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Abdul El-Sayed Campaigns With Louis Farrakhan’s Antisemitic ‘Student Minister’ Who Recently Pushed Conspiracy Theory That Jews Ran the Slave Trade

  

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Abdul El-Sayed Campaigns With Louis Farrakhan’s Antisemitic ‘Student Minister’ Who Recently Pushed Conspiracy Theory That Jews Ran the Slave Trade

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Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed continues to double down on his public associations with antisemites, campaigning Thursday alongside a Nation of Islam "student minister" and acolyte of the antisemitic group's longtime leader, Louis Farrakhan, who has referred to Jews as "termites" and praised Adolf Hitler.

The left-wing Democrat appeared with Marcus Muhammad at a get-out-the-vote rally in Benton Harbor, where Muhammad serves as mayor. "Allow me to introduce the next United States Senator representing the State of Michigan," Muhammad wrote ina  caption of a photo with a much shorter El-Sayed.

Muhammad, despite his mayoral responsibilities, has not shied away from promoting Farrakhan's virulently antisemitic conspiracy theories. He recently  promoted a video of Farrakhan discussing The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews Vol. 2 , a pseudoscientific Nation of Islam work that claims Jews controlled the transatlantic slave trade.

It comes as El-Sayed faces mounting criticism from moderate and Jewish Democrats in the closing days of the pivotal Senate race over his anti-Israel remarks and what former Michigan Democratic Party chairman Lon Johnson recently called "his reluctance to unequivocally condemn dangerous rhetoric" against Jews.

Rep. Haley Stevens, who narrowly lost to El-Sayed in the Democratic primary in August, issued a remarkable statement  on Friday saying she had accepted an invitation from her mentor, Rep. Jim Clyburn (D., S.C.), to appear alongside El-Sayed given his "expected condemnation" of an antisemitic ad produced on his behalf by Cenk Uygur, Hasan Piker's uncle, that blamed Jews for rising grocery prices. But she assailed El-Sayed for his response to the ad thus far and suggested that she is conditioning her appearance at the Sunday event on his public disavowal of the ad.

"For days, Abdul's only answer to the Rebellion PAC advertisement produced by Hasan Piker's uncle, Cenk Uygur, was that his campaign was 'not affiliated' with it. ... I have learned from Democratic Party leaders and emissaries, as reported in the news media, that Dr. El-Sayed has heard the deep concerns of the Jewish community and is now, for the first time in his campaign, formally condemning that ad for what it is."


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    one week ago

He seems to enjoy making a fool out of his defenders. At least the non islamic radicals he panders to.  He just continuously rubs their nose in evidence of his racism and they grin and deny it. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    one week ago

After extensive discussion with my editorial and research assistant, I have settled on:

 
He just continuously rubs their nose in evidence of his racism and they grin and deny it.

I wonder how many MAGA supporters are continuously rubbing Donald’s nose in their dirty ass-cracks of white nationalist racist tropes, and whether you apply the same standard to him that you are applying to El-Sayed.

The man introducing El-Sayed was the mayor of the town where he was campaigning. That does not excuse the mayor’s antisemitism or put El-Sayed’s judgment beyond scrutiny. But it supplies relevant context. If you want to call this evidence of El-Sayed’s own racism, establish what he said, endorsed, or knowingly supported. The mayor’s beliefs do not become his by introduction.

Consider Trump hosting Nick Fuentes and Kanye West for dinner at Mar-a-Lago . Fuentes has a public record of white nationalist and antisemitic statements. Trump said he had invited West and did not know Fuentes, whom West brought along. Does that explanation deserve consideration? Then the circumstances of El-Sayed’s appearance deserve consideration too. The situations are not identical. The obligation to examine context before attributing someone else’s prejudices to a candidate is the same.

We also have photographs of Trump shaking hands with Putin , and Kushner doing the same with Witkoff nearby . Those are diplomatic encounters, which differ from campaign appearances. Precisely: the photograph requires an explanation of the relationship and circumstances. It cannot establish shared beliefs by itself.

And the last paragraph of your own excerpt quotes Stevens saying she has been informed that El-Sayed is formally condemning the advertisement his campaign had denied involvement with. That does not settle the separate question about Muhammad, and you can criticize the timing or adequacy of the response. But it deserves consideration before you portray his defenders as simply denying everything.

Trump’s conduct does not excuse El-Sayed’s. The comparison tests your standard. Criticizing a candidate’s judgment in accepting someone’s support is one argument. Declaring that association evidence of the candidate’s personal racism is another. You have asserted the second without establishing the connection.

You might want to reconsider your reading and posting preferences. A political hit piece can give you plenty of material for suspicion and insinuation. You still have to distinguish what its evidence establishes from what it encourages you to believe.

 
 
 
CB
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2  CB    one week ago

What do you wish Michiganders to do? Hold their noses while they vote to have checks and balances in government again (as designed by the constitution) or should we just let 'Stampy' Rogers go to congress and serve Trump for two years of a six year term? What do you want them to do?!

What is truly telling is at no point and time are MAGA supporters-supporting checks and balance governance over the executive branch. Why is that?! I ask because that is one of the reasons republicans are facing probable defeat this midterm. . . y'all "know it alls" tune out voters. . . until your aggressive natures leave y'all pleading with hats in hand. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2    one week ago
Hold their noses while they vote to have checks and balances in government again (as designed by the constitution) or should we just let 'Stampy' Rogers go to congress and serve Trump for two years of a six year term?

I am pretty sure the dems don't need this piece of shit racist in order to have checks and balances after this election.  They should stick to the principles they spend so  much time and effort trying to convince people they have and kick this guy to the gutter where he belongs.  If this is where the dem party is headed real patriots need to reject them until they right their own ship.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.1  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1    one week ago

Define "real patriot" in context of this discussion, please. And snark won't make the 'cut.' 

And for the record, personally I think perfect people/candidates are not going to be easy to find. . . or just do not want the 'headache,' 'heartache,' and bullsh-t that comes with politics right now. So candidate choice is what it is.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.1.1    one week ago
Define "real patriot" in context of this discussion, please.

Someone who feels deep loyalty, pride, and devotion to their homeland.

And snark won't make the 'cut.' 

O ye of little faith

And for the record, personally I think perfect people/candidates are not going to be easy to find. . . or just do not want the 'headache,' 'heartache,' and bullsh-t that comes with politics right now. So candidate choice is what it is.

Agree.  I have been saying that for years.  It has gotten down to the lesser of two evils.  IMO Rogers fits that description and El-Sayed isn't in the same ballpark. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.3  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.2    one week ago
Someone who feels deep loyalty, pride, and devotion to their homeland

Define loyalty, pride, and devotion. . . and why you think that a republican MAGA supporter has it in 'spades' and those you otherize do not. Because as of right now the comment seems ripe with bigotry.

And no, I know limited information about El Sayed (being out west) and from my perspective I speak to the general narrative of fearmongering that is occurring over his race and ethnicity by a republican party that is using identity politics selectively when it is in its self-interest.

 
 
 
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2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.1.3    one week ago
and why you think that a republican MAGA supporter has it in 'spades' and those you otherize do not.

Where on earth did you get that from?

Because as of right now the comment seems ripe with bigotry.

It seems you are seeing things that arent there.  Maybe you just want it to be there.  One can always find something if they look hard enough and ignore reality.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.5  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.4    one week ago

So. . . no attempt to define loyalty, pride, and devotion (in your own words)? Just proceed to 'new horizons,' eh?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.1.5    one week ago

That would be correct. The rest of your comment shows it is not worth a serious reply. 

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.7  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.6    one week ago

Yeah, "new horizons" dodge noted.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.1.3    one week ago
I know limited information about El Sayed

Willful ignorance noted

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.9  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.8    one week ago

Ditto.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.2    one week ago
Someone who feels deep loyalty, pride, and devotion to their homeland.

El-Sayed was born in Rochester Hills, Michigan. He went to the University of Michigan and earned a degree in biology and political science then went on to Oriel College, University of Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar, earning a doctorate in public health and then graduated Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons, where he earned his M.D.

Where else would El-Sayed's "homeland" be other than Michigan and America? Is he not an American to you? Please tell us all why you believe Roger's is somehow superior to his fellow American citizen and educated Doctor El-Sayed. Why wouldn't El-Sayed "even be in the same ballpark" when he grew up playing on American baseball fields just like Rogers did?

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.11  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.10    one week ago

MAGA supporters can't do it. Loyalty, pride, and devotion means "them" to them.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  CB @2    one week ago
What do you wish Michiganders to do?

They can first not believe the bullshit rhetoric these slime ball bigots are slinging. These weak whiny tired little bigots have nothing so they scream and yell about slandered immigrants and make disparate connections to terrorists or some evil where there are none because they're scared. They're tiny weak likely white poorly educated conservative Christian bigots who don't know any better than to attack the things they're irrationally afraid of and have been told by their pastors are out to get them.

What do you want them to do?!

Vote. Get out and vote for the candidate that actually has a message you like and feel you can believe in, don't listen to the scum, the liars, the weak garbage ideology xenophobes desperate to recruit others into their fantasy war on Islam.

What is truly telling is at no point and time are MAGA supporters-supporting checks and balance governance over the executive branch. Why is that?!

Checks and balances, fairness, truth, these are all threats to their rightwing conservative control and ability to wage their ignorant holy war against Islam. These are not honest people, they are liars and cheats, they are scum of the earth, but they think their base will support them anyway because they claim they're white conservative Christians, and for frightened, manipulated gullible idiots, that's enough.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.1  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2    one week ago

Do these bigoted Christians realize that God  (their spiritual head) hears and sees their political lies, lacking of integrity, and abuses of Others? 

In any case, the mid-terms is (thankfully) about to come to a conclusion!

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.2  Thomas  replied to  CB @2.2.1    one week ago
Do these bigoted Christians realize that God  (their spiritual head) hears and sees their political lies, lacking of integrity, and abuses of Others? 

I do not think that they realize that much, including the fact that when  they reach for their pearly gates, they might well be turned away.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.2.1    one week ago
se bigoted Christians realize that God

Funny you call others bigots as you somehow turn this story into an excuse to bash Christians. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.4  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    one week ago
Funny you call others bigots as you somehow turn this story into an excuse to bash Christians. 

I think he is only criticizing those who mistakenly interpret this as a call to action

 
 
 
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2.2.5  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @2.2.2    one week ago
t think that

Right.. Christians will be denied heaven for noticing blatantly antisemitic behavior.  For most progressives, It' seems its not the actual bigotry that's the problem, it's noticing the bigotry..

Do you notice not one progressive has taken any issue with these batshit crazy antisemitic conspiracy theories?  In case anyone was wondering how progressives rallied to support a guy with a literal Nazi tattooo.,.

 
 
 
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2.2.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @2.2.4    one week ago
es who freely interpret this who mistakenly interpret this as a call to action.

Exactly. Noticing incredibly bigoted behavior and opposing it is beyond the pale. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.7  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    one week ago

Sean, let me remove any ambiguity: the claim that Jews controlled the transatlantic slave trade is false and antisemitic. The American Historical Association has expressly rejected claims of disproportionate Jewish involvement . Anyone promoting that conspiracy theory deserves criticism.

There. Does that answer your question about whether someone on this side of the discussion will condemn it?

Now distinguish the propositions. Muhammad promoting antisemitism is one claim. El-Sayed sharing or endorsing that antisemitism is another. Evidence supporting the first does not automatically establish the second.

You can reasonably question El-Sayed’s judgment in accepting Muhammad’s public support. I have already acknowledged that. But you called this evidence of El-Sayed’s own racism, then characterized people questioning that conclusion as defenders of bigotry. Asking you to establish the connection is not an endorsement of the conspiracy theory.

Nor does invoking “most progressives” or introducing another person’s alleged tattoo establish anything about El-Sayed’s beliefs. If you have evidence that he endorsed these statements, present it. Otherwise, you are treating disagreement with your conclusion as agreement with someone else’s prejudice.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.8  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.3    one week ago

Bigoted Christians need bashing and a spotlight Sean. How else will they learn the 'straight and narrow'?

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.9  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    one week ago

You know, we can't note the incredibly bigoted behavior here on NT because it is against the COC and the Terms of Whatever. Be it known that without your participation in this site, that the frequency and severity of these occurrences would be far less.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.10  CB  replied to  Thomas @2.2.2    one week ago

They will learn the true meaning of 'good and faithful' servant (and it ain't 'self-server')!

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.11  CB  replied to  Thomas @2.2.4    one week ago

I am perfectly comfortable calling out bigoted Christians that are greedy and self-serving while making living awful for others whom wish nothing to do with them. :) :) :)

In fact, I wish we spent more time around here talking to so-called Christian-conservatives about matters of faith! Alas, they 'hide' in plain sight from 'testimonies' - likely because they doubt if they can defend the horrendous sh-t they charge others to do simply because they do it.

 
 
 
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2.2.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Thomas @2.2.7    one week ago
Now distinguish the propositions. Muhammad promoting antisemitism is one claim. El-Sayed sharing or endorsing that antisemitism is another. Evidence supporting the first does not automatically establish the second.

I find it so damn amazing, wear asz so many can connect so many invisible dots and construe an elaborate and extensively complicated while completely seemingly coordinated almost absolute conclusion, all while based on basically an illusion, that fore far too many with thin skin in the game, just can't seem to muster up their shame, and that, is what it is, a shame. For these same fore skin crinkled wrinkled dingleberry strewn dread locked heirs whom can't seem to split from watt heard spit, something potentially real, from what is swallowed from the orifice in office, asz he has shown ther is no end zone too far, to not finish in a jar at the Bank of Wales, where swimmin sailors go to dye their hair apparent orphaned buy the adoption, where as facts and evidence are just a silly option, and I find, options to be optional as well, but, WTF already more need be obsceen from the White Power Pedo files underage wet dream team supreme, smathered in the proximity of ole Jeffy's reported best bud, and puller of Bubba's PUD, the current potUStates he doesn't even know Jeffy, or, maybe he went to go get me and the chicks some coffee and hot coco, for the ones old enuff to buy cigs at Sunoco, cause this pedo theory pushin Dr. Leary eyed pinhead cushion gang who can connect the invisible dots till they sea a see of striped spots, can't quite spot, the guy Meagan lists as one of the Tops mentioned in the defiles defile, but nothing to see here, maybe in a little while...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.5    one week ago
Do you notice not one progressive has taken any issue with these batshit crazy antisemitic conspiracy theories?

That's likely because El-Sayed hasn't actually made any batshit crazy antisemitic conspiracy theory claims. The Free Beacon is manipulating poorly educated bigots' brains with disparate facts cobbled together with the thinnest of ties and heaps of conjecture that I'm sure looks scary to any half-wit so it's no wonder Trump supporters are triggered. But anyone with more than half a brain can see right through their horse shit xenophobic smear which is why you're not going to find any progressives making hay of it.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.14  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @2.2.9    one week ago

[✘] It is eminently reasonable to ask Abdul el-Sayed about his ongoing relationships with extreme racists and religious extremists.

but go ahead, feel free to make us all laugh and tell us you would be calling it bigotry for any progressive to criticize a white conservative who voluntarily campaigns with and attends banquets honoring self admitted American hating racists who spread kkk level racist conspiracies.

[✘] you [✘] object to [✘] criticism of democrats.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.15  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.2.8    one week ago

Bigoted Christians need bashing and a spotlight Sean

but not bigoted Muslims? Do you believe Muslims are inherently bigoted and can’t be held to the same standard? Why don’t you simply treat people the same regardless of religion?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.14    one week ago

I was watching a video of a "debate" between Tim Miller of The Bulwark and two guys from the Charlie Kirk Show. (Yes the Charlie Kirk Show lives on because what would it be without the name) . Miller wanted to talk about affordability, the war in Iran, Trump corruption,  and ICE,  and one of the Charlie Kirk guys wanted to talk about how whites are victims of racism.   

It's nuts. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.17  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    one week ago
Exactly. Noticing incredibly bigoted behavior and opposing it is beyond the pale. 

Wasn't it the Christians who wiped out almost every Jew in Europe in the late 1300's? Yep. 

I'm sorry, what was that you were saying about bigoted behavior?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.15    one week ago
but not bigoted Muslims? Do you believe Muslims are inherently bigoted and can’t be held to the same standard?

Are there Muslim candidates claiming voters shouldn't vote for a Christian because of their Christian faith?

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Where is the counterpart campaign ad from El-Sayed to match this slogan in a republican campaign ad?

" Radical Islam is incompatible with the West."
Growing number of GOP candidates are using anti-Muslim rhetoric on the campaign trail : NPR

There is only one side claiming that the entire religious group of their opponents can't be trusted and you shouldn't vote for them, and it's not the side with Muslim candidates on the left. They all welcome any open-minded diversity supporting Christians into their party and into their campaigns with open arms.

Republicans have become the party of hate and exclusion and demand the small percent of diversity among them assimilate into their culture in all things and kneel to their white Christian patriarchs. The Democrats are the party of inclusion and welcome those of all cultures and faiths and welcomes Christians since about half of them identify as Christian. So even if some Democrats, which I'm sure they do, still harbor some bigotry towards one group or another, often towards those who continue to lie about them and slander them, overall Democrats are attempting to be inclusive and invite all Americans to participate in governing as our founders intended.

I think at its core the friction between the two sides in America is between those who love the vibrant diversity, growth and ideas that other people, races and cultures bring to our country, so they welcome all to the party regardless of social status or background. Versus the other side where we have the white conservative Christians who have been working tirelessly to keep America looking and feeling like it did just after WWII.

That was when we were the manufacturing center of the world (since the rest of the worlds manufacturing was mostly in rubble) and white Christian males who made it home from the war were considered heroes and had the keys to the kingdom laid at their feet (in stark contrast to how returning black G.I.'s were treated). But that was the world at its peak for them and that's what the MAGA Republicans are desperate to return to, where the world was at their feet and no one questioned them when they 'take a little extra off the top'.

Allowing Muslims to be their legislators and make laws and decide things for many MAGA is simply unthinkable. These soft cowardly conservative bigots wish to return to the days of everyone just assuming they were the best choice for the job, the best choice for management, best choice for the raise, best choice for candidate. And they're outraged anyone would suggest otherwise and so they scream "reverse racism!" like the pathetic whiny losers they are.

I do have to say though, I've always enjoyed watching self-righteous entitled pricks get hit in the face with the karma they've built throughout their lives so seeing MAGA Republicans get curb-stomped in this mid-term does illicit a sense of justice being done which isn't unenjoyable.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.19  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.15    one week ago

I will call out bigoted "anybody" when the proverbial shoe fit. In this discussion bigoted Christians is the issue. And the rest of your 'questioning' is moot. BTW, related to the topic and for illustration Jewish people can be bigoted too.

 
 
 
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2.2.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  CB @2.2.19    one week ago
I will call out bigoted "anybody" when the proverbial shoe fit.

And often even if it doesn't fit it would seem.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.21  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.17    one week ago
sn't it the Christians who wiped out almost every Jew in Europe in the late 1300's? Yep. 

Lol. Who, who do you imagine supports that  in 2026? 

 
 
 
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2.2.22  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.18    one week ago
candidates claiming voters shouldn't vote for a Christian because of their Christian faith?

Do you not read your own posts, or this site? 

It speaks volumes that  you equate  Al-Sayed's support for a terrorist organization and virulent  racists as indistinguishable from the Muslim faith though. Makes my point for me. 

 
 
 
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2.2.23  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @2.2.19    one week ago
In this discussion bigoted Christians is the issue

The actual topic of discussion: 

Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed continues to double down on his public associations with antisemites, campaigning Thursday alongside a Nation of Islam "student minister" and acolyte of the antisemitic group's longtime leader, Louis Farrakhan, who has referred to Jews as "termites" and praised Adolf Hitler.
 
 
 
CB
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2.2.24  CB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.20    one week ago

256

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.25  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.23    one week ago

And yet Trump is out on the campaign trail flapping his 'ugly' gums punching down and all you can do is ask the 'poor' Muslim to fold his arms across his chest and not defend himself from aggression?! And what the heck is a "student minister" anyway. . .and why is he important enough for you to be attempting to make a big deal of? Scraping the bottom of the tank two days out from the midterms. . .is desperation no matter who is doing it! Shame on the Shameless!

 
 
 
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2.2.26  devangelical  replied to  CB @2.2.25    one week ago

it seems trump only likes muslims that gift him $400 million dollar jets, or help him launder money ...

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.27  CB  replied to  devangelical @2.2.26    one week ago

And, that is the (profanity word here - use imagination) about it, these bigots are letting their freaky bigot flag fly as if Muslims everywhere are not reading and hearing them weaponizing hatred of others to get leverage. It plays to an element people can not argue against. . . who they identify as. . . .

And these bigots are the first ones to complain and cry holy hell and torches when someone calls out what they are doing!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.28  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.22    one week ago
Do you not read your own posts, or this site?

I have no problem with Christians running for office, but I only support the ones who actually follow the constitution and don't try to force their faith on others through legislation. Those are the slimy fuckers I talk about that are constantly trying to force their prayers, commandments and their sick twisted version of white Jesus into everything they touch whether it's our public schools, libraries, courthouses or government. Those fuckers need to practice their faith, be examples if they want to. Don't have abortions, don't cheat on their spouses, don't get divorced, live the trad wife trad life if you want to. Just don't try to force that on everyone else by banning abortion, banning gay marriage, banning transgender use of public restrooms or school restrooms, banning books that normalize gay parents, banning tax dollars going to any groups that hire lgtbq citizens, passing laws allowing the firing or eviction of lgtbq Americans, these are ALL examples of the scum bag religious conservatives I'm sick and tired of. Fuck those Christians.

But if you're a Christian who follows the bible and tries to be Christlike, humble, turn the other cheek, meek that will inherit the earth setting an example of faith and relying on your God to punish his own enemies and realizing its not even your job to identify Gods enemies since that would be monumentally arrogant, then I have no problem with you. There are many Christians who actually live their faith and don't try to turn society around them into some Christian conversion mechanism, you just rarely find them among rightwing conservative Christians who are largely taught they're the superior race and superior religion and they're supposed to go out and dominate in the name of Jesus who, if the Jesus I read about ever met them would say, " ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" - Matthew 7:23

It speaks volumes that  you equate  Al-Sayed's support for a terrorist organization and virulent  racists as indistinguishable from the Muslim faith though.

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First, you would have to actually prove he supports a terrorist organization and virulent racists. Just because some lame fuck wads throw those labels around on anything and everything that refuses to submit to white Christian rule doesn't mean they're actually terrorists committing terrorist acts. For many apparently having a gun in your own home in the middle east is a terrorist act while its a patriotic duty here. I don't listen to fucked up definitions from whacko rage bigots.

Second, the only reason the desperate dumb shit bigots are looking for even the thinnest of connections and drawing all these stupid crazy conspiracy theory ties to El-Sayed is because he's Muslim! That's it. That's all it takes. So yes, all the noise and bullshit that is being kicked up by the brainless scared shitless xenophobes is a direct attack and rebuke on Islam and Muslims in general. The idea that El-Sayed is somehow secretly supporting terrorists or supports terrorist ideals and that nonsense because of a few handshakes or banquets he attended is beyond stupid. But I suppose that's who El-Sayed and his campaign have been battling, the forces of 'beyond stupid' who teamed up with 'beyond xenophobic'. I almost feel sad for such frightened mentally deluded bigots who spend all day worrying about Muslims taking over America. What pathetic little frightened existences they must live, constantly being in fear of a fiction. Though I suppose it's not that unlike how they were raised to be in constant fear of hellfire.

 
 
 
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2.2.29  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.28    one week ago

That is pretty strong. . .and yet it needs to be stated (by someone). :) :) :)

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.30  CB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.28    one week ago

In a country renounce for its diversity of people, ethnicities, and 'flavors,' these backwards-looking fools come to power are disruptors.

 
 
 
CB
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2.2.31  CB  replied to  CB @2.2.30    one week ago

Department of Oops!

In a country renown for its diversity of people, ethnicities, and. . . . 

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.32  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.14    one week ago

Everyone who is a bigoted asshole deserves to be called out. You have not demonstrated that El-Sayed is one of them. Questioning your evidence for that accusation is not defending bigotry.

self admitted American hating racists who spread kkk level racist conspiracies.

I will leave that to you. You seem more than proficient.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.2.33  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.14    one week ago

[✘] you [✘] object to [✘] criticism of democrats.

I wonder what those x's were..

Makes me wonder just what the hell you were on about. I mean I could fill in those x's and have some fun, but all I really need to do is ask you to establish a factual grounding for your elusive yet apparent claim that he endorses all the views of the people who support him. 

I mean some of Trump's supporters have some pretty racist views, but it probably would not matter because a lot of his supporters have major overlapping arcs in their Venn diagrams...

 
 
 
CB
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3  CB    one week ago

I am understanding that the Jewish vote is going to be something of a mixed bag in Michigan. . . and so it should be. . . may the best 'all around" candidate for senator win in Michigan. As for who people associate themselves with. . .yeah, it is right to point that out. . . and Sayed is right to defend himself too!

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    one week ago

original

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4    one week ago

Repeating the same trick doesn’t make it a better trick. It just makes for a tired pony. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one week ago
Repeating the same trick doesn’t make it a better trick. It just makes for a tired pony. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one week ago
Repeating the same trick doesn’t make it a better trick. It just makes for a tired pony.

How many elections has Trump claimed were rigged?  3, 4?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4    one week ago

So he is an educated socialist.  That doesn't make him good for the country.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2    one week ago

So he is an educated socialist.  That doesn't make him good for the country.

Trump said he is an amazing business man, "the greatest the world has ever seen", and we're over 40 TRLLION in debt...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.1    one week ago
Trump said he is an amazing business man, "the greatest the world has ever seen", and we're over 40 TRLLION in debt...

Well, we haven't finished following Trump's playbook yet. His final move is to just walk away from the debt. That's the big secret 'great financial move' he makes in almost every business dealing he's ever had. He doesn't actually make money. He talks big, makes promises, takes the money from the gullible, hands over the responsibility of delivery to another completely unqualified 3rd party, then walks away with his bag of money as if the job is done and everyone is happy even though there will be decades of lawsuits and bankruptcies that follow in his wake.

And of course, in the case of our debt he promised to bring down, his loyal dumb ass followers apparently don't realize that...

Roughly 76% to 77% of U.S. government debt is owned domestically by U.S. citizens , institutions, the Federal Reserve, state and local governments, and federal trust funds, while foreign entities own about 23% to 24%. How much US government debt is owned by other countries? | USAFacts

Fucking idiots.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.4  CB  replied to    one week ago

You should tell Trump he is NOT on the ballot in Michigan, so he can take his 'racist' and bigoted old tired butt of the rooftop shouting. Because we can hear that old bigot "up there" shouting at the top of his lungs for 28 days already!

It does prove a point: That you can not hear Trump, because his pitch is to the key of MAGA supporters.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.7  Right Down the Center  replied to    one week ago

[✘]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    one week ago

Lets re-elect Trump king of the world and we can all call it a day. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    one week ago

(2 years ago last wednesday)

NEW YORK (AP) —  Donald Trump  hosted a rally featuring crude and racist insults at New York’s Madison Square Garden, turning what his campaign had dubbed as the event where he would deliver his closing message into an illustration of what turns off his critics.

With just over a week before Election Day, speakers at the rally Sunday night labeled Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage,” called Democratic Vice President  Kamala Harris  “the devil,” and said the woman vying to become the first woman and Black woman president had begun her career as a prostitute.

“I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” said Tony Hinchcliffe, a stand-up comic whose set also included lewd and racist comments about Latinos, Jews and Black people, all key constituencies in the election just nine days away.

His joke was immediately criticized by Harris’ campaign as it competes with Trump to  win over Puerto Rican communities  in Pennsylvania and other swing states.  Puerto Rican music superstar Bad Bunny  backed Harris shortly after Hinchcliffe’s appearance.

The normally pugnacious Trump campaign took the rare step of distancing itself from Hinchcliffe. “This joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign,” senior adviser Danielle Alvarez said in a statement.

But other speakers also made incendiary comments. Trump’s childhood friend David Rem referred to Harris as “the Antichrist” and “the devil.” Businessman Grant Cardone told the crowd that Harris ”and her pimp handlers will destroy our country.”

The marquee event reflected the former president’s tone throughout his third White House campaign. Though he refrained from doing so Sunday, Trump often tears into Harris in  offensive and personal terms  himself, questioning in recent weeks her mental stability and her intelligence as well as calling her “lazy,” long a racist trope used against Black people.

The event was a surreal spectacle that included former professional wrestler Hulk Hogan, TV psychologist Dr. Phil McGraw, former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, politicians including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Reps. Byron Donalds and Elise Stefanik, and an artist who painted a picture of Trump hugging the Empire State Building.

And that was all before Trump was to take the stage, running more than two hours late.

After being introduced by his wife,  Melania Trump , in a rare public appearance, the former president began by asking the same questions he’s asked at the start of every recent rally: “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” The crowd responded with a resounding “No!”

“This election is a choice between whether we’ll have four more years of gross incompetence and failure, or whether we’ll begin the greatest years in the history of our country,” he said.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    one week ago

Yes, we all remember the freak out over a comedian. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    one week ago
But other speakers also made incendiary comments. Trump’s childhood friend David Rem referred to Harris as “the Antichrist” and “the devil.” Businessman Grant Cardone told the crowd that Harris ”and her pimp handlers will destroy our country.”

Comedians ?

Maybe El-Sayed was joking when he let a Nation of Islam member appear with him. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    one week ago
be El-Sayed was joking when he let a Nation of Islam member appear with him. 

Do you think he was?

Although it's quite a turn for you to make Trump your arbiter of acceptable behavior. It's been quite a journey from where you started to end up using Trump's actions as your compass.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    one week ago

If you think Trumps friends were joking then El-Sayed was joking. 

You should really think about not seeding from trash like Washington Free Beacon.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.1.5  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    one week ago

I think he was letting the mayor of the town that he was at introduce him

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  seeder  Sean Treacy    one week ago

El-Sayed just can't stop: 

Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, who faces growing opposition from Jewish Democrats, quietly attended a banquet Wednesday night for an Arab-American lobbying group led by Osama Siblani, a notorious Dearborn-based activist who said that Arabs should send Israeli Jews "back to Poland," that Israel's actions in Gaza are "worse than the Holocaust," and that Hamas and Hezbollah are "freedom fighters."

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    one week ago
El-Sayed just can't stop: 

Considering he didn't do anything other than attend a banquet, perhaps his voters can forgive him. No doubt the angry dumb fuck bigots will see a conspiracy everywhere and claim this banquet attendance must prove he has close ties to terrorists and he's just tricking everyone and as soon as he gets into government, he's going to reveal his true colors and laugh like a Bond villain, "Mwahahaha! You all believed me? American Idiots! I will bring sharia law to all! Mwahahaha!".

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The funniest thing out of all of this are the loser xenophobes still screaming about Muslims taking over America. They need to just shut the fuck up and go hide back in their hollars, no one is in danger of Sharia law being imposed in America. Those who believe that kind of laughable horse shit need to have their heads examined.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.1    one week ago
o anything other than attend a banquet, perhaps his voters can forgive him.

Why would they forgive him? They are the same type of  people who voted for a Nazi in Maine.   Wanting Jews to get sent back to Poland is probably on the milder side of their beliefs.

 bt the angry dumb fuck bigots will see a conspiracy everywhere a

True. As soon as Al Sayed's actions get publicized  , they start blaming AIPAC and lashing out against conservatives, just  like El-Sayed does.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    one week ago
They are the same type of  people who voted for a Nazi in Maine.   Wanting Jews to get sent back to Poland is probably on the milder side of their beliefs.

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As soon as Al Sayed's actions get publicized

What actions? Just more loony toons from the xenophobe bed wetters.

"It wasn't me dad! Muslims wet my bed! I swear!"

 
 
 
CB
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6.1.3  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1.1    one week ago

Sean:

1. There are several large 'settlements' of Muslims in this country. . can you point to any one of those settlements that legally operates Sharia Law? Please proceed.

2. The constitution does not permit religiously legal laws in our country. So there goes your claim of any religion taking over this country-definitely not without a 'wholesale' change to the constitution. (No Catholic law, Protestant law, Jewish law or 'satanist law can 'stand' up against civil law.)

Evidently, MAGA supporters have not thought their fearmongering through. . . .  Shame on the Shameless!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    one week ago

Sarah Longwell, the by now fairly well known former Republican never trumper who owns The Bulwark, said in a podcast yesterday that she would vote for El Sayed in a heartbeat, even though she disagrees with him about Israel. 

She knows that the Democrats need to take over the Senate and a Trump rubber stamp bootlicker like Mike Rogers must not get in.  Its that simple. 

I understand that many people object to El Sayed's position on Israel,  and many of such people are very good people,  but we cannot let Trump retain power over Congress for two more years. 

Holding that piece of shit to account asap takes precedence, by a mile. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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7.1  Thomas  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one week ago

Holding that piece of shit to account asap takes precedence, by a mile. 

Yep.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.2  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one week ago

I saw ElSayed speak today and he seemed very charismatic.  He offered to take up Trump's challenge to pass through a metal detector when he enters the Senate but only if Trump took a lie detector test.

“I’ll go through a metal detector every day. You sit through a lie detector one time,” El‑Sayed said. “That’s the deal” The Hill +1 .

He said he had nothing to hide and offered to undergo daily security checks if Trump would agree to sit for a lie detector test once, covering two issues he wanted to address:

  1. Trump’s past association with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein

  2. Trump’s repeated, unsubstantiated claims of winning the 2020 presidential election

He's just another All American boy with big dreams like Barack Hussein Obama, the other guy with a funny name.

 Wannabe comics, all of them.

 
 
 
CB
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7.3  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one week ago

It is what they do. . . they sniff political red blood in the water. . .and "SHARK frenzying is involuntary. Such people are not now and maybe never have been our friends in this country: they actually want to 'own' us politically through hard-suppression!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8  MrFrost    one week ago

512

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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8.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MrFrost @8    one week ago

It really is fascinating and will no doubt be studied by scholars for decades to come. The great con and the millions of hilariously stupid religious conservatives who fell for it. They will study how it grew out of the angry bigoted tea party movement that rose up when America elected its first black President. How 24 hr news began to grow in the early 2000's and feed off tragedy and the Iraq war and started a visible rift in our news consumption between 'mainstream media' aka what's actually happening, and 'rightwing media' which was a peek into a delusional hellscape where Satan was stalking our children using his gay, trans and Muslim minions to try and grab white Christian kids off the streets and the dark corners of the web. These disconnected delusional xenophobic former "heroes" of the world became embittered and angry and coalesced into what is now the MAGA movement supporting a convicted felon and known sexual predator because that's the only guy who would validate their brand of crazy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @8.1    one week ago
They will study how it grew out of the angry bigoted tea party movement that rose up when America elected its first black President.

We have a winner. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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8.2  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @8    one week ago

he's the perfect representative of moronic bible thumping hypocrites ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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9  devangelical    one week ago

jews that support the maga agenda in this election deserve what the christo-fascists have in store for them if trump isn't stopped ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10  seeder  Sean Treacy    one week ago

And for our progressive friends, the slave trade was not controlled by Jews.  In fact at least 30 times more Africans were shipped east to Muslim countries (the men were usually castrated, which is why there aren’t many blacks in the east) than were ever  shipped to North America.  But we all pretend the Muslim slave trade didn’t exist so we can vilify Europeans and now Jews. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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10.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    one week ago
And for our progressive friends, the slave trade was not controlled by Jews.  In fact at least 30 times more Africans were shipped east to Muslim countries (the men were usually castrated, which is why there aren’t many blacks in the east) than were ever  shipped to North America.  But we all pretend the Muslim slave trade didn’t exist so we can vilify Europeans and now Jews.

So the muslim god, like the christian god, was pro slavery.

We'll ignore that they're the same god...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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10.2  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    one week ago
And for our progressive friends, the slave trade was not controlled by Jews.

And for anyone with a decent education and common sense the Trans Saharan and Indian Ocean Slave routes were always described as Arab-Muslim for 1,300 years.

The Jewish trope is as false as dead Democrats voting every election. It was started by a German writer in 1829 and revised by two more German writers in pre war Nazi Germany.

But we all pretend the Muslim slave trade didn’t exist so we can vilify Europeans and now Jews. 

Please just speak for yourself.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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10.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    one week ago
But we all pretend the Muslim slave trade didn’t exist so we can vilify Europeans and now Jews. 

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Who is this "we" you speak of? Of course Muslims had slaves as did the Jews and Europeans.

It's rather humorous to me that some apparently equate wanting to treat American Muslims the same way we treat American Christians means we're somehow promoting Islam or something. To me there are only two groups of religious in America, those who live their faith but don't force it on others, and those who for some deluded reason think themselves in some fucking religious military core where they are at war with Islam or 'the great Satan' American Christians or Israeli Jews, and that everything they do and every global outcome is just part of some religious prophecy so they have to try and force their version of faith on everyone around them. They're so fucking desperate to get validation from everyone around them that they demand to be in charge of everything.

"Hey Bob, sure was lucky we were born in America to Christian parents! Jesus sure does love us!"

"Hey Salam, sure was lucky we were born in Iran to good Muslim parents. Allah sure does love us!"

"Hey Ari, sure was lucky we were born in Israel to Jewish parents! Yahweh sure does love us!"

...then collectively the religious extremists say "Let's go make sure the world knows we're number one!"....

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Fucking criminals the lot of them.

 
 

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