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Nate Silver Discovers the Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

  

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Via:  s  •  4 weeks ago  •  10 comments

Nate Silver Discovers the Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

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When doing a rundown of what his model did and did not show in the weeks before the election, Nate Silver made an observation that deserves to be noticed. 


In a piece about the virtues and vices of his model--it didn't PREDICT the outcome, but the most frequent outcome it spit out turned out to be the final result--Silver inserted what he called a "mini-rant" about the reaction he got from Democrats and Republicans to his ongoing analyses. 


It struck him that Republicans and Democrats took a very different approach to reading and reacting to his newsletters:


Even though our forecast was near 50/50 for almost the whole race, there were certainly periods that were relatively better and worse for Harris and Trump. Our narrative content followed accordingly, with about an even mix of newsletters that presented optimistic cases for   Harris   and   Trump . (That was not true when Joe Biden was running, but that’s because Biden was way behind in the polls.) So I essentially got to perform a randomized control trial on how partisans in both camps reacted to good and bad news.

And there was an asymmetry.   Republicans are generally happy when you agree with them partway or half the time. Admittedly, the sorts of Republicans who encounter our work are not a representative sample, probably being on the moderate side — though you can find plenty of Trump supporters in the Silver Bulletin comments section.

Democrats, however — and here, I’m not referring so much to Silver Bulletin subscribers but in the broader universe online — often get angry with you when you only halfway agree with them. And I really think this difference in personality profiles tells you a little something about why Trump won: Trump was   happy to take on all comers , whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot-button topic (say, COVID school closures or Biden’s age) will have you cast out as a heretic. That’s   not a good way to build a majority , and now Democrats no longer have one.


It's not surprising at all to me for a couple of reasons. 

First, the left is more of an ideological monolith than the right. Conservatives, on the whole, have been the "leave us alone" coalition for decades. I don't want to overplay this because there are plenty of rigid ideologues on the right, but in general, Republicans have a very different view of the relationship between the individual, politics, and the state. 

You rarely hear about conservatives kicking people out of their families because of their politics. There are posts all over the internet about how Harris voters are having a snit fit and turning their back on their families. 

Here is a former Democratic candidate for Senate in Ohio ranting about his aunt: 


My Aunt called asking about Thanksgiving plans

During the conversation she mentioned she voted for Trump

I told her my home is not open to traitors and I would not go to theirs. I have no space in my life for those who could care less about the United States

Shes upset

FAFO

— Rick Taylor (@OhRick4)   November 11, 2024

The funny thing is that the aunt will be better off without having a jerk like that in her life, although I feel sorry for her nonetheless. She has had to deal with a jerk for decades. 

Imagine if he had won a Senate seat. A budding totalitarian. 


My granddad is an old school Democrat voter who doesn’t like Trump.

I just booked a flight and hotel to go see him in Jacksonville, Florida to celebrate his upcoming 92nd birthday in January.

He’s still one of the greatest men I know. I’m still going to love him. I’m still…   pic.twitter.com/rXQ7iYoy2N

— Zeek Arkham (@ZeekArkham)   November 12, 2024


The other big reason, and it is related, is that Republicans have been treated as cultural outcasts for generations now by liberals. The line that "Republicans think Democrats are wrong, and Democrats think Republicans are evil" is absolutely true. Not every Democrat feels that way, but as a general rule, it is accurate. 

Republicans get much less upset when people disagree with us because we have been subject to so much abuse that when somebody wants to have a rational conversation, we jump at the chance. A reasonable moderate or Democrat is a blessing. Even a non-orthodox Democrat is a relief. 


I think Trump or   @elonmusk   are more likely to come on   @TheYoungTurks   than any Democratic leader. We disagree more with Trump and Elon, but they're at least willing to have a conversation. Whereas Democratic leadership thinks it's offensive if you ask them hard questions. They…
— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur)   November 12, 2024

Kamala Harris tried to perform bipartisanship by embracing, of all people, Liz Cheney. Republicans laughed, and Democrats were similarly repelled, although for different reasons. 

Donald Trump, though, attracted some of the best and brightest in the Democratic Party, largely because he embraced them while Democrats did everything they could to exile them from the Party. 

As a result, the Democrats got Bill Kristol, Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney, Rick Wilson, and a rogue's gallery of Republicans who hate Republicans, while the Republicans inherited Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Elon Musk, and some of the best Democrat thinkers out there. 


It's a good trade. 

Silver's direct experience with the closed-mindedness and vitriolic nature of the modern Democratic Party is emblematic of why the Democrats are in the political wilderness. 

The bubble has gotten so small that even hinting that boys are boys and girls are girls will get you canceled. 








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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago
Democrats, however — and here, I’m not referring so much to Silver Bulletin subscribers but in the broader universe online — often get angry with you when you only halfway agree with them. And I really think this difference in personality profiles tells you a little something about why Trump won: Trump was   happy to take on all comers , whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot-button topic (say, COVID school closures or Biden’s age) will have you cast out as a heretic. That’s   not a good way to build a majority , and now Democrats no longer have one.

This fits my experience as well.  In general, there are always exceptions, Republicans tend to be much more tolerant of dissent and disagreement.  In contrast, Democrats will burn someone as a heretic for straying from the party line.  It leads to incredible displays of reality denial by the hive mind.  Biden is fine! There is no crisis at the border! etc etc..

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    4 weeks ago

And we have ample evidence right here, every day.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  seeder  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

An example. Congressman Seth Moulton, a Democrat , made the mistake of offering an opinion in line with 70% of Americans critical of men participating in school sports with girls.

That's heresy.  Tufts university, located in his state went to war. For speaking his mind, the university declared they wouldn't let him recruit staff on campus. It has since backtracked, no doubt after its lawyers figured out the exposure that kind of bias created for the University.  But the instincts to punish heresy are plain to see. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 weeks ago

Another example would be Kerry Kennedy on her brother, RFK Jr:

"I am disgusted by my brother’s obscene embrace of Donald Trump. And I completely disavow and dissociate myself from Robert Kennedy Jr. and his flagrant efforts to desecrate my father's memory."

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    3 weeks ago

The Chair of the Salem Democrats called Congressman Moulton a Nazi cooperator, for saying men shouldn't play in girls sports.

Even the slightest deviation is enough to make you a nazi in the eyes of the pure progressive. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2    3 weeks ago
The Chair of the Salem Democrats called Congressman Moulton a Nazi cooperator, for saying men shouldn't play in girls sports.

Maybe Congressman Moulton knows about German Nazis and their thoughts on girls sports than I do.

 
 
 
George
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3  George    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  George @3    4 weeks ago

Itis hard to understand why so many supposedly intelligent and educated left wingers think and act like mindless and obedient sheep.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    4 weeks ago

Educated and intelligent are not necessarily synonymous.

We seem to be "educating" everyone with the necessary tuition.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  seeder  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

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So Kamala bailed on Rogan because she was afraid progressives would be mad at her simply for talking to him.  Literally feared blowback for stepping outside the progressive bubble.

 
 

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