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Exclusive-DeSantis' biggest donor says he won't give more money unless changes are made

  

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By:  kavika  •  11 months ago  •  60 comments

Exclusive-DeSantis' biggest donor says he won't give more money unless changes are made

(Reuters) - Hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow, the biggest individual donor to a group supporting Ron DeSantis' presidential bid, told Reuters on Friday he will not donate more money unless the Florida governor attracts new major donors and adopts a more moderate approach

"He does need to shift to get to moderates. He'll lose if he doesn't ... Extremism isn't going to get you elected," Bigelow said in an interview, adding that he had communicated these concerns to DeSantis' campaign.

When asked which specific policies Bigelow did not support, Bigelow cited only DeSantis signing in April a bill passed by the Florida legislature banning abortions after six weeks, a move that came after Bigelow had donated the $20 million.

Bigelow said he would not donate more money for now. "Not until I see that he's able to generate more on his own. I'm already too big a percentage," Bigelow said. "A lot of his donors are still on the fence.

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Kavika
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1  author  Kavika     11 months ago
But the hotelier was incensed by the bill banning abortions after six weeks, saying that was too early and that many women do not even know they are pregnant at that stage.

That should send a message to DeSantis that his BS culture wars and six week abortion ban are not selling well. Another large doner pulled his support of DeSantis over the same issue and is now backing Senator Tim Scott.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1    11 months ago

the pro-choice issue will deliver the house and keep the senate in control of the democrats...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.1    11 months ago
the pro-choice issue will deliver the house and keep the senate in control of the democrats...

It is something that most moderate Republicans don't want to discuss.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1.1.1    11 months ago

they can turn a blind eye to the issue, but not to the election results it will bring them...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.1.2    11 months ago

Exactly

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1.1.3    11 months ago

the GOP blame for those losses will be directed towards the thumper contingent of rwnj's...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Kavika @1    11 months ago
That should send a message to DeSantis that his BS culture wars and six week abortion ban are not selling well.

They have learned the proper method of communicating with republican politicians.

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Kavika
Professor Principal
1.2.1  author  Kavika   replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    11 months ago

LOL, excellent Ozzwald.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @1    11 months ago
Another large doner pulled his support of DeSantis over the same issue and is now backing Senator Tim Scott.

Tim Scott isn't any more moderate regarding abortion than DeSantis.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.3.1  author  Kavika   replied to  Gsquared @1.3    11 months ago
By Thursday morning in New Hampshire, Scott said he did believe some type of federal restriction should be implemented, and said if president, he would “definitely” sign into law a 20-week ban — a measure he has supported in the Senate.

DeSantis wants a nationwide six week ban, G. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1.3    11 months ago

I definitely don't see the maga faithful giving tim scott unanimous support, even if he wins the primary...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @1.3.1    11 months ago

No he doesn't

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.3.4  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.3    11 months ago
No he doesn't

Great news, is he now going to withdraw his six-week abortion ban in Florida?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.3.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @1.3.4    11 months ago

I assume you understand state laws and federal laws are different things. You can google the concept of federalism if you are truly confused. 

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Gsquared
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1.3.6  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @1.3.1    11 months ago

If the Republicans were the majority in the House and Senate and passed a nationwide total ban without any exceptions, President Scott would happily sign it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.7  Texan1211  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.6    11 months ago

Shouldn't Congress codify abortion into law?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.3.8  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.5    11 months ago

Not confused at all, Sean. 

So he wants a six week abortion ban for Florida but not for the US if he becomes President a typical duck when getting hammered by his six week Florida ban. 

SBA’s criticism of DeSantis came in response to a recent interview in which the Florida governor said abortion policy would be best decided by the states. In the interview, DeSantis stressed that he would bring his views on abortion into the Oval Office, and that he would “be a leader with the bully pulpit to help local communities and states advance the cause of life.”

Then there was this comment by DeSantis:

At the same event where Kim Reynolds signed into law Iowa Republicans’ extreme six-week abortion ban, DeSantis praised the legislation and endorsed a national ban in the same breath.

Tucker Carlson : “You signed a ban on abortion after six weeks in Florida. Would you do the same as president, nationally?”

DeSantis: “Well, I’m very proud to say Kim Reynolds is here and she signed a great heartbeat bill today. We were able to do that in Florida. We had a lot of opposition to that. I’m proud to have been a pro-life governor and I will be a pro life-president, so of course I want to sign pro-life legislation.”

That sure sounds like he wants a national ban on abortion.

Have you seen DeSantis's polls with women, he is getting hammered and one of the issues is his abortion stance.

I can post them for you if you want to see them. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @1.3.1    11 months ago

I can live with a 20 week ban

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.3.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.3.2    11 months ago

And that's unfortunate. Is it because he's black?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.3.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @1.3.8    11 months ago
So he wants a six week abortion ban for Florida but not for the US if he becomes President a typical duck when getting hammered by his six week Florida ban. 

Given your daily  focus on DeSantis  I'm surprised you missed this from last week. 

The nation’s leading anti-abortion group on Monday called Gov. Ron DeSantis’ failure to support federal abortion restrictions “unacceptable"

But stick to your narrative. It's easier. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.12  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.10    11 months ago

yup. that don't fly with the "good people" segment of trump's base.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.3.13  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.11    11 months ago

Oh, I saw that and also posted his statements on the matter. Keep swinging.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @1.3.13    11 months ago

Oh, I saw that

You saw that and  still claimed   DeSantis wants a six week nationwide ban?.

Wow. That's even  worse. [deleted]

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3.15  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.14    11 months ago
Do you feel constrained by reality at all?

compared to who?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.3.16  author  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.14    11 months ago

I simply used DeSantis own words. I know that may be a stretch for some but there it is. 

Oh, here are the polls on woman voters and their feelings on DeSantis culture war nonsense. I thought that the 54 vs 35% six week abortion ban question was excellent.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kavika @1    11 months ago

In the beginning I was leaning in the direction of DeSantis but he has gone too far in the direction of the far right. I also currently favor Tim Scott over DeSantis. Either way I will never vote for Trump or Biden.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.4.1  Snuffy  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.4    11 months ago
In the beginning I was leaning in the direction of DeSantis but he has gone too far in the direction of the far right.

Agreed.  Seems like he felt he needed to out-trump Trump in order to get his voters to vote for him in the primary.  But he's gone too far and I don't support him now either.  Still waiting to see what the choices will be down the road.   Would love to see Scott gain some more following, he needs to do well in the debates.  If the final choice is Trump vs Biden might just get drunk instead.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.4.2  author  Kavika   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.4    11 months ago

DeSantis is a one trick pony. Culture wars seem to be all he has.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.4.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Snuffy @1.4.1    11 months ago

I might join ya

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.4.3    11 months ago

just don't leave your beverage unattended...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    11 months ago

The only way a "moderate" can win the GOP nomination is if Trump is somehow forced out of the race. Since it doesnt appear he will be convicted of a crime in time to force him out, DeSantis has no choice but to try and get to Trump's right, which is likely where he wants to be anyway. 

He is not a likeable person, so all he can do is keep digging a hole that he'll never get out of. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @2    11 months ago
He is not a likeable person, so all he can do is keep digging a hole that he'll never get out of. 

Every time he opens his mouth he proves your point, JR. 

His comment that ''he is going to slit the throats of the deep state'' is classic DeSantis foot-in-mouth disease.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    11 months ago
DeSantis has no choice

DeSantis needs to create DeSantis voters. To do that he needs to provide a compelling vision of his America.

I don't charge for the advice, Ron.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    11 months ago
DeSantis needs to create DeSantis voters.

I'm pretty sure he does that every morning after breakfast...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.2.1    11 months ago

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3  bbl-1    11 months ago

Big doners, huh?  That is the problem.  Anyway, don't understand why a certain political party would be in favor of forced childbirth under penalty of law regardless of circumstance.  This too, and this and more coming from the people that think government has to much power as it is.  Right wing abhors government that protects the people and worships government that keeps the foot on their neck.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4  TᵢG    11 months ago

DeSantis' campaign strategy has been mystifying.   He either is not listening to his campaign advisors or he picked some nutcases to run his campaign.   The 6 week abortion ban is a major unforced error that further positions DeSantis into the fringe.

Very strange.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @4    11 months ago
Very strange.

And he keeps doubling down on the culture wars nonsense which is now really starting to backfire on him.

The latest polling of women voters shows DeSantis very underwater on all of his culture war nonsense and especially on his abortion stance.

His ban cannot go into effect until another case is decided by the Florida Supreme Court, it's a privacy issue that is being decided currently with the Florida Supreme Court. It's interesting to note that he rarely talks about his abortion ban on the campaign trail.

He has picked inexperienced campaign managers who think that he is doing well of course.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @4    11 months ago

maybe he's hoping for a divine bump in the polls...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.2    11 months ago

Even Jesus has turned his back on him

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.2.2  author  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    11 months ago

DeSantis just terminated his campaign manager and promoted another person to that position.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    11 months ago

you don't think he holds a grudge against italians, do you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @4.2.3    11 months ago

Nah....almost all the Popes were Italians....

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.4    11 months ago

the eye-ties turned him into yard art, and his dad let them, because geezus was a socialist...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.2.6  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @4.2.5    11 months ago

Indeed JC was a socialist.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.2.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Kavika @4.2.6    11 months ago

I’m no Christian but from what I’ve read, he wasn’t political.  "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's…”

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
5  evilone    11 months ago

I think this was one of his last big money donors. He poll numbers are getting worse too. His race to the right on the culture war and his odd amalgamation of establishment and populist stance on economics win him no friends even within his own party.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Kavika   replied to  evilone @5    11 months ago
win him no friends even within his own party.

And they are becoming more and more vocal, EG.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
5.1.1  evilone  replied to  Kavika @5.1    11 months ago

That will help his opponents biggly.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2  devangelical  replied to  evilone @5    11 months ago
big money donors

... know he's a bad investment.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @5.2    11 months ago

The latest polling shows that DeSantis is now running in third place behind Trump and Ramaswamy.

Not a good sign at all.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    11 months ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.2.1    11 months ago

he took a beating from the mentally defective army and their leader at the iowa state fair...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.4  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @5.2.3    11 months ago

... and his supporters chant, more ron, more ron.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.5  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @5.2.3    11 months ago

I saw that, not a good sign for DeSantis.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.6  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @5.2.4    11 months ago

LOL

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.2.6    11 months ago

his wife is already looking for somebody that's taller...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.8  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @5.2.7    11 months ago

... and not hung like a gnat.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.9  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @5.2.8    11 months ago

... that just got out of an ice bath.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.10  author  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @5.2.9    11 months ago

He best not look at the polls, he is going downhill faster than a skateboard on ice.

 
 

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