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Pope Francis blasts US Catholics for 'reactionary' views

  

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Via:  gregtx  •  11 months ago  •  18 comments

Pope Francis blasts US Catholics for 'reactionary' views
Pope Francis criticized the state of the Catholic Church in the United States, calling it "reactionary" in recent comments during a closed-door meeting with members of the Jesuit religious order in Portugal.

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Pope Francis criticized the state of the Catholic Church in the United States, calling it "reactionary" in recent comments during a closed-door meeting with members of the Jesuit religious order in Portugal.

The pontiff singled out the U.S. Catholic Church for what he said was a "reactionary attitude" that had wedded itself to political ideology instead of the traditions of the Catholic Church. The remarks were made on Aug. 5 but were only published Monday in the Civilta Cattolica, a Jesuit journal.

"You have seen that in the United States the situation is not easy: There is a very strong reactionary attitude," the pope reportedly said. "It is organized and shapes the way people belong, even emotionally."

The pope described a "climate of closure" in the United States, and that in such an environment "one can lose the true tradition and turn to ideologies for support" and that this leads to a factional view of the church.

"In other words, ideology replaces faith, membership in a sector of the Church replaces membership in the Church," he said.

The pope said that the error of the U.S. Catholic Church is that they view "the doctrine of the church as a monolith" and that "When you go backward, you make something closed off, disconnected from the roots of the church."

"I want to remind these people that backwardness is useless, and they must understand that there's a correct evolution in the understanding of questions of faith and morals," the pope said.

The Catholic bishops in the United States have faced criticism over the 10 years of Pope Francis's pontificate for not wholeheartedly embracing the pope's more liberal approach to leading the Catholic Church than the more conservative popes Benedict XVI and John Paul II.

U.S. bishops such as Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas, and Cardinal Raymond Burke have been, at times, vocal critics of the pope's approach to governing the Catholic Church. Most recently, Strickland published a pastoral letter that warned of attempts to soften the church's teachings on issues such as contraception, same-sex marriage, and eternal salvation during the planned Synod on Synodality, a meeting of bishops set to take place over the next year.

"Regrettably, it may be that some will label as schismatics those who disagree with the changes being proposed," Strickland wrote. "Be assured, however, that no one who remains firmly upon the plumb line of our Catholic faith is a schismatic. We must remain unabashedly and truly Catholic, regardless of what may be brought forth."


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    11 months ago
"You have seen that in the United States the situation is not easy: There is a very strong reactionary attitude," the pope reportedly said. "It is organized and shapes the way people belong, even emotionally."

The pope described a "climate of closure" in the United States, and that in such an environment "one can lose the true tradition and turn to ideologies for support" and that this leads to a factional view of the church.

"In other words, ideology replaces faith, membership in a sector of the Church replaces membership in the Church," he said.
 
 
 
GregTx
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2  seeder  GregTx    11 months ago
The pontiff singled out the U.S. Catholic Church for what he said was a "reactionary attitude" that had wedded itself to political ideology instead of the traditions of the Catholic Church.

Said the most theologically liberal pontiff in history. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  GregTx @2    11 months ago

Way to prove his point.

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1    11 months ago

No doubt.. did you think I  disagreed?

 
 
 
CB
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2.2  CB  replied to  GregTx @2    11 months ago

This is the sickness that haunts us all: The 'mystery' of the Pope is being selected by God from amongst the ranks. . . and yet this conservative/liberal bs pollutes the body of Christ/Church.  Next, the question to be asked is:

Did God appoint this man Pontiff or did mere men?!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @2.2    11 months ago

He was elected by mortal men

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.2  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.1    11 months ago

If this is the case, then the pope is merely a man. An elected leader, no more empowered by God than any other leader!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @2.2.2    11 months ago

Of course he is. He has no "ear to God" and what he proclaims is not divinely inspired. One of the many reasons I left the Church

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.4  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.3    11 months ago

Of course, the "faithful" or "faithless" will not defend their religion or their pope in this place. It's very rich that they would want the outside world to follow after themselves instead of him.  /s

They are rebuked!

 
 
 
GregTx
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3  seeder  GregTx    11 months ago

Bump

 
 
 
GregTx
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4  seeder  GregTx    11 months ago

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CB
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5  CB    11 months ago

Interesting. Who heads this Church? The Pope or U.S. Bishops?

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  CB @5    11 months ago

Whom do you think heads it CB?

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.1  CB  replied to  GregTx @5.1    11 months ago

If you don't bother to answer; why ask?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.1.1    11 months ago

SMH

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @5    11 months ago

I don't think the Bishops understand the concept of "obedience". They took vows to be obedient to church teachings and the pope who is the Supreme Head of the Church.

These guys better be heading to confession on Saturday

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6  Trout Giggles    11 months ago

I'm a recovering Catholic. I left it when Pope Benny was in charge. I didn't like him because he had no vision for the Church, no plans for bringing into the modern era.

The Church doesn't have to be so stead. It needs to embrace modern ideas or they are going to lose membership.

 
 
 
CB
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6.1  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    11 months ago

The biggest problem for the Catholic Church and equally for any church is its interactions outside the Churches! Of course, the outside world is going to pass judgement on the Church. . .when the Churches bothers (and they do) to pass judgement on the outside world. 

 
 

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