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National Archives reveals it has 5,400 Biden emails in which the president potentially used FAKE NAMES to forward government information and discuss business with son Hunter | Daily Mail Online

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  11 months ago  •  71 comments

By:   James Gordon (Mail Online)

National Archives reveals it has 5,400 Biden emails in which the president potentially used FAKE NAMES to forward government information and discuss business with son Hunter | Daily Mail Online
NARA has acknowledged holding around 5,400 emails, electronic records, and documents suggesting President Biden's used pseudonyms while Obama's Vice President.

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President Joe Biden may have used pseudonyms in nearly 5,400 emails, electronic records and documents when he was vice president, a bombshell letter from the National Archives and Records Administration reveals.

The trove of communications was confirmed after the Southeastern Legal Foundation (SLF) filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) for emails connected to aliases allegedly used by Biden, including Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters, and JRB Ware.

Republicans have been demanding the release of the emails they say could show Biden used the names to discuss foreign business with his son and share information on countries where he was doing deals.

The White House has insisted Biden was never in business with his son, and vice presidents and high-level government officials often use pseudonyms to prevent being inundated with spam and emails from the public.

At the time, the Obama administration dismissed criticism the communications were 'secret' because they were all archived.

But the sheer volume of emails raises questions over whether then-VP Biden broke the 'absolute wall' he said he maintained between the 'the personal and private, and the government'.

Emails from Hunter's laptop also reveal business partners referred to Biden as the 'big guy'.

NARA has acknowledged holding around 5,400 emails, electronic records, and documents suggesting Joe Biden used email pseudonyms while Obama's VP

Staffers used Biden's other address Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov to send a message about meeting then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko. Hunter was copied in on that email

Hunter also sent a message to Robin Ware (another of Biden's email pseudonyms) pushing for John McGrail to get a job in the legal department of the Treasury

The SLF submitted the FOIA request in June 2022 and the results appear to confirm that Biden was using the emails connected to the aliases.

Biden used various private email addresses from which he sometimes sent, received and forwarded government correspondence.

The names are all pseudonyms that Biden was known to use while he served as Vice President under Barack Obama from 2009 to 2017 and were used on emails that were about both official and family business.

The Southeastern Legal Foundation took legal action against NARA on Monday to secure the records' release.

The Foundation alleges that the documents might potentially demonstrate instances where President Biden forwarded government information and discussed government matters with his son, Hunter Biden, together with other individuals.

'All too often, public officials abuse their power by using it for their personal or political benefit. When they do, many seek to hide it. The only way to preserve governmental integrity is for NARA to release Biden's nearly 5,400 emails to SLF and thus the public.

'The American public deserves to know what is in them,' Kimberly Hermann, SLF general counsel, said in a statement.

The Southeastern Legal Foundation also accuses NARA of using delaying tactics ever since the initial FOIA request was filed more than 14 months ago.

No specific emails have been provided despite NARA acknowledging their existence.

On some emails Biden's daily schedule would be sent to his private email address, Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov while copying in son, Hunter

'We have performed a search of our collection for Vice Presidential records related to your [June 9, 2022] request and have identified approximately 5,138 email messages, 25 electronic files and 200 pages of potentially responsive records that must be processed in order to respond to your request,' Stephannie Oriabure, director of NARA's archival operations division, wrote to the Southeastern Legal Foundation on in June 2022, the lawsuit revealed.

Earlier this month, Kentucky Republican James Comer, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, demanded unredacted records from NARA, that similarly showed President Biden's use of a pseudonym during his vice presidency.

On that occasion, the purpose was to look into the role the former vice president played in his son's international business dealings.

Previously released emails from Hunter Biden's laptop indicated President Biden used the email address 'Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov' during his time as Vice President.

The emails also revealed correspondence between his aide and Hunter Biden over Joe Biden's daily schedule.

For at least four weeks in 2016, a worker in the Office of the Vice President, John Flynn, would send Biden his daily schedule to his private email address, Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov while copying in Hunter.

Hunter named his young son after his brother Beau. They attended the July 4 firework display at the White House with Joe and First Lady Jill Biden

There were 10 such e-mails which were copied to Hunter between May 18 and June 15, 2016.

The Robert Peters e-mail address used a @pci.gov domain. The service had been labeled as problematic by the DNS Institute's Domain Name System security report in 2020.

One email from Flynn to being sent to Joe, a.k.a Robert Peters, from May 2016 which was also cc'd to Hunter schedules '8.45am prep for 9am phonecall with Pres Poroshenko' who was the Ukrainian president.

At the time, Hunter was being paid $83,333 a month to sit on the board of corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings Ltd.

He had started working for Burisma in 2014 and finally departed two months after his father left the office of vice president.

Just months earlier, in December 2015, Biden had threatened Poroshenko that he would withhold $1 billion in US aid unless he fired Ukraine's top prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the owner of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky.

Shokin was widely accused of corruption and removed from office in March 2016.

Emails obtained by Hunter Biden's laptop show Joe Biden would use three pseudonyms: 'Robin Ware,' 'Robert L. Peters' and 'JRB ware' when emailing his two sons, Hunter, left and Beau, right. The pair are pictured at Obama's Inaugural Parade in January 2009

State Department officials are said to have attempted to raise concerns with directly with Biden about Hunter's involvement with Burisma but the complaints were rebuffed.

Another forwarded email from Joe Biden using one of his alias private emails, RobinWare456@gmail.com, saw him write to both Hunter and his brother Beau, who was the Delaware attorney general, on March 26, 2012.

The forwarded e-mail was from Deputy Secretary of State (and now current Secretary of State) Antony Blinken.

The email was from the US Ambassador to Ukraine John Tefft: 'Beau visited Kyev [Ukraine] on the Friday and gave a talk on corruption at the Hyatt . . . then attended reception at the residence where he met many young Ukrainian lawyers. We received many compliments on his presentation and for simply a frank discussion of a problem that still bedevils this country.'

Hunter started working for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company, in 2014.

He earned $83,333-a-month from Burisma until two months after Biden left office.

He was referred to as 'the big guy' and described in an email from a Ukrainian executive at Burisma which suggested he'd gotten access to him through Hunter.

It raised serious questions because the executive was also being investigated by a Ukrainian prosecutor who was ousted after Joe leveraged $1billion in American aide money to get him out.

President Biden has in the past denied ever offering access to him or the White House to any of Hunter's business associates.

Biden has long claimed there was complete separation between his family's business activities and his vice presidential responsibilities but Rep. Comer said that evidence appears to suggest otherwise.

'Joe Biden has stated there was 'an absolute wall' between his family's foreign business schemes and his duties as Vice President, but evidence reveals that access was wide open for his family's influence peddling,' Comer said in a statement on August 17.

'The National Archives must provide these unredacted records to further our investigation into the Biden family's corruption,' he added.

One concerning May 2016 email referenced in Comer's letter and previously reported by DailyMail.com shows White House staffers sent Joe's schedule, including a call with then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, to Joe's secret email 'Robert L. Peters'.

The staffer, John Flynn, also inexplicably copied Hunter, who was working for allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas firm Burisma at the time, on the email.

White House staffers copied Hunter on a total of 10 emails to Joe's alias addresses, records from his laptop show.

Joe and Hunter appeared to use the then-VP's secret email to discuss government business in another incident in June 2014.

Hunter used his Rosemont Seneca consultancy email address to write to his father on June 23, 2014 about the employment of then-deputy White House counsel John McGrail.

'Before you fill position pls talk to me — J. McGrail very much wants to serve as detail fr treasury,' Hunter wrote.

'Re Johnny call me right away Dad,' Joe wrote back from the email robinware456@gmail.com.

McGrail was promoted to VP's counsel the following year, then got his desired move to the Treasury as Senior Counsel in January 2017. He is currently Counselor to the Under Secretary for Domestic Finance at the department, according to his LinkedIn account.

Senators Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson have been asking for unredacted records from NARA regarding Joe's alias emails since 2021.

Republican Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley along with Rep. James Comer have been putting pressure on the National Archives to release Joe Biden's emails linked to addresses with pseudonyms

Anthony Blinken, then Biden's National Security Advisor also used the Robin Ware email to send a message to his boss about a talk Beau gave in Kyiv in 2012

Blinken wrote to Biden to say journalist Richard Ben Cramer had talked about Joe Biden's leadership right up to the moment of his death in 2013

Prosecutor Alexander Mackler used Joe Biden's secret email address Robinware356@gmail.com in a note expressing his condolences at Beau's death which he also sent to other members of the Biden family

In their letters they cited the Presidential Records Act which requires POTUS to provide copies of all communications involving government business, whether on personal email addresses or not, to the National Archives.

Comer has now also joined the push. In his August 17 letter to NARA, he pointed out that the emails challenge Joe's previous claim that while VP he had 'an absolute wall between the personal and private, and the government'.

'Evidence reveals that access was wide open for his family's influence peddling,' Comer said in a statement last week.

'We already have evidence of then-Vice President Biden speaking, dining, and having coffee with his son's foreign business associates. We also know that Hunter Biden and his associates were informed of then-Vice President Biden's official government duties in countries where they had a financial interest.

'The National Archives must provide these unredacted records to further our investigation into the Biden family's corruption.'

Other emails show Secretary of State Antony Blinken wrote to Joe using his alias addresses while acting as National Security Advisor to then-VP Joe.

Blinken forwarded a March 26 2012 email from Ukraine ambassador John Tefft to Joe's 'Robin Ware' address, describing a speech given by Beau to Ukrainian members of parliament in Kyiv on the topic of corruption.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    11 months ago

Joe Biden went to a lot of trouble to hide his correspondence with his son. 

Here again, the lie about never discussing business dealings with his son continues to crumble.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    11 months ago

The end result of corrupt officials who truly believe there are no consequences to their unethical and immoral acts.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    11 months ago

oh look, more 7+ year old evidence, that will probably never be produced, from the worn out "but biden" misdirection maga republicans hope will take the glaring spotlight off their 4x indicted criminal hero...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.2    11 months ago

7 years Joe has been lying through his teeth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.2    11 months ago
that will probably never be produced

As long as Merrick Garland is AG.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    11 months ago

Been a lot longer than 7 years!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2    11 months ago

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Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    11 months ago

The title in your 'article' states that the President 'potentially' did 'something'.

Therefore, another nothingberder.  Ya got nothin!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    11 months ago

They are all concerning the "weather"./S

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2    11 months ago

Shhh, don't tell anyone.

This gets buried along with the Jan 6th Committee failing to preserve and turn over material to House Republicans, as required by law.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    11 months ago

It's telling how the legal requirements get overlooked when it's the Democrats that are the subject.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    11 months ago

They ignore some laws and weaponize others.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    11 months ago

Then when all that hypocrisy is called out they go to their normal by whining and crying, calling everybody racists, fascists and shouting down anybody who opposes them.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    11 months ago

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afrayedknot
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2.1.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    11 months ago

Removed for context - sandy

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.5    11 months ago

Removed for context - sandy

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    11 months ago

Removed for context - sandy

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.8  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    11 months ago

Forget about turning over to House Republicans- how about not turning it over to Trump's defense team that requested it? "It was destroyed"- what bullshit. Each and every last one of those that destroyed it need to be fired and charge for destroying evidence.

Want to lay bets that the Jan 6th committee made sure that all evidence they thought damning to Trump made it to Smith intact? While everything that disproved their TDS narrative was destroyed.

Democrats are making a mockery of the legal system- and their lemming followers don't care.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.8    11 months ago
Want to lay bets that the Jan 6th committee made sure that all evidence they thought damning to Trump made it to Smith intact? While everything that disproved their TDS narrative was destroyed.

It is obvious that is exactly what happened.

The Jan 6th Committee was a farce from the start.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    11 months ago

We all saw the evidence laid out before us on 1/6 and knew it was all planned ahead of time.  The former 'president's incited coup/insurrection failed and it looks like he might finally face justice.

Every accusation he makes against the President and Democrats is a confession.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.1.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    11 months ago

Along with the connivance of the two token RINO's on said committee. One with a known personal axe to grind against Trump.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    11 months ago

Totally normal.  Who doesn’t set up pseudonyms to email their son about their business?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4  Hallux    11 months ago

Potentially + may have + suggesting = guilty? Send in the kangaroos, they know. /S

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @4    11 months ago

I saw a pundit on tv this morning say that Trump's court cases are not a distraction from his campaign, they ARE his campaign. The Republicans have a two pronged strategy for 2024.  Make Trump a "martyr" and try to drag Biden down to Trump's level so that the voters may say "it's a coin flip". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    11 months ago
they ARE his campaign.

THEY ARE BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    11 months ago

Biden is already at Trump's level. Actually below it in some cases.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    11 months ago
I saw a pundit on tv this morning say that Trump's court cases are not a distraction from his campaign, they ARE his campaign. The Republicans have a two pronged strategy for 2024.  Make Trump a "martyr" and try to drag Biden down to Trump's level so that the voters may say "it's a coin flip"

And that relates to Joe's emails how?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    11 months ago

It doesn't, but it's just another excuse to throw Trump into the conversation.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @4    11 months ago
log·ic

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NOUN
  1. reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity:
    "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic" · "the logic of the argument is faulty" · "he explains his move with simple logic"

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Greg Jones
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4.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @4    11 months ago

"Maybe's", "probablies", "possiblies, and "may haves" are all they have on Trump.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.3.1  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3    11 months ago

Well seeing as how he is facing four, repeat four, separate indictments for a myriad of crimes totaling ninety-one, repeat ninety-one felony counts…it will as it should be and left for the courts to determine his fate…and thankfully not the court of public opinion. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  afrayedknot @4.3.1    11 months ago

Who gives a flying fuck how many indictments Trump is facing? Two are by TDS driven morons that campaigned on "getting Trump" at the state and local level. Two are by the Garland DOJ- who has proven to the most biased AG in the history of the US. All are taking place in where Brandon won 80 to 90 percent of the vote- so TDS suffers will abound in the jury selection.

Want to explain how Brandon the Human Fuck up machine should be treated differently where it concerns classified documents (many of which are from his time as a Senator- which he had no damn right to keep). No FBI raids on any of the Brandon homes or compounds; letting Brandon put together a team that had no classified clearance to find documents- and they still missed some; And corruption (pay for play)- where Weiss- who has ties to Brandon's family was named special counsel after not wanting to press any charges against Hunter; wouldn't pursue any avenues of investigation that would tie Hunter's dealings to Brandon; and had to be shamed by IRS whistleblowers into working a plea deal with Hunter to try and avoid looking like the biased corrupt piece of shit he is. Expect to see results from Weiss and Hur (who is a major TDS sufferer himself) sometime in the next 4 years- when Weiss can let more statute of limitations run out- and Hur can insure his investigation will not adversely affect Brandon and Democrats in the election.

Either the law applies to everyone equally or no one. Democrats are quickly bringing about the day when it will apply to no one. When that they comes they will also be screaming the loudest.

  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.4  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @4    11 months ago
Potentially + may have + suggesting = guilty? Send in the kangaroos, they know. /S

The investigations are continuing. Be patient.

But we can see with our own two eyes and hear with our own ears that Joe Biden has lied multiple times about his son's business.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.4.1  Ronin2  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4    11 months ago

Being patient- something leftists told us all during the last 7 plus years of their BS investigations and impeachments of Trump.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @4.4.1    11 months ago

The difference between the Trump investigations and the Biden Investigations is that the Biden investigations is actually turning up evidence.  As where the Trump investigation not so much.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.4.2    11 months ago

How you can say that with a straight face boggles the mind. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.3    11 months ago

Then prove me wrong.  We've been waiting for YEARS for you to do this and you've failed.  Every.  Single.  Time.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.4.4    11 months ago

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Ed-NavDoc
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4.4.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.5    11 months ago

If you cannot beat them, you insult them? Real classy there...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.5    11 months ago

And there it is.  Another failure to prove somebody wrong and as expected, again, you pathetically resorted to the personal attacks.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.4.6    11 months ago

It's pretty pathetic really.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.5  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @4    11 months ago

I stopped when I saw that President Biden 'potentially' did 'something' in the title of this 'article'

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.5.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @4.5    11 months ago

At least you're now admitting you don't know what you're talking about.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.5    11 months ago

Certain members keep forgetting I have them on ignore but continue to make your comments that won't be seen or acknowledged.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.5.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @4.5.2    11 months ago

"comments that won't be seen or acknowledged."

You just did!   jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.5.4  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @4.5.3    11 months ago

acknowledged maybe for noting that fools keep doing what they do

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.5.5  Snuffy  replied to  Greg Jones @4.5.3    11 months ago

Oh Snap!!!   jrSmiley_40_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.5.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Greg Jones @4.5.3    11 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif Good one!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    11 months ago

More nonsense.

The names are all pseudonyms that Biden was known to use while he served as Vice President under Barack Obama from 2009 to 2017 and were used on emails that were about both official and family business.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5    11 months ago

This influence peddling was going on back then.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    11 months ago

It's sadly hilarious that people who say there is no evidence against Trump present these sorts of conjecturish and speculative allegations against Biden as if they are self-evident. 

We are, by now, used to this nonsense. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    11 months ago

Look John, his son was selling influence. There is no debating that.

There is now clear evidence of money into various accounts that went to the Biden family

Joe said he never talked to Hunter about business and now we have over 20 confirmed phone conversations between Joe and Hunter's business associates.

We have Joe using aliases in hundreds of e-mails

We have IRS investigators coming forward telling us that their investigation was limited by the DOJ as to who they could interview and what could be asked. Hunter was tipped off to an imminent raid. Serious crimes were allowed to disappear via letting the statute of limitations run out. A grand sweetheart deal was forged between those investigating Hunter and Hunter's lawyers. The FBI sat on the Hunter Laptop for years. The media refuses to cover the Biden family scandal.

The DOJ/FBI is refusing to turn over subpoenaed documents to a House oversight Committee.


We get it John, you like it.


 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    11 months ago

Joe Biden has been lying for years about his son's business.

And dumbasses keep claiming Joe is totally innocent despite the lies he has already been caught in.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    11 months ago

Not long ago they were saying "I didn't vote for Hunter."

Then it was "nobody cares about Hunter."

Next it will be "Joe didn't know what he was doing"

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    11 months ago

Take a look at the dumbasses making the idiotic claim Joe is innocent.  They are the same dumbasses who have been screeching Trump is guilty for the last 7 years.  The difference is, the accusations against Biden are backed by evidence.  The accusations against Trump are backed by hurt feelings.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    11 months ago
resent these sorts of conjecturish and speculative allegations against Biden as if they are self-evident.

It's called circumstantial evidence.  People are in jail because of it.  And it keeps adding up... 

Why was Joe Biden using aliases to email government business to his child? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    11 months ago

I remember when Joe kept saying "I never discussed any of my son's business with him", now the WH says Joe was "never IN business with his son".

I feel Joe is going to learn the hard way that the coverup is usually what trips people up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.7    11 months ago
I remember when Joe kept saying "I never discussed any of my son's business with him", now the WH says Joe was "never IN business with his son".

And eventually that will evolve into "I didn't know what I was doing."

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    11 months ago

So where is the evidence then?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5    11 months ago

What is the nonsense, that Biden used alias or hasn’t released the email in the most transparent administration ever?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2    11 months ago

The nonsense is that these "allegations" contain a whiff of proof. 

The article says other politicians use aliases. Are they all corrupt?   Apparently Biden's use of aliases were so well known or common that there was no attempt to shield them from the National Archives. Nor were they "secret" .  

The simple use of aliases does not appear to be "proof" against Biden.  Do you have anything else? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    11 months ago

We have definitive proof Joe has been lying all along whether you are willing to admit to it or not.

Guess its ok with you because he isn't Trump.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    11 months ago
The nonsense is that these "allegations" contain a whiff of proof. 

Evidently the allegations against OJ Simpson didn't contain a whiff of proof either.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    11 months ago
"The article says other politicians use aliases. Are they all corrupt?   Apparently Biden's use of aliases were so well known or common that there was no attempt to shield them from the National Archives. Nor were they "secret" .   So why won't the National Archives release them....in the name of transparency?
 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    11 months ago

That's all they have John, allegations, in other words, nothing, as usual.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5    11 months ago

The amount of evidence of Biden's corrupt and criminal activities accumulates daily. It's not going away, nor will it be disproven.

Joe's going down, the decent people of American are getting fed up with the depth of this deceit and dishonesty.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @5    11 months ago

Only to those who refuse see past the blinders they have on.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6  Greg Jones    11 months ago

Can you imagine the outrage and uproar of the left if this kind of chicanery had been used by Trump and Jared or Ivana???

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @6    11 months ago

We would have every Soros funded DA coming out to investigate it!

The media would be on it 24/7.

They know it too.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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7  Nerm_L    11 months ago

Well, the screw turns.  Celebrities using pseudonyms isn't unusual and, by itself, isn't nefarious.  But NARA only retains communication dealing with official information.  So those Biden pseudonyms are apparently associated with transmission and discussion of official information.  The emails held by NARA won't directly implicate VP Biden in trading government information.  But it looks like they do make connections to individuals with an interest in seeking special treatment from the Obama administration.  Tying Obama to a pseudonymous name used in the emails would be a bombshell. 

(It's actually easier to scrub private emails by closing commercial accounts than it is to scrub a server in the basement.  That's why Clinton was incompetent but not criminal.  Biden knew what he was doing.)  

By the way, the VP's itineraries and schedules are classified.  That means Biden was transmitting and discussing classified information outside of official channels.  While that does not indicate intent, that fact does meet the minimum criteria for espionage.  Seems DOJ may need to dust off the Clinton defense; incompetent but not criminal.  A charge of incompetence against Biden would be more problematic.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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7.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Nerm_L @7    11 months ago

"Celebrities using pseudonyms isn't unusual and, by itself, isn't nefarious."

Celebrities using pseudonyms are not usually attempting to cover up criminal and/or unethical behavior either.

 
 

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