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Robert in Ohio

Dream Team or simply a Shit Show

  
By:  Robert in Ohio  •  life choices  •  3 weeks ago  •  73 comments

Dream Team or simply a Shit Show
Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who voted to find Trump guilty at his second impeachment trial during his first term, said "I don't think this is a serious nomination for the attorney general."

A simple survey on the latest announced cabinet picks

1.  Is it a dream team or a shit show?

2.  Which pick shocked you more than all the others?

3.  Which of the nominees do you think will fail to get 50 votes in the Senate?

4.  Is this "shock and awe" so that when some of these picks are withdrawn, the replacement nominee will look so much better that they will sail through confirmation?

Red Box Rules

Just answer the questions - no need to rehash why the picks are great or horrible depending on your side of the fence

Do not denigrate other responders, be civil

Polls can be won


 

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Robert in Ohio
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1  author  Robert in Ohio    3 weeks ago

1. With the exception of Rubio for Secy of State it is a Shit Show with (capital S's)

2.   Gaetz with Hegseth a fairly close 2nd place

3.  Gaetz for sure in my view, in fact I think he will be withdrawn by Trump

4.  I think there could be a little of "shock and awe" tactics at play here

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    3 weeks ago
2.   Gaetz with Hegseth a fairly close 2nd place

3.  Gaetz for sure in my view, in fact I think he will be withdrawn by Trump

4.  I think there could be a little of "shock and awe" tactics at play here

So a sexual predator has nominated a pedophile for attorney general.  MAGA!!!!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 weeks ago
MAGA!!!!

major assholes getting analized ...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.2  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 weeks ago

So a sexual predator has nominated a pedophile for attorney general.  MAGA!!!!

I hope the Senators see it the same way and block this appointment

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
I hope the Senators see it the same way and block this appointment

Gaetz is almost as disliked as Cruz is throughout Congress.  He also has an ethics investigation.  But they very well do what Trump tells them to do while they are groveling at his feet.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.4  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Ozzwald

Th Trump fear factor is certainly an issue, but I think there are some Senators (enough) that will draw a line in the sand and this is too much and will just say no

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
Th Trump fear factor is certainly an issue, but I think there are some Senators (enough) that will draw a line in the sand

Some Senators, yes (democrat ones).  But republican Senators have yet to show enough balls to stand against him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    3 weeks ago

Shitshow fer sure

Dream team?  Fucking nightmare is more like it - including that traitor being 're-elected'

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

That's funny.  Not a single republican who backs the traitor would do so because they're culpable.

You're funny.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

Who is the traitor?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
republican Senators have yet to show enough balls to stand against him

their nuts can only descend from their body cavity when it's a secret ballot ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

Someone sounds like a broken record, or is it a parrot?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    3 weeks ago

Nothing but PD and D

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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1.1.12  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

Tessylo

I'm funny and you are uninformed on what the Republican senators will or will not do

So I guess we will both have to wait and see

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

Uninformed.  Yeah, right.

A shitshow of epic proportions.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

their nuts can only descend from their body cavity when it's a secret ballot ...

I have seen no evidence to support that.  Their nuts are firmly fixed in whichever cavity Trump tells them to put them in.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    3 weeks ago

I would not be surprised if Trump is doing this to lower the bar.   

With the spineless current members of the GOP, this is likely to work.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 weeks ago

I don't see how the maga bar could get much lower ...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Me either though the traitor surely will find a way.......

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.3  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

Who is the traitor?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.2.4  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @1.2    3 weeks ago

“I would not be surprised if Trump is doing this to lower the bar.”

As the ultimate power broker, he could not care less about anything in reference to lowering a bar…only concerned in what bars his self serving agenda, only in what bars him from defining his self serving legacy, and ultimately, only in the bars he is trying to avoid. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

With Gaetz, I think Trump might have hit rock bottom.   But who knows, maybe he will put Marjorie Taylor Greene in charge of controlling the weather.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.6  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    3 weeks ago

I think she's going to be liason to the Israeli space agency.....

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.7  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @1.2.3    3 weeks ago
Who is the traitor?

trump. the guy you swore an oath to defend the constitution from, the domestic enemy you voted for ...

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.8  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @1.2.7    3 weeks ago

When did he commit treason?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

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Robert in Ohio
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3  author  Robert in Ohio    3 weeks ago

I look forward to everyone's thoughts on this important issue

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3    3 weeks ago

Then why did you have John's comment/thought deleted?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tessylo @3.1    3 weeks ago

It was off topic and I noted it thusly

You should discuss it with the moderators if you have concerns

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

If you say so

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

The comment he had deleted was directly responsive to the questions he asked in the seeded article. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

Of course it was.

A lot of folks around here delete them, or have them deleted, just because they don't like them.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

I’m fine with everyone except gaetz. I think Rubio is the cream of the crop with  Homan not far behind.  The rest would all get at least Bs.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 weeks ago

Fun gaetz fact.  Morning joe was suspended from msnbc for donating to his campaign in 2010.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    3 weeks ago

what qualifies tulsi gabbard to be in charge of american intelligence agencies? no one will trust her. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.2.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    3 weeks ago

I totally agree with you on Gabbard

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

I have to say this, but OMG, if Gaetz gets the position. I'm fine with Rubio. So many of them are just unqualified for the job—they have no experience. Someone out of college would be just as qualified, which is not a good statement.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5    3 weeks ago
So many of them are just unqualified for the job

Trump's 2nd term =  Second verse, same as the first, another Trump administration with a revolving door.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1    3 weeks ago

I don't think so. I think his first administration picked people who were qualified but eventually disagreed with him, which is why he kicked them out. This time, he is picking people who are loyal to him, and that is all that matters to him. 

Btw, I love the meme

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.1.2  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1    3 weeks ago

Ozzwald 

Even if that is true (and it probably is) that tis bad for the country and many of this group should be in office even for a day - hopefully cooler heads in the Senate will "Just Say No"

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
I don't think so. I think his first administration picked people who were qualified but eventually disagreed with him, which is why he kicked them out. This time, he is picking people who are loyal to him, and that is all that matters to him.

I hope you are wrong.  The only thing that saved us from his 1st administration was its overwhelming incompetence.  And so far, many of those picks indicate that he is simply rewarding his sycophants with positions which they are not qualified for.  Can we say Rick Perry.....

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
his first administration picked people who were qualified

... uh, 7 cabinet members that were either under investigation, referred to the DOJ for criminal prosecution, or resigned in disgrace. lawfare! boo hoo hoo hoo ...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5    3 weeks ago

Perrie

I am in line with your thoughts - Rubio is a pretty good choice for State, but there are serious "not qualified" flags to be thrown on many of the others and Gaetz and Hegseth are totally unqualified for the positions they were nominated for.  Hopefully enough of the Senators see it the same way to block these  appointments.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5.2    3 weeks ago
Rubio is a pretty good choice for State

I wouldn't go that fat.  Let's just say that there could have been worse choices for Secretary or State, or if you really want to pump him up say that at least it wasn't MTG.......

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    3 weeks ago

The questions ignore the possibility of political maneuvering.  Trump really does have a mandate within the Republican Party.  So, it's politically unwise to refuse Trump.  Trump can use that mandate to shape the Republican controlled Congress.

It's quite possible that Trump offered Gaetz the AG post just to get him out of the way.  Gaetz can't repeat what he did to Kevin McCarthy.  House Republicans owe Trump a political debt for giving Gaetz an easy out.

Hegseth is a political message to a politicized Defense Department.  If the damned generals want to play politics to resist Trump's agenda then Trump will oblige.  Liberals attacked Trump over anti-DEI positions last time.  So, Hegseth is as serious as has been DEI politics in the military.  

Trump is playing bare naked politics because he doesn't need to care what anyone thinks.  Trump is preemptively attacking the political Resistance in the bureaucracy.  Trump's gonna hit the Resistance before they have a chance to do anything.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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6.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Nerm_L @6    3 weeks ago

I applaud Hegseth's service to our country

BUT

Having commanded nothing larger than an Infantry Company leaves him hopelessly unqualified to lead the department of Defense

jmo

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.1    3 weeks ago

Absolutely agree. With numerous family members, both men and women, who have served this land, dating back to the Civil War, Hegseth's level of service does not in any way qualify him to head the US DOD. 

I feel it is a huge disgrace and insult to our men and women in uniform who lay their lives on the line for their country and its people, to put them in the hands of such a totally unqualified leader.

However, Trumps selecting Hegseth for such a very serious and highly important position only indicates to me that Trump, who has never dared to serve in the military, only sees our military personnel as nothing more that mere fodder for the battleground, with the obligation to make him look like a famous leader.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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6.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.1    3 weeks ago

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Snuffy
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6.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6.1    3 weeks ago

I agree with that. But the left-leaning media seems more upset that Trump didn't nominate someone who is already owned by the military-industry complex. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @6.1.2    3 weeks ago

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bugsy
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6.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.4    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @6.1.2    3 weeks ago

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devangelical
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6.1.7  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @6.1.5    3 weeks ago

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bugsy
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6.1.8  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @6.1.7    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1.7    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
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6.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.9    3 weeks ago

Gee, why post if you have all the comments removed?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Trump is preemptively attacking the political Resistance in the bureaucracy.  Trump's gonna hit the Resistance before they have a chance to do anything.

that explains a lot. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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7.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 weeks ago
Trump is preemptively attacking the political Resistance in the bureaucracy.  Trump's gonna hit the Resistance before they have a chance to do anything.

An old boss of mine always said that the best way to prevent having to defend is to put in the offense first.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7.1.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1    3 weeks ago

Trump reminds me more of a carpenter ho owns only one tool "a hammer" and everything looks like a nail but nothing gets built that will last.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

1.  Is it a dream team or a shit show? Yes

2.  Which pick shocked you more than all the others? Matt Gaetz... who else?

3.  Which of the nominees do you think will fail to get 50 votes in the Senate? Matt is the winner again

4.  Is this "shock and awe" so that when some of these picks are withdrawn, the replacement nominee will look so much better that they will sail through confirmation? absolutely. Matt will be out and someone a little more palatable will be nominated. I just don't know whom

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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8.1  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Trout Giggles @8    3 weeks ago

T G 

Thanks for understanding the request and giving cogent answers 

Perhaps Gaetz will not be the only one "returned to sender" by the Senate

We can hope

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Robert in Ohio @8.1    3 weeks ago

It was an easy assignment

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

Kennedy is supposedly hhs. He was a loon when Obama considered him for the job and is a loon now.  Bad pick.

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 weeks ago

Probably but a hell of a lot better than this...

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Sean Treacy
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9.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  bugsy @9.1    3 weeks ago

100% which is why I'm not too upset about it.

 
 
 
George
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9.2  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 weeks ago

If he makes our food more like Europe's i'm good with that. but his stance on vaccines needs some work.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  George @9.2    3 weeks ago

We agree on that

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  George @9.2    3 weeks ago
food more like Europe's i'm good with that. but his stance on vaccines needs some work.

I agree. I just hope he focuses on the right issues and doesn't get lost down a rabbit hole with nutters on things like vaccines. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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9.2.3  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2.2    3 weeks ago
I agree. I just hope he focuses on the right issues and doesn't get lost down a rabbit hole with nutters on things like vaccines. 

Sean

I fear that the likelihood that he gets lost down a rabbit hole is above 90%

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Robert in Ohio @9.2.3    3 weeks ago
e likelihood that he gets lost down a rabbit hole is above 90%

I hope you are wrong, but I wish I were more confident that you were.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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9.3  author  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    3 weeks ago
Kennedy is supposedly hhs. He was a loon when Obama considered him for the job and is a loon now.  Bad pick.

Sean

I agree with you, I think RFK Jr can do a lot more harm than good and he is absolutely a bad choice for HHS

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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9.3.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Robert in Ohio @9.3    3 weeks ago
and he is absolutely a bad choice for HHS

Totally agree. With him in charge of the HHS we may see another serious COVID-19 outbreak here in America, which could mean many more deaths at all levels.

Could be that if one of his own family should be seriously ill from the COVID variations he would suddenly be in favor of the vaccines. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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10  author  Robert in Ohio    3 weeks ago

I saw this cartoon and it seemed an apt addition to the discussion thread - 

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