 months ago

Have any of them read the Hamas charter?


The  Hamas Covenant  or  Hamas Charter , formally known in English as the  Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement , was originally issued on 18 August 1988 and outlines the founding identity, stand, and aims of  Hamas  (the Islamic Resistance Movement). [1]  A new charter was issued by Hamas leader  Khaled Mashal  on 1 May 2017 in  Doha . [2]

The original Charter identified Hamas as the  Muslim Brotherhood  in Palestine and declares its members to be  Muslims  who "fear  God  and raise the banner of  Jihad  in the face of the oppressors." The charter states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an  Islamic state  in Palestine, in place of  Israel  and the  Palestinian Territories , [3]  and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel. [4] [5]  It emphasizes the importance of jihad, stating in article 13, "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." [6]  The charter also states that Hamas is humanistic, and tolerant of other religions as long as they "stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region". [7]  The Charter adds that "renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion [of Islam]". [1]  The original charter was criticized for its violent language against all Jews, which some commentators characterized as  incitement to genocide . [8] [9]


Hamas Charter - Wikipedia

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    8 months ago

Hamas must be wiped from the face of the earth.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    8 months ago

And yet, despite what they profess themselves to be, some want to pretend Hamas is representing the best interests of Palestinians.

Just a bunch of religious THUGS is what Hamas is, and there will NEVER be a solution while Hamas exists.

You can't and shouldn't even try to negotiate with terrorists.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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4.1.3  Drakkonis  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    8 months ago
Just a bunch of religious THUGS is what Hamas is, and there will NEVER be a solution while Hamas exists.

Well, there is. The one you mentioned. Palestinians kicking out Hamas. That's the only workable solution. Just one that is probably the least likely to happen. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Drakkonis @4.1.3    8 months ago

Yeah, an actual pro-Palestinian demonstration would be attacking hamas.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.5  charger 383  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    8 months ago

The collateral damage will be worth getting rid of hamas in the long run

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    8 months ago
some want to pretend Hamas is representing the best interests of Palestinians.

It's hard to understand the pretzel logic that must be employed to insist that thugs who use innocent civilians as human shields are working for the best interests of said human shields... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.6    8 months ago
It's hard to understand the pretzel logic that must be employed to insist that thugs who use innocent civilians as human shields are working for the best interests of said human shields... 

It is hard for me to fathom how Palestinians have tolerated the abuses of their leaders in Hamas, or why.

 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    8 months ago

Hamas must be wiped from the face of the earth.

100% agree. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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4.1.9  Michael C.  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.7    8 months ago
It is hard for me to fathom how Palestinians have tolerated the abuses of their leaders in Hamas, or why.

Actually when Israel withdrew from Gaza, there was a short bloody  "war" between two factions-- I think it was between Hamas and those of the Fatah who were in Gaza. (They are bitter rivals>But IIRC it only lasted a few days (I don't remember the details I think Hamas won the war, brutally torturing and killing off Fatah members.

I believe some Fatah members eventually escaped to the West bank.

 
 
 
Michael C.
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4.1.10  Michael C.  replied to  Michael C. @4.1.9    8 months ago

I believe some Fatah members eventually escaped to the West bank.

I just googled it:

The  Battle of Gaza , also referred to as  Hamas's takeover of Gaza , was a military conflict between  Fatah  and  Hamas  that took place in the  Gaza Strip  from 10 to 15 June 2007. It was a prominent event in the  Fatah–Hamas conflict , centered on the struggle for power after Fatah lost the  2006 Palestinian legislative election . The battle resulted in the dissolution of the  unity government [3]  and the  de facto  division of the  Palestinian territories  into two entities: the  West Bank  governed by the  Palestinian National Authority  (PNA), and the Gaza Strip  governed by Hamas . Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip, while Fatah officials were either taken as prisoners, executed or expelled. [3] [4]  The  Palestinian Centre for Human Rights  reported that at least 161 people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the fighting. [1]

Cont'd ---> HERE

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Michael C. @4.1.9    8 months ago

Definitely sounds like a Palestinian problem.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5  Drakkonis    8 months ago

You know, they keep calling Israel "colonizers" but the Jews have been there since about 1250 BC and have always been there. Most of them got disbursed when Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD, but there was always a remnant there right up to the reestablishment of the country in modern times. They are more "indigenous" than any other group in the area. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Drakkonis @5    8 months ago

The “colonization” creed seems to be the last group to control the territory before the current one is “indigenous”.  Never mind what happened before penultimate group  took control.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5.1.1  Drakkonis  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    8 months ago
The “colonization” creed seems to be the last group to control the territory before the current one is “indigenous”.  Never mind what happened before penultimate group  took control.

In this case, at least. It seems that if conditions were different, they'd come up with a different definition in order to suit desired outcomes. That's the advantage the Left has with language. It can mean whatever they need it to mean for the occasion.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Drakkonis @5.1.1    8 months ago

While it’s always about political Expedience and the narrative with the left, they apply similar reasoning with  with land acknowledgments in the us and Canada. The “rightful owners” are considered the last tribe to conquer The area before the white people took control.

take the black hillls, which the us has now controlled longer than the Lakota who are considered the true owners because they ethnically cleansed the are of Chippewa and crows 100 years before the us took control. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5.1.3  Drakkonis  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.2    8 months ago

Yep. That's why I have little patience with Native American complaints. There isn't anything the Europeans did that they weren't already doing, except on a smaller scale due to their lower technology. Pretty much without exception, the first things tribes and nations did when encountering the Europeans was try to enlist them and the power they represented against their enemies. That is, they were attracted to the Europeans because they wanted that power for themselves so that they could continue doing unto others, only with more power. 

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2  JBB  replied to  Drakkonis @5    8 months ago

The ancient indigenous people of Canaan were Canaanites...

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5.2.1  Drakkonis  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 months ago

Who were not indigenous but, rather, pushed out or otherwise dominated those who were there before them. 

So, since that entire region is one long history of one group pushing out or subjugating another group, "indigenous" takes on a rather punch drunk meaning, don't you think? 

Answer: No, you don't think that because it doesn't serve your political narrative. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.2.2  Michael C.  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 months ago
The ancient indigenous people of Canaan were Canaanites...

Does that mean the ancient indigenous people of Judea were Jews?

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.2.4  Michael C.  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 months ago
The ancient indigenous people of Canaan were Canaanites...

Then the ancient indigenous people of Indigena must have been Indigenites!  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.2.5  Michael C.  replied to  Drakkonis @5.2.1    8 months ago
So, since that entire region is one long history of one group pushing out or subjugating another group,

You are talking about what was true "in the entire region".

My guess is that while there may be some exceptions, what you said about the entire region is also true in almost every other region of the world as well!

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5.2.6  Drakkonis  replied to  Michael C. @5.2.5    8 months ago
My guess is that while there may be some exceptions, what you said about the entire region is also true in almost every other region of the world as well!

Yes. I've made that point numerous times in other subjects. Humanity today is not one bit different from what it was five thousand years ago. We're still doing the same things we've done all along. In my view, the only thing that's made a dent in this has been Christianity. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.2.7  Michael C.  replied to  Drakkonis @5.2.6    8 months ago
In my view, the only thing that's made a dent in this has been Christianity.

But wait a minute--I thought Islam was the religion of Peace?

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.2.8  Michael C.  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 months ago
The ancient indigenous people of Canaan were Canaanites...

Some of them, yes. But there were other small kingdoms in the area as well. (Key point: yes but that doesn't mean they were the only ones--  it doesn't mean there were no Jews-- it only means that one of the Kingdon were Caanites, and IIRC the name of another Kingdom was Judea.

I found a really excellent video (which, BTW is by an Arab who argues for peace  between all the groups in the area-- he's also fluent in English, Arabic and Hebrew). It one of the best explanations I've found. I posted it here (but its a link to Instagram so if interested you need to have access to IG.

Here's the the comment with the link: 6.1    Michael C.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Drakkonis @5    8 months ago

Even the exemplary Palestinian, Arafat, was an Egyptian.  

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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5.3.1  Drakkonis  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3    8 months ago
Even the exemplary Palestinian, Arafat, was an Egyptian.

Yes. In fact, Gaza was occupied by Egypt until 67, but we never hear about that occupation. The reason is that Egypt was Islamic, which makes the only difference that matters to them. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.3.2  Michael C.  replied to  Drakkonis @5.3.1    8 months ago
Yes. In fact, Gaza was occupied by Egypt until 67, but we never hear about that occupation

And BTW the Egyptian occupation of Gaza was very harsh! They didn't like the Palestinians and didn't want themthere. So, for example, if a Palestinian planted a tree Egyptian soldiers pulled it out.

After the Egyptians were forced out by Israel the Israel occupation began. And it was the opposite of the Egyptian-- the Israelis built settlements but also encouraged commerce.

The standard of living for the Gazans was pretty high actually. (The Jews wanted that-- if only because A- if the Palis were happy they wouldn't attack the Israelis and B-If the Palis had money there could be commerce between them and the Jews-- benfitting both parties.

 
 
 
Michael C.
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5.3.3  Michael C.  replied to  Michael C. @5.3.2    8 months ago
The standard of living for the Gazans was pretty high actually. (The Jews wanted that-- if only because A- if the Palis were happy they wouldn't attack the Israelis and B-If the Palis had money there could be commerce between them and the Jews-- benfitting both parties.

I don't remeber the year, but the Egyptians built a high wall (not a fence) on their Gaza border. Eventually the Gazans toppled it and lots of them ran into Egypt! (Except for local Egyptian women who ran into Gaza! 

(Guess why.....?)

 
 
 
Michael C.
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6  Michael C.    8 months ago

I have found a really excellent article (by an Arab historian ) that explains the history and clarifies the misconceptions. However its on Instagram and I don't know how to seed it here. Does anyone know how to translate Instagram code into something that can be posted on NT?

 
 
 
Michael C.
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6.1  Michael C.  replied to  Michael C. @6    8 months ago

Here's the link. It works for me when I click it (probably because I have a working Instagram account), but I don't think it will work for everyone on NT. Does anyone know how to convert it so everyone here can see it?

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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6.1.1  Drakkonis  replied to  Michael C. @6.1    8 months ago

Thanks for this. That was good to listen to. 

 
 
 
Michael C.
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6.1.2  Michael C.  replied to  Drakkonis @6.1.1    8 months ago

Thanks for this. That was good to listen to.

You're welcome :-)

That is probably one of the best presentation of that information I've seen. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Michael C. @6    8 months ago

Thanks.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7  Buzz of the Orient    8 months ago

Well, it posted, but it was kind of hard to read and decipher.  I would have preferred to see an executive summary - that might be only ONE page long instead of three.  LOL

 
 
 
Michael C.
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7.1  Michael C.  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    8 months ago

Now I deleted that original cryptic post & was able to post a short link (comment 6.1 ) above.

P.S: It not text its a very short but excellent video (Or if you're under 40 years of age it not a "Video" but actually a "Reel"..(That's what the young'uns call a video now-a-days).

Its one of the best things I've seen re: the term "Palestine", Judea, the origin of the Jews and Palestinians, role of Romans in the area,  etc. 

The speaker is an Arab historian (who is fluent in English, Hebrew, and Arabic-- his accents are authentic)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Michael C. @7.1    8 months ago

Sorry, I can't do instagrams.

 
 
 
Michael C.
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7.1.2  Michael C.  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1.1    8 months ago
Sorry, I can't do instagrams.

I can see then myself but don't know how to post them on NT in a way where people who don't do Instagram can see them. I'm sure there's a way, but I don't have the technical knowledge.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8  Jeremy Retired in NC    8 months ago

Harvard students scramble to take back support for letter attacking Israel as some CEOs look to blacklist them

A flurry of Harvard University students and groups are desperately trying to backtrack on their support of a  letter blaming Israel   for the mass slaughter of its own people by Hamas terrorists — as some business titans seek to  blacklist them  from future jobs.

Poor babies.  Learning that actions have consequences the hard way.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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8.1  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    8 months ago
as some business titans seek to  blacklist them  from future jobs.

Reality bites...   LOL

 
 
 
Michael C.
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8.2  Michael C.  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    8 months ago
Poor babies.  Learning that actions have consequences the hard way.

I remember a somewhat similar story earlier-- but not about support for terrorism. And there will be more-- because due to the Internet is so easy to check on someone's past even if they fake (or even write a good) resume, and even with great recommendations etc.

A while back companies discovered how easy it had become to get info re; job applicants-- now that they had the Internet! One of the first stories I read about was that personnel depts, checking on the background o fjob applicants, discovered some of them had been in porn movies-- they felt that was a disqualifying factor so they didn't hire them! (In some cases they had credentials and references-- but the porn past totally ruined their job chances.

So now they're doing with people who support terrorism.

Smart move!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Michael C. @8.2    8 months ago

The only thing missing from this image is the Israeli child victim.

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2.1    8 months ago

The fact that you could post that as the truth we have seen it to be is disgusting.

I hope, as you do, that people who hold such extremist beliefs are held accountable.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.2.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.2    8 months ago

I'm puzzled by your comment.  I can't determine if you consider it a disgusting depiction of the truth or if you consider it disgusting that I posted it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.2.3    8 months ago
I'm puzzled by your comment.

Sorry, I should have worded that differently.

I mean we have seen what you posted so we know it's true.

It kind of boggles the mind that college-educated young people can just redefine words to suit their needs.

People supporting terrorists should be shunned and publicly outed as a community service.

What I find disgusting is the need to point out how some fairly well-educated people are willing to justify terrorism.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
8.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @8.2.4    8 months ago
What I find disgusting is the need to point out how some fairly well-educated people are willing to justify terrorism.

This just shows that even "well-educated" people are blithering idiots.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

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Michael C.
Freshman Expert
9.1  Michael C.  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    8 months ago

And most of the countries that do have Palestinian refugees actually treat them badly-- really discriminate against them.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Michael C. @9.1    8 months ago

Jordan treated them well after 1948, offered Jordanian citizenship and set aside 30 seats in Parliament, same as the East Bank.  Jordan’s kindness was repaid by a Palestinian that assassinated their King and later tried to overthrow the government.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
9.1.2  charger 383  replied to  Michael C. @9.1    8 months ago

Why would any country want them?  

 
 
 
Michael C.
Freshman Expert
9.1.3  Michael C.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1.1    8 months ago

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Michael C.
Freshman Expert
9.1.4  Michael C.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1.1    8 months ago
Jordan treated them well after 1948, offered Jordanian citizenship and set aside 30 seats in Parliament, same as the East Bank.  Jordan’s kindness was repaid by a Palestinian that assassinated their King and later tried to overthrow the government.

I remember that.

I don't know if its still true, but I know that Jordan actually has a "Palestinian majority"> And some people have made the case that therefore it could become a new nation of "Palestine"-- a second Palestine in addition to the one thats already exists.

 
 
 
Michael C.
Freshman Expert
9.1.5  Michael C.  replied to  charger 383 @9.1.2    8 months ago
Why would any country want them? 

Egypt doesn't want them. In fact in the past the Egyptians actually built a wall between Gaza and Egypt to keep then out! (People often talk about the Israeli blockade of Gaza-- but that's a bit misleading as it implies only the israel was blockading them-- because so is Egypt!

In fact the Egyptians built a wall (not a fence) to keep Gazans out! The Gazans eventually knocked it down:

The Palestinian group Hamas destroyed a portion of the wall dividing Egypt and Gaza, which has been under a blockade" .

January 24, 2008

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Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
9.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    8 months ago

That kind of looks familiar...

 
 

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