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Ron DeSantis’s big idea: Make Florida students ignorant

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  hallux  •  last year  •  98 comments

By:    Jennifer Rubin - WaPo

Ron DeSantis’s big idea: Make Florida students ignorant

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who earned two Ivy League degrees, has apparently decided that making Florida schools and universities the laughingstock of the country is good politics. The Republican already went after public school teachers with his “don’t say gay” bill, championed an effort to prevent instruction about history that might   upset students   (make that   White   students), and banned Advanced Placement classes in African American studies. Now, he has decided to shred the curriculums of Florida’s public universities, inviting students interested in unapproved subjects to go to California (!) or other states that don’t control what can and cannot be taught.



This week, he signed a bill banning state spending on diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in public universities. The Post reported : “These programs often assist colleges in increasing student and faculty diversity, which can apply to race and ethnicity, as well as sexual orientation, religion and socioeconomic status.”


Worse: “The law also forbids public colleges from offering general education courses — which are part of the required curriculum for all college students — that ‘distort significant historical events,’ teach ‘identity politics’ or are ‘based on theories that systemic racism, sexism, oppression, or privilege are inherent in the institutions of the United States and were created to maintain social, political, or economic inequities.’”


Who decides what “distorts”? How can the state prohibit instruction about, say, the consequences of Jim Crow in a U.S. history survey class? Well, that’s up to the regime DeSantis has installed. We now see the full extent of the governor’s authoritarian impulse to control independent sources of information and to eviscerate professional standards that provide the basis for challenging state action and abuse of power.


DeSantis declared, “If you want to do things like gender ideology, go to Berkeley” — or presumably, to some other state system that features quality scholarship about topics that make right - wing purveyors of White male supremacy squeamish.


If newly installed University of Florida president and former Nebraska senator Ben Sasse had an ounce of integrity, he would resign in protest of this wholesale annihilation of academic freedom. ( The Chronicle of Higher Education , however, reported recently that, a month into his tenure, “Sasse has made few public appearances and declined a number of interview requests from local media.” His obsequiousness to his partisan boss and contempt for academic independence should  surprise no one .)


DeSantis is not alone in the assault on academic freedom; he is simply the highest - profile MAGA figure attempting to suppress freedom and dissent. The  American Association of University Professors   recently documented 57 bills in 23 states aimed at undermining academic freedom. The AAUP explained: “The current round of legislation reinforces a right-wing communication effort to attack public colleges and universities on the grounds that they are ideologically outside the mainstream, hostile to conservative views and focused on indoctrinating students into 'woke’ ideology.” The report added: “These bills are only one piece of a broader campaign to remake public higher education that includes Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ hostile takeover of the New College of Florida.”



As with press freedom and democracy more generally, academic freedom is under assault   around the world .   The University World News   recently reported that, “over the past decade, academic freedom has declined in more than 22 countries representing more than half of the world’s population, four billion people, says the   Academic Freedom Index: Update 2023 (AFI) .” Though the Czech Republic Luxembourg, Sweden, Peru, Portugal and Canada enjoy robust protection of academic freedom, the AFI report says, “autocracies like China, and increasingly authoritarian countries [from] India, to fully-fledged democracies like Britain and the United States” show measurable declines in academic freedom, a cornerstone of freedom of thought and democratic self-governance.



It’s not hard to figure out that the threat to vibrant, free discourse and to educational independence comes primarily from right - wing nationalists. “Since 2016, the year Donald J. Trump was elected president, America’s AFI score has declined from 0.92 to 0.79,” the University World News report found. “This figure puts the United States in the top third of the fifth quintile, below South Africa and above Kenya.”


Anti-democratic, nationalist movements   have   historically   attacked universities as hotbeds of elite and foreign influence, seeking to bend instruction to the will of the state and turn academics into handmaidens of state propaganda. Right - wing pundits who have whined incessantly about the disfavored status of conservative academics (largely because of peer or student pressure) have had precious little to say about state-driven attacks against academic freedom from a   petty autocrat . (Their caterwauling about political correctness on campus is the sort of projection and victimology that seeks to cast oppressors as victims and tyrants as saviors of Western culture.)



DeSantis might get his wish. Parents, students and businesses seeking well-educated workers might decide it is better to decamp from Florida for states that prepare students for the real world, help them function in a diverse society and foster intellectual excellence. Sadly, that will leave Floridians less prosperous and less capable of performing the obligations of informed citizenry. Perhaps that’s the point.




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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    last year

Full disclosure, I seeded this article solely because Jennifer Rubin and WaPo irritate certain folks. To them I say tough shit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @1    last year

you're a precious addition to this forum

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1    last year

Oh I know ...

256

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @1    last year

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Hallux
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1.2.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2    last year

[deleted]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @1.2.1    last year

I'm sorry. I thought he was being a jerk

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.3  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.2    last year

As some CSI ass often said, "Never apologize!"

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.2.3    last year

trump was on CSI???

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.5  seeder  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    last year

Whenever they need a pompous denier.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.2.5    last year

... or to reset the parameters on a polygraph.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @1.2.3    last year

No...that would be NCIS....Gibbs

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.2.8  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.7    last year

You corrected me, outstanding! I stopped watching when Ziva left the show.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2  Trout Giggles    last year

So. You won't be able to take any history or sociology classes that teach real world history or problems.

What's next? Banning books in the English Department?

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    last year

Why stop there, braille causes unsightly telltale calluses on one's fingers?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     last year
DeSantis declared, “If you want to do things like gender ideology, go to Berkeley” — or presumably, to some other state system that features quality scholarship about topics that make right - wing purveyors of White male supremacy squeamish.

DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn about Florida's history of slavery, Jim Crow, and associated bigotry that was alive and well into the 1970s. 

In 1957 — in defiance of U.S. Supreme Court school desegregation decisions — the Florida Supreme Court  concluded  that federal law could be superseded by state law and refused to order the University of Florida to admit a Black student to its law school. In 1958, the Florida legislature empowered county boards of education to close public schools during “emergencies” or when federal troops arrived to enforce integration decrees. As late as 1967, Sarasota passed an ordinance requiring segregated beaches. 
 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @3    last year
DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn about Florida's history of slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings and associated bigotry that was alive and well into the 1970s. 

I would love to see a quote from DeSantis saying that.

I am guessing that he didn't say it any more than the Florida law said "Don't say gay".

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    last year
 Who decides what “distorts”? How can the state prohibit instruction about, say, the consequences of Jim Crow in a U.S. history survey class? Well, that’s up to the regime DeSantis has installed. We now see the full extent of the governor’s authoritarian impulse to control independent sources of information and to eviscerate professional standards that provide the basis for challenging state action and abuse of power. 
 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    last year

I don't see any quote from DeSantis saying anything even remotely close to what has been claimed.

That alone should be embarrassing enough without deflecting.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    last year

speaking of embarrassing...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @3.1.3    last year
speaking of embarrassing...

I made no mention of you, nor was my post directed to you.

Perhaps YOU could provide what was asked for--a direct quote from DeSantis saying what has been claimed.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    last year
Who decides what “distorts”? How can the state prohibit instruction about, say, the consequences of Jim Crow in a U.S. history survey class? Well, that’s up to the regime DeSantis has installed. We now see the full extent of the governor’s authoritarian impulse to control independent sources of information and to eviscerate professional standards that provide the basis for challenging state action and abuse of power. 

So you use a portion of an opinion piece from a far left loon.as your "facts".

Not a good look.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    last year

that's not deflecting. Engage your brain and try some critical thinking. You should be able to infer what DeSantis's position is from reading just that paragraph

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    last year

try using inference and critical thinking

your insults are so cuuuutttteeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    last year

Doesn't take critical thinking to debunk a far left loon opinion piece.

And I never insulted you.

Get over yourself.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @3.1.8    last year

you're so cute when you're angry

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.10  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.9    last year

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Hallux
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3.1.11  seeder  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @3.1.10    last year

I'll have you know that Trout is jober as a sludge.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    last year

I asked for a quote after some silly claim was made about what he said.

you did not provide what was asked.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    last year

my brains asks "why would anyone lie about what he said, or did he really say what was claimed?"

I think we can all tell he didn't say what was claimed.

I am surprised you went to such great lengths to deflect.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.14  Jack_TX  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    last year
an opinion piece from a far left loon

I didn't know who she was, but good grief she's a lunatic.

She's one of those people who is so far gone she can't see sane from where she's standing.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Kavika @3    last year

“DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn…”

Enough said. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @3.2    last year
“DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn…” Enough said.

Oh, I don't know about that.

Perhaps an influx of facts would be helpful.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.2  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.1    last year

"Facts" of and by themselves are disinterested; DeSantis is not, he is intentionally pandering to a demographic he needs to win.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @3.2.2    last year

Making stupid, false claims like "DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn" hardly constitute a fact and does absolutely nothing to bolster any argument against what he is doing. It just makes people look ill-informed or like they are outright lying.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.4  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.3    last year

My comment was based entirely on your usage of the word.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @3.2.4    last year

Do you think I will fall for lies about what DeSantis has said or done?

I will not, which is why I specifically have asked for quotes for some of the more bizarre claims about him. Claims which no ne can seem to back up.

Try THOSE facts!

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.6  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.5    last year

You should know when you ask leftists for facts, you either get silence or some ambiguous comment that has nothing to do with what you ask for facts about.

Today is no different.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.7  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.5    last year
Try THOSE facts!

Sir, I must object, my screen is in Braille and all caps really hurt my fingertips, however, kudos for not using a bold font.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @3.2.6    last year
Today is no different.

You are correct.

The whole premise of claiming people said something they never did and then running away or deflecting when called out on it is really old.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @3.2.7    last year
Sir, I must object, my screen is in Braille and all caps really hurt my fingertips, however, kudos for not using a bold font.

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devangelical
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3.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @3.2.7    last year
kudos for not using a bold font

that ignorant asshole got banned, multiple times...

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.11  seeder  Hallux  replied to  devangelical @3.2.10    last year

One can be banned multiple times? I must up my game!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @3.2.10    last year

Is this off topic and of no value, or trolling, or Skirting the CoC?

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.13  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.12    last year

You appear to be the expert lately. Do digress.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.14  bugsy  replied to  afrayedknot @3.2    last year
DeSantis doesn't want the kids to learn…”

Even if this were true, (it's not), It will be a loooooooong time before Florida kids catch up with blue city/state kids when it comes to unintelligence.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    last year

This is all about the white Christian nationalist agenda, which DeSantis wants to advance. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

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George
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4.1.1  George  replied to  bugsy @4.1    last year
Removed for context

Or the rich should pay more so i don't have to pay my fair share.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5  Sparty On    last year

Many of us succeeded just fine without coursework titled like “gay studies” or “reparations 101” so I think Florida will do just fine.    But keep pushing the narrative Goebbelites

Meanwhile Florida’s population is bursting at the seams while more “enlightened” states are looking for someone to turn out the lights.

Boom, boom ...... out go the lights!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sparty On @5    last year

omg

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    last year

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bugsy
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5.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.1    last year
Removed for context

But I took you off JUST THIS ONE TIME so I can reply to you.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @5.1.2    last year

Actually, no. He's off permanent ignore and in double secret probation

Now...no more fun and games. Let's be nice to Hallux and stay on topic, boys

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.4  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.3    last year
Let's be nice to Hallux

Pshaw! It tickles when they try to be mean and anyhoot I traded in FOX's anal gazing for Al Jazeera's navel gazing on my cable.

 
 
 
George
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5.2  George  replied to  Sparty On @5    last year
 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  George @5.2    last year

Doh!

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.2  bugsy  replied to  George @5.2    last year

What we are seeing here is a MAJOR fear of a DeSantis presidency.

Someone who has similar ideas as Trump, has a successful governorship where he won by 20 percent his second term and is decades younger than Trump.

The man hasn't even proclaimed his candidacy yet..

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  George @5.2    last year

not according to Newsweek

Florida ranks 34

34. Florida

- Education index: 95.11
- Less than high school: 4.8%
- 9th to 12th grade, no diploma: 7.0%
- High school graduate or equivalent: 28.6%
- Some college, no degree: 19.9%
- Associate's degree: 9.8%
- Bachelor's degree: 18.9%
- Graduate or professional degree: 11.0%

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.4  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.3    last year

Got anything more recent than 2021?

And from a non far left resource?

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.2.5  seeder  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @5.2.4    last year

USnews and Newsweek swim in the same channel.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.3  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Sparty On @5    last year
Meanwhile Florida’s population is bursting at the seams

There are a lot of job openings for Shabbos goys to "turn out the lights". Hours are good and you can get a free B'rit.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.3.1  Sparty On  replied to  Hallux @5.3    last year

You sound well informed.    Go for it.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     last year

Actions speak louder than words. Florida outlawed the teaching of CRT and in 2022 DeSantis signed the ''Stop Woke Act'' which the courts have ruled against and most recently proposed banning funding for Black Studies at the state's colleges. 

And from the article:

This week, he signed a bill banning state spending on diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in public universities. The Post reported : “These programs often assist colleges in increasing student and faculty diversity, which can apply to race and ethnicity, as well as sexual orientation, religion and socioeconomic status.”

In each of those bans, race, slavery, and Jim Crow would have to be discussed to have an exchange of thoughts, ideas and history. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @6    last year

Nothing is stopping these subjects to be discussed.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @6.1    last year

They can't be discussed in public universities

This week, he signed a bill banning state spending on diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in public universities. The Post reported : “These programs often assist colleges in increasing student and faculty diversity, which can apply to race and ethnicity, as well as sexual orientation, religion and socioeconomic status.”
Worse: “The law also forbids public colleges from offering general education courses — which are part of the required curriculum for all college students — that ‘distort significant historical events,’ teach ‘identity politics’ or are ‘based on theories that systemic racism, sexism, oppression, or privilege are inherent in the institutions of the United States and were created to maintain social, political, or economic inequities.’”
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.1    last year

Yep...they shouldn't be teaching lies and misinformation.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.2    last year

Slavery, Jim Crow, and discrimination are lies...LOLOLOL  what world are you inhabiting?

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @6.1.3    last year
Slavery, Jim Crow, and discrimination are lies

Who said that?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
6.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @6.1.3    last year
Slavery, Jim Crow, and discrimination are lies

Everyone knows they are not lies.

It is well established that most democrats happily participated in each of these.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1.6  seeder  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @6.1.5    last year

Most democrats who "happily participated in each of these" are long dead.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Hallux @6.1.6    last year

It is also well known that the parties switched positions in the 1960s. 

 
 
 
George
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6.1.8  George  replied to  Kavika @6.1.7    last year

That’s what all the racist say, but when challenged to name 5 who changed parties they can’t. Byrd, Clinton, Wallace Biden are all still democrats.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.9  Kavika   replied to  George @6.1.8    last year
That’s what all the racist say, but when challenged to name 5 who changed parties they can’t. Byrd, Clinton, Wallace Biden are all still democrats.

My comment was that the parties switched positions, with no mention of any specific member of either party. Perhaps if I said the ideology changed it would help you understand what happened at that time. 

In 1964, Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law. In the 1964 election, Republican candidate Barry Goldwater publicly opposed the new law, arguing that it expanded the power of the federal government to a dangerous level.

It was this argument that led to a final, decisive switch. Black voters, who had historically been loyal to the Republican Party because of the 1866 Civil Rights Act, had already been switching to the Democratic Party.

However, upon hearing Goldwater’s argument against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the majority of Black voters left the Republican Party in favor of the Democrats. They saw the Democratic Party as advocates for equality and justice.

You'll find today that the majority of minority groups lean and vote Democrat.

It seems quite difficult for Republicans/conservatives to explain why the majority of minorities vote Democrat except to fall back on the old trope of ''it's the free stuff''....

Today the Democrat party is known as the liberal party and the Republicans are known as the conservative party and huge switch from their positions prior to 1960.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.1    last year
They can't be discussed in public universities

Of course that is totally false.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.10    last year

Of course it is but ..... gotta push the narrative.

Push it!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.11    last year

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.12    last year

Push it real good!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.13    last year

looks like some liberals like to tell stories fed to them by weasels in the media.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.14    last year

Classic propaganda tactic.

Tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth.

For mindless lemmings that is.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.15    last year

I know!

some claim the stupidest things imaginable and then get offended when it is pointed out.

And why are so many so gullible?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.17  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.16    last year

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Hallux
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6.1.18  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.16    last year
And why are so many so gullible?

That comes with partisanship and you are far from being immune.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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6.1.19  afrayedknot  replied to  Hallux @6.1.18    last year

“…far from being immune.”

…light years…

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @6.1.18    last year

point out what you think I am gullible about.

support your claim.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.21  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.20    last year

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Texan1211
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6.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @6.1.21    last year

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devangelical
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6.1.23  devangelical  replied to  afrayedknot @6.1.19    last year

... next universe to the right.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.24  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.22    last year
Stump a Liberal"!!!

One of the easiest things to do!!!

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.25  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @6.1.24    last year

we're still waiting for that demonstration...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7  Drinker of the Wry    last year

Make students ignorant?

US students are already ignorant in comparison to many other countries in math, science and reading,

As our workers are higher paid than those in most of the countries out scoring us, our workers are increasingly less competitive.

We have an increasing teacher shortage.

So why not demand our teachers teach more outside of math, science and history?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
7.1  Sparty On  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7    last year

Why not indeed!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
8  Jack_TX    last year

Lookie here, a wee culture war post to excite leftyland into thinking the sky is falling.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Jack_TX @8    last year

I could quote some here from the right claiming that it has fallen.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Hallux @8.1    last year

One thing that’s falling for sure.   Test scores.

Hooray liberal union teachers!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9  Tacos!    last year

They’re going full “nut bag” in Florida, crafting solutions in search of problems.

“The law also forbids public colleges from offering general education courses — which are part of the required curriculum for all college students — that ‘distort significant historical events,’ teach ‘identity politics’ or are ‘based on theories that systemic racism, sexism, oppression, or privilege are inherent in the institutions of the United States and were created to maintain social, political, or economic inequities.’”

Institutions like the 3/5 compromise? Like slavery? Like Jim Crow? Like Alien & Sedition Act? Like Dred Scott? Like segregation? Like Chinese Exclusion? Like Japanese internment camps? Like a century and a half of male-only suffrage? Like housing discrimination? I mean SHIT you can go on and on. WTF are going to teach in these fantasy courses?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @9    last year
They’re going full “nut bag” in Florida, crafting solutions in search of problems.

that's easier for them than solving the real problems.

 
 
 
RU4Real
Freshman Silent
10  RU4Real    last year

Have a question for some on this thread:

It seems the argument for the republican party has always been anti-big government, i.e. a government that is overly controlling, over-reaching, telling people how to live their personal lives, pushing some "religious" belief onto the masses.  Yet, DeSantis and others are doing just that, yet some here have no problem with it.

My question is, why in this instance do you see no problem with what is obviously an over-reaching person with governing power telling the people of FL what to do, what they can learn, what they can't learn, read, take in school?

I mean, is it that you are the exact same type of person as DeSantis?  Have his same f'd up thinking, even if he is "pandering" to the racist dumbasses in Florida?  And how long before he starts believing his own hype, if he hasn't already?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
10.1  devangelical  replied to  RU4Real @10    last year

republicans proclaiming one thing while doing the exact opposite is normal for them.

 
 

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